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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2012 09:29 am

Accomplices in a campaign to annihilate a UN member
By Shlomo Slonim, Jerusalem Post, November 28, 2012

Any state supporting the Palestinian application in the General Assembly before a peace settlement has been attained between the parties violates the principles of the UN Charter and, wittingly or not, effectively supports a genocidal design for the destruction of a member state.

Israelis are frequently asked: Why is Israel opposed to recognizing a Palestinian state? Detach yourselves from the Palestinians like the French detached themselves from Algeria and the two states will live in peace with each other as was originally envisaged under the 1947 Partition Resolution. In response, the Israelis ask two questions, one of which answers the other: 1) Why have the Palestinians waited for 65 years to establish an independent state? 2) In the Algerian struggle for independence, were the Algerians proclaiming that they were bent on occupying and destroying France?

For over 60 years, the leaders of the Arab population of Mandatory Palestine rejected every suggestion that they proclaim an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel as envisaged under the 1947 General Assembly Partition Resolution. Instead, the Palestinian Arab leaders committed themselves to destroying the Jewish state and invited neighboring Arab states to join them in the act of annihilation.

Well before Israel came into control of the remaining territory of the Mandate, the PLO, a terrorist organization, was created in 1964 with the goal of wiping Israel off the map. Hamas, of course, still proclaims this aim openly. The question therefore arises—what has prompted Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority, to take a step the Palestinians have spurned for over six decades? Why is he now pushing to have the General Assembly accord the Palestinians the status of non-member observer state?

Abbas, it is clear, has simply shifted gears and has adopted a strategy different from that of Hamas to achieve the same goal. The diplomatic route is, for him, simply a case of war by other means. It is a two-step strategy: The first diplomatic warfare target is Israel's presence in the territories that came under Israeli rule in 1967 and whose final status and borders are legally still to be determined. Contrary to some unfounded popular assumptions, Security Council Resolution 242—and even the Oslo accords—left the matter to future determination, and Israeli settlements are premised on strong legal, historic and strategic grounds.

Nevertheless, over the years, and in various forums and the media, the "colonial" nature of Israel's presence in the territories is taken as a given. Since many of Israel's supporters inside and outside Israel are critical of the "settlements," this theme can evoke more support than an immediate frontal attack on Israel's existence as the homeland of the Jewish people.

Once a Palestinian state with pre-1967 borders—including part of Jerusalem—is not only proclaimed, but endorsed by international bodies dominated by automatic majorities, Israel's presence in the territories is further delegitimized and its self-defensive measures can be discredited. Israel could then be charged with occupying the territory of a foreign state.

Lawfare, involving the hijacking of the international human rights apparatus, could proceed apace, with Israel being targeted for war crimes and sundry human rights abuses. Attempts to apply boycotts and sanctions would then presumably multiply exponentially. The aim would be to galvanize as many international institutions as possible to stamp Israel as an illegal entity.

Abbas' goal, it seems clear, is not to create a Palestinian state living peacefully side by side with Israel, but to replace Israel. The problematic nature of his present démarches can be readily seen if one takes into account the following:

1) Abbas refuses to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish state, since that would be to recognize Israel's rights in the Land of Israel. He is prepared to accept the presence of two states in Mandatory Palestine, but both would be Palestinian. So long as he refuses to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, his intentions are blatantly directed to replacing that state with some other entity.

2) Jewish links to the Land of Israel are consistently and unabashedly denied. Most blatantly, he asserts for example that Israel has no historical attachment to Jerusalem and the Western Wall as the remnants of the Temple. It is all but a figment of the imagination.

3) In his New York Times op-ed last year, he explained candidly that his quest for UN membership for Palestine was linked to lawfare.

"Palestine's admission to the United Nations," he said, "would pave the way for the internationalization of the conflict as a legal matter, not only as a political one. It would also pave the way for us to pursue claims against Israel at the United Nations, human rights treaty bodies and the International Criminal Court."

4) Despite recent murmurings, later denied, Abbas has not disassociated himself from insistence on the "right of return" for Palestinian refugees (claimed by now to be some seven million people). This "right" is a euphemism for annihilating the Jewish state. As Nasser acknowledged in 1961: "If the refugees return to Israel, Israel will cease to exist."

