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Another reason why I'm against capital punishment

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:10 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
My opinion is only my opinion. BUT - Your opinion carries no more weight.
And you can cut and paste all the horror stories you like -
It doesn't alter the fact that the death penalty is out of place.
Lemme put it this way:
the actor called Mr. T has never been my ideal,
but during an interview, he once mentioned that his mother
fell victim to a mugger (assault & robbery). She identified the culprit:
one of their neighbors. Mr. T said that he and his brothers
went and found him, because he had put his hands on their mother.
That did not sit well with them.
When asked whether thay had killed him,
he declined to reply, except to say that: "you won 't see him no more."

If I were on a criminal jury in a homicide trial
to whom similar facts were presented,
I 'd vote and argue to acquit defendant. He did an honorable thing.

(Note my agreement with Bill, qua raping and burying alive 9 year old girls.)



David
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:12 pm
(fingers in ears) I can't hear you. La la la la la la la la la la la la la -
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:13 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Probably the same way you did, except with a bit of humanity included.
This is the humanity that excludes the victim and their family and friends ? That is your main drive isnt it ? To punish others whilst pretending to be magnaminous ? Deep down you think you are a murderer and you dont want to die.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:22 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
You have zero moral right to determine that the death penalty should be enacted, ever.
OK, Ed; whatayathink of this, in theory:
a politically correct person rapes and murders
Joe Blow 's mom and his little child;
then he mortally wounds Joe (who was a witness)
in whose final moments of Earthly life,
Joe shoots and kills the bad guy.

According to Ed: was Joe Blow in error ?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:24 pm
@edgarblythe,
Probably the same way you did, except with a bit of humanity included
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Humanity direct at the little girl and her family who was raped and bury alive or the monster in human form that did this deed?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:27 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
(fingers in ears) I can't hear you. La la la la la la la la la la la la la -
Thats a very strange response. It makes me think you have your position so you will get respect of other lefties, and when confronted with a lack