@okie,
okie wrote:
It will be a longer night if the Democrat trails badly, so that ACORN can find more votes.
I'm counting on it okie.. I bought Coakly at 17 today on intrade. Not a bad return, it pays 100 on the win you seem to think will happen.
Odds are already changing and Coakly is moving up before ACORN has even had a chance to count a single vote.
(I wonder who told okie that Acorn counts votes in MA? Hannity perhaps?)
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:
I find your overuse of the word "justifiable" amusing.
You are also confusing predicting the future (which is, as you say, difficult) with predicing the past (which is not so difficult).
There is a strong scientific consensus that there is now measurable global warming. There is a just as strong scientific consensus that this global warming which has happened is caused in significant part by human activity. (I don't know if you accept either of these facts, but they are both widely accepted across the scientific community).
In my understanding... it is the predictions about what this means for the future that have uncertainty.
But... let's get back on topic.
I agree with all that. The consensus in fact states that there is a likelihood that the observed 0.5deg C warming in the last century is partly the result of manmade GHG emissions. That however is a very far cry from the catastrophe scenarios regarding ice melts; runaway warming; and disrupted thermohaline currents; etc used to irrationally justify the forced dislocation of about 20% of the world's economic capacity. THAT is indeed based on unjustifiable predictions.
I do take note of your use of the argument from authority.
@georgeob1,
Quote:That however is a very far cry from the catastrophe scenarios regarding ice melts; runaway warming; and disrupted thermohaline currents; etc used to irrationally justify the forced dislocation of about 20% of the world's economic capacity. THAT is indeed based on unjustifiable predictions.
Boy, I would hate to see you judge Cheney's 1% doctrine as justification for going into Iraq.
@georgeob1,
It is never irrational to be conservative with our spaceship's life support system. Never.
In fact, the opposite is true: the radical notion that we
need not concern ourselves with the viability of our life support system is irrational in the extreme.
Cycloptichorn
@Cycloptichorn,
InTrade has crashed... it happened just after the polls closed.
I wonder what that means lol.
((The early results look good to me))
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:
InTrade has crashed... it happened just after the polls closed.
I wonder what that means lol.
((The early results look good to me))
Yeah, I was just trying to go there meself!
Cycloptichorn
Ray Flynn, former Boston mayor and life-long Democrat just said on the radio that he voted for Scott Brown.
I have been following a blog by Karen Tumulty of Time who cites an article from another journalist posted at 5:30 pm about "recriminations start before the polls close."
Highlights:
President Obama is "surprised and frustrated" by close race.
Spokesman Robt Gibbs says Coakley should have alerted them earlier re status of race.
A Coakley political memo blames national Dems for not getting involved "until much too late and says her poor showing is attributable to issues like health care and the war in Afghan.
A senior Dem official calls her campaign "...the worst debacle in American political history," and doubles down with "...the worst case of political malpractice in history."
@realjohnboy,
Sounds like the finger pointing is in full swing.
Brown has a 5+% lead with 36% of the precincts reporting.
didn't martha coakley die about 35 years ago, i heard she was killed by a kennedy cousin
Ted must be spinning in his grave.
Not looking great for Coakley...
Cycloptichorn
@realjohnboy,
I saw Gibbs, too. Surprised, frustrated and 'not pleased' is how he described Obama.
I'm not sure who I want to win. From what I read I don't like the democrat. I don't excoriate the republican (but as in cell pathology, one looks at the company a blast keeps... but that can go both ways). It is possible I'd pick Brown, but I'd have to figure if that was about personality.
I don't know re what I want with the health care bill. I'm for single payer as a start. Is something better than nothing? I'm not sure. It seems to me there is a whole lot of infrastructure in the way of sanity.
At the same time I say that, I can see the points Atul Gawunde made, re market placement and wise choices , and not single payer, or single payer plus. No links, I've given them a few times before.
Radio news: Brown is even leading in Coakley's home county.
Some early results from places I was told to watch. But I don't know what I am looking for.
Cambridge 88% to 11 % Coakley
Lowell 66% to 32%
Newton 68% to 32%
Boston 59% to 40% (where I was told to watch "white areas").
I reckon these-at least the 1st 3-are heavily Dem where Coakley HAS to do well.
65% reporting, Brown leads by 7.
@realjohnboy,
6% overall lead for Brown with 63% of the precincts reporting. That's an awful big gap to make up with nearly 2/3 of the votes in.
@JPB,
JPB wrote:
6% overall lead for Brown with 63% of the precincts reporting. That's an awful big gap to make up with nearly 2/3 of the votes in.
2/3rds of the precincts reporting, not the votes in. So it's a little better.
But I don't think that Coak is gonna win anyway.
Cycloptichorn
