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ADOPTED RUSSIAN BOY REJECTED, IN SELF DEFENSE

 
 
Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:04 am
Two nations are in an uproar over an American woman who
returned her adopted son to his native Russia as though he was
a defective item to be shipped back to a department store.

Seemingly happily matched at a Siberian orphanage last year,
authorities were stunned to find that Torry-Ann Hansen of Tennessee
sent her adopted 7-year-old son Artem Saveliev back home
to Russia by himself with a note demanding the adoption be
annulled, the U.K. Daily Mail reports.

The pale sandy-haired boy got off the plane in Moscow
with no idea [ ?? ] why he had been sent back.
[HIS REPEATEDLY TREATENING TO BURN DOWN THE HOUSE
and STARTING FIRES, MAY HAVE HAD
SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. David]


According to the letter he had in his hand, Mrs. Hansen accused
the orphanage of lying to her about Artem’s mental condition and
cared only about finding someone to adopt him.

“He is violent and has severe psychopathic issues/behaviors,” she wrote.
“After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the safety of my family,
friends and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child.”


The Russians deny her claims, admitting that the boy was stubborn
but that his only disability was that he was "flat-footed."
Officials say they are appalled that a woman would take a child
all the way from Siberia to Tennessee, promise him a new life,
change his last name to hers, only to change her mind and ship him back.

Authorities are investigating how American immigration allowed
the child to fly alone. They believe Mrs. Hansen may have paid
a man to meet the child at the airport and put him on a plane to Russia.

The officials who had supervised the adoption were stunned,
according to the Daily Mail. They told the paper that Mrs. Hansen
spent four full days with Artem under the eye of adoption workers
before she was allowed to adopt him.
"It was clear that there was mutual affection, and it was good,"
said Vera Kuznetsova, the chief adoption officer in the region told the Daily Mail.
Mrs. Hansen’s actions may put the kibosh on future Americans adoptions in Russia for a long time.
"We have taken the decision ... to suggest a freeze on any
adoptions to American families until Russia and the USA sign an
international agreement" on the conditions for adoptions and the
obligations of host families, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was quoted as saying.
While the authorities and diplomats attempt to sort out the mess
of Artem’s citizenship and custody, he will be sent back into state care.
U.S. ambassador to Russia, John Beyrle, said he was "deeply
shocked by the news" and "very angry that any family would act
so callously toward a child that they had legally adopted."
The child's real mother was deprived of her parental rights
because she was an alcoholic, officials said.


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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I saw that item, David. Never know who to believe in such a situation. Perhaps the lady in question should have offered to be a foster parent first, and then had treatment for the sad little boy with obvious problems.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:14 am
@OmSigDAVID,
pretty cowardly way to go about it

he's not a defective product that needs to be mailed back to the supplier, he's till a human being
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:17 am
And something else is weird about this story, most news outlets were reporting that since about 1998 more than fifteen Russian adoptees have been killed by their American parents. That seems like a lot even for Americans.

Joe(wasn't there anyone for the family to turn to?)Nation
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:50 am
@Letty,
Letty wrote:
I saw that item, David. Never know who to believe in such a situation.
Perhaps the lady in question should have offered to be a foster parent first, and then had treatment for the sad little boy with obvious problems.
Well, more than being sad,
the question is of his being a pyromaniac.

I saw an article a day or 2 ago, indicating
that he had repeatedly threatened to burn down the house,
drew pictures of the house going up in flames
and that he had started fires.

I was hoping to post that article,
but I have not yet been able to find it.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:56 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
pretty cowardly way to go about it

he's not a defective product that needs to be mailed back to the supplier, he's till a human being
BALONEY! Despite the fact that he is a human pyromanic, he really IS the same in principle
as a defective product that the host needs to mail back to the supplier; fast! ASAP, before it is too late!
Maybe if he tried to burn YOUR house down, djjd . . .
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 06:58 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:

And something else is weird about this story, most news outlets were reporting that since
about 1998 more than fifteen Russian adoptees have been killed by their American parents.
That seems like a lot even for Americans.