5) He continues to complain that Palestinians have suffered "under occupation for 63 years"—since Israel's creation, not since 1967—confirming that he is not content with a Palestinian state alongside Israel, but that the very existence of Israel represents "occupation" of Palestinian land. This credo lies at the root of Abbas' strategy.

6) Abbas' lack of integrity is reflected in his failure to retract his doctoral dissertation, completed at Moscow University, that is devoted to denying that the Holocaust ever occurred. He has never apologized to the Jewish people for such a gross distortion of the historical record.

7) Abbas and the PA that he heads have regularly glorified terrorists, including suicide bombers, who have ruthlessly murdered and maimed countless Israeli men, women and children.

In sum, the present Palestinian bid for General Assembly acceptance of Palestine as a nonmember observer state in the UN is part of a process of bringing about the replacement of Israel with a Palestinian state extending from the coast to the Jordan River. This maneuver patently violates United Nations law and international law.

According to Article 2(1) of the UN Charter: "the Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members."

Under Article 2(4), all UN members have pledged to refrain from the threat or use of force "against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state."

A scheme to replace Israel with a Palestinian state from the coast to the Jordan is a clear violation of the Charter. Any state supporting the Palestinian application in the General Assembly before a peace settlement has been attained between the parties violates the principles of the UN Charter and, wittingly or not, effectively supports a genocidal design for the destruction of a member state.

The writer is a professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the author of "Jerusalem in America's Foreign Policy."

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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2012 04:34 pm
This forum is crawling with anti-Zionists, in my opinion. A posting like this is just an exercise in futility, again in my opinion. The anti-Zionists today believe the need for Israel has dissipated with time, and therefore they have the high moral ground, based on Israel not folding their collective tent and assimilating into a secular world. Again in my opinion.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2012 04:58 pm
Accomplices in Destroying UN Member

just one?

we should destroy them all, after first letting everyone in
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2012 05:57 pm
Advi, in his best imitation of BumbleBeeBoogie, copied and pasted a harangue by Shlomo Slonim, who wrote:
Any state supporting the Palestinian application in the General Assembly before a peace settlement has been attained between the parties violates the principles of the UN Charter and, wittingly or not, effectively supports a genocidal design for the destruction of a member state.


Geez, yet another pitiful example of why the Zionists are in need of a series of enormous group therapy sessions instead of a discriminatory and oppressive ethnocentric state, equating the Zionists’ legal and moral obligations towards the Palestinian peoples with genocide.

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Israelis are frequently asked: Why is Israel opposed to recognizing a Palestinian state? Detach yourselves from the Palestinians like the French detached themselves from Algeria and the two states will live in peace with each other as was originally envisaged under the 1947 Partition Resolution. In response, the Israelis ask two questions, one of which answers the other: 1) Why have the Palestinians waited for 65 years to establish an independent state? 2) In the Algerian struggle for independence, were the Algerians proclaiming that they were bent on occupying and destroying France?

This is an inept analogy seeing as how France does not border Algeria, unless one counts the Mediterranean Sea as a border. What’s more, the Zionists went from Europe and established their state in Palestine on land that they appropriated with the abetment of Great Britain. There was no “Israel” to compare to France. More precisely, the Zionists arrogated Palestine, and then told the Palestinians—who are the indigenous inhabitants, what’s more!—“you can have some of it, with caveats, however.” What unabashed brass.


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For over 60 years, the leaders of the Arab population of Mandatory Palestine rejected every suggestion that they proclaim an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel as envisaged under the 1947 General Assembly Partition Resolution. Instead, the Palestinian Arab leaders committed themselves to destroying the Jewish state and invited neighboring Arab states to join them in the act of annihilation.

Well before Israel came into control of the remaining territory of the Mandate, the PLO, a terrorist organization, was created in 1964 with the goal of wiping Israel off the map. Hamas, of course, still proclaims this aim openly. The question therefore arises—what has prompted Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority, to take a step the Palestinians have spurned for over six decades? Why is he now pushing to have the General Assembly accord the Palestinians the status of non-member observer state?

Israel, a state that, in order to survive, must necessarily discriminate and oppress an entire people because they are not Jewish, must absolutely be annihilated and replaced with a truly democratic, egalitarian and pluralistic state that exists of, by and for all of the peoples of Palestine.


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Abbas, it is clear, has simply shifted gears and has adopted a strategy different from that of Hamas to achieve the same goal. The diplomatic route is, for him, simply a case of war by other means. It is a two-step strategy: The first diplomatic warfare target is Israel's presence in the territories that came under Israeli rule in 1967 and whose final status and borders are legally still to be determined. Contrary to some unfounded popular assumptions, Security Council Resolution 242—and even the Oslo accords—left the matter to future determination, and Israeli settlements are premised on strong legal, historic and strategic grounds.
Nevertheless, over the years, and in various forums and the media, the "colonial" nature of Israel's presence in the territories is taken as a given. Since many of Israel's supporters inside and outside Israel are critical of the "settlements," this theme can evoke more support than an immediate frontal attack on Israel's existence as the homeland of the Jewish people.

Every argument aside from the replacement of the repressive Zionist state with a truly democratic one is a moot argument, especially when they are based on self-serving interpretations of international resolutions, and preposterous assertions based on religious mythologies of gods giving land to chosen peoples that only perpetuate the status quo.



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Once a Palestinian state with pre-1967 borders—including part of Jerusalem—is not only proclaimed, but endorsed by international bodies dominated by automatic majorities, Israel's presence in the territories is further delegitimized and its self-defensive measures can be discredited. Israel could then be charged with occupying the territory of a foreign state.
Lawfare, involving the hijacking of the international human rights apparatus, could proceed apace, with Israel being targeted for war crimes and sundry human rights abuses. Attempts to apply boycotts and sanctions would then presumably multiply exponentially. The aim would be to galvanize as many international institutions as possible to stamp Israel as an illegal entity.
Abbas' goal, it seems clear, is not to create a Palestinian state living peacefully side by side with Israel, but to replace Israel. The problematic nature of his present démarches can be readily seen if one takes into account the following:

1) Abbas refuses to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish state, since that would be to recognize Israel's rights in the Land of Israel. He is prepared to accept the presence of two states in Mandatory Palestine, but both would be Palestinian. So long as he refuses to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, his intentions are blatantly directed to replacing that state with some other entity.

That seems a better alternative, by far, than to resort to outright violence to end the existence of the extremist Zionist state, and risk having extremists of another bent take over.





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2) Jewish links to the Land of Israel are consistently and unabashedly denied. Most blatantly, he asserts for example that Israel has no historical attachment to Jerusalem and the Western Wall as the remnants of the Temple. It is all but a figment of the imagination.

The denials that have proven to be more deleterious to the entire peace process is the Zionists’ refusal to acknowledge the Palestinians’ links to Palestine, or as Shlomo mystically refers to as “the Land of Israel.”

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3) In his New York Times op-ed last year, he explained candidly that his quest for UN membership for Palestine was linked to lawfare.

"Palestine's admission to the United Nations," he said, "would pave the way for the internationalization of the conflict as a legal matter, not only as a political one. It would also pave the way for us to pursue claims against Israel at the United Nations, human rights treaty bodies and the International Criminal Court."

4) Despite recent murmurings, later denied, Abbas has not disassociated himself from insistence on the "right of return" for Palestinian refugees (claimed by now to be some seven million people). This "right" is a euphemism for annihilating the Jewish state. As Nasser acknowledged in 1961: "If the refugees return to Israel, Israel will cease to exist."

5) He continues to complain that Palestinians have suffered "under occupation for 63 years"—since Israel's creation, not since 1967—confirming that he is not content with a Palestinian state alongside Israel, but that the very existence of Israel represents "occupation" of Palestinian land. This credo lies at the root of Abbas' strategy.

Again, in ending the existence of the necessarily repressive Zionist regime, this is a much better alternative than violence.

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6) Abbas' lack of integrity is reflected in his failure to retract his doctoral dissertation, completed at Moscow University, that is devoted to denying that the Holocaust ever occurred. He has never apologized to the Jewish people for such a gross distortion of the historical record.


Not that this fraudulent red herring has any bearing on the Zionists’ repression of the Palestinians, but in an interview with Haaretz Abbas said, “I wrote in detail about the Holocaust and said I did not want to discuss numbers. I quoted an argument between historians in which various numbers of casualties were mentioned. One wrote there were twelve million victims and another wrote there were 800,000. I have no desire to argue with the figures. The Holocaust was a terrible, unforgivable crime against the Jewish nation, a crime against humanity that cannot be accepted by humankind. The Holocaust was a terrible thing and nobody can claim I denied it.”