Joe(wasn't there anyone for the family to turn to?)Nation
The Fire Dept. ?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 07:21 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
fast! ASAP, before it is too late!
Maybe if he tried to burn YOUR house down, djjd . . .


Once you adopt a child it is the same as having him yourself and you deal with his problems period and end of subject.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 07:30 am
parents can adopt children
parents can divorce children (apparently ??)
children can divorce parents
children can adopt parents ?? (perhaps one day)
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 07:42 am
Quote:
Speaking to Artyom in both Russian and English, Mr. Astakhov asked him about his adoptive mother. Artyom said she was “bad.”

“Did she hit you?” Mr. Astakhov asked.

Artyom said no, but he then motioned to show that she had pulled his hair.

“Did you cry?” Mr. Astakhov asked.

“Yes,” Artyom said.

“You are a man, you shouldn’t cry,” Mr. Astakhov said.


Oh, yeah...he's in a better place now.
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@David:
One would think that a nation claiming to have the best healthcare system in the world would be able to provide counseling for a seven year old child and his adoptive parents.

Nu?
Joe(Nyet?)Nation
saab
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 07:58 am
I read some place that the adoptive mother is single and has a biological son already. The two boys got along well.
I would think that the boy would have had a greater chance to get profesional help in USA than in Russia.
Poor kid. The mother sure did something very wrong. You just don´t return a child when adopted. The way she did it is just pure cruelty.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 08:03 am
@saab,
Lets look at the reverse of this. What if the cruel bitch had of kept him ? She clearly doesnt care about him.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 08:20 am
@saab,
I think she should be looking at some serious jail time just to start with.

Hell if I even dump one of my pets off along the roadway, I am breaking the law against animal abandonment in my state.

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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 08:31 am
Perhaps they should look at if her child is in capable hands.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 08:54 am
@Ionus,
She should be looking at jail time of a year of more so the care of her natural child could be folded into that situation.
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csantiba
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 08:55 am
@BillRM,
BillRM

I'm in agreement with you. Since she adopted him it was supposed because she loved him and he would be her SON. What kind of love is rejecting a son like a disposable product? This news dissapoints me a lot.

Claudia
saab
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 09:00 am
@Ionus,
There are a lot of cruel mothers and biological children have to stay in the family often even if it has been reported to the authorities.
At least she should have given him up within USA and not sent him back to Russia. His future would have been better in USA.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 09:07 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:
Quote:
Speaking to Artyom in both Russian and English, Mr. Astakhov asked him about his adoptive mother. Artyom said she was “bad.”

“Did she hit you?” Mr. Astakhov asked.

Artyom said no, but he then motioned to show that she had pulled his hair.

“Did you cry?” Mr. Astakhov asked.

“Yes,” Artyom said.

“You are a man, you shouldn’t cry,” Mr. Astakhov said.


Oh, yeah...he's in a better place now.
I 'm SURE that his ex-mother thinks so.



Joe Nation wrote:

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@David:
One would think that a nation claiming to have the best healthcare system in the world
would be able to provide counseling for a seven year old child and his adoptive parents.

Nu?
Joe(Nyet?)Nation
1. I have no opinion qua which nation has the best healthcare system in the world
for lack of sufficient information and analysis.

2. Tho I am aware of the possibility that counselling of itself, without more
can be sufficient to cure in SOME instances,
I cannot venture to guess whether that is sufficient
to arrest the inflamatory practices of pyromaniacs.
In some cases, drugs have been necessary to effect
cures; in other cases, no cure has been possible with currently available technology.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 09:10 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
Lets look at the reverse of this.
What if the cruel bitch had of kept him ? She clearly doesnt care about him.
In a defensive situation,
one focuses his attention egocentrically, not altruistically.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 09:13 am
@csantiba,
csantiba wrote:
BillRM

I'm in agreement with you. Since she adopted him it was supposed because she loved him and he would be her SON.
What kind of love is rejecting a son like a disposable product? This news dissapoints me a lot.

Claudia
Not even a biological son is tolerable
when he turns his attentions and intentions to malice against his benefactor.

WELCOME to the forum, Claudia!





David
 

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