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7) Abbas and the PA that he heads have regularly glorified terrorists, including suicide bombers, who have ruthlessly murdered and maimed countless Israeli men, women and children.

This is no different from the Zionists celebrating and glorifying their own terrorists, like the state sponsored funeral of Yitzhak Shamir, who was the leader of the Zionist terrorist group LEHI, and even naming public buildings and institutions after them, like the Menachem Begin (who led the Zionist terrorist group, Irgun) Heritage Center.

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In sum, the present Palestinian bid for General Assembly acceptance of Palestine as a nonmember observer state in the UN is part of a process of bringing about the replacement of Israel with a Palestinian state extending from the coast to the Jordan River. This maneuver patently violates United Nations law and international law.

According to Article 2(1) of the UN Charter: "the Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members."

Under Article 2(4), all UN members have pledged to refrain from the threat or use of force "against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state."

A scheme to replace Israel with a Palestinian state from the coast to the Jordan is a clear violation of the Charter. Any state supporting the Palestinian application in the General Assembly before a peace settlement has been attained between the parties violates the principles of the UN Charter and, wittingly or not, effectively supports a genocidal design for the destruction of a member state.


What violates the UN Charter is Israel’s refusal to recognize the Palestinians’ rights as defined by a multitude of UN resolutions starting with UN resolution 181 which, ironically, Israel holds up as its international legal sanction.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2012 10:58 pm
@Advocate,
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Once a Palestinian state with pre-1967 borders—including part of Jerusalem—is not only proclaimed, but endorsed by international bodies dominated by automatic majorities, Israel's presence in the territories is further delegitimized and its self-defensive measures can be discredited. Israel could then be charged with occupying the territory of a foreign state.

Lawfare, involving the hijacking of the international human rights apparatus, could proceed apace, with Israel being targeted for war crimes and sundry human rights abuses. Attempts to apply boycotts and sanctions would then presumably multiply exponentially. The aim would be to galvanize as many international institutions as possible to stamp Israel as an illegal entity.


That is the Palestinians' fantasy, but fortunately it is entirely fantasy.

Occupying the territory of a foreign state is not a crime. It is an act of war, certainly, but hardly a crime.

The UN may be able to recognize a government, but it has no say over the borders of that government. If Israel annexes everything west of the Separation Fence, the UN can't do a thing about it.

And the UN's unilateral recognition of the Palestinians invalidates the Oslo Accords, freeing up Israel to make their own unilateral acts.

As for burying Israel under a mountain of spurious war crimes allegations, ICC judges are not interested in becoming the Palestinians' weapon of injustice. They will throw all those false charges out of court.

The biggest "real" change that will come about from Palestinian access to the ICC, will be that Israel will have the option to start bundling Palestinians off to the ICC to serve long sentences for terrorism.
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2012 02:55 pm
@oralloy,
Excellent post!!!!!!!!! Thanks!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2012 03:09 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

As for burying Israel under a mountain of spurious war crimes allegations, ICC judges are not interested in becoming the Palestinians' weapon of injustice. They will throw all those false charges out of court.

The biggest "real" change that will come about from Palestinian access to the ICC, will be that Israel will have the option to start bundling Palestinians off to the ICC to serve long sentences for terrorism.
I can understand that someone whose only legal knowledge is the system of vigilante justice, doesn't understand how the ICC works.
But a look at their website and some information about the Rome Statute could be helpful.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2012 07:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
As for burying Israel under a mountain of spurious war crimes allegations, ICC judges are not interested in becoming the Palestinians' weapon of injustice. They will throw all those false charges out of court.

The biggest "real" change that will come about from Palestinian access to the ICC, will be that Israel will have the option to start bundling Palestinians off to the ICC to serve long sentences for terrorism.


I can understand that someone whose only legal knowledge is the system of vigilante justice, doesn't understand how the ICC works.
But a look at their website and some information about the Rome Statute could be helpful.


I've never heard about the system of vigilante justice. What is this system?

I already understand how the ICC works however.

Trust me, the ICC is not going to be interested in prosecuting innocent Israelis for trumped up crimes. But they'll be willing to prosecute real criminals like the Palestinians.
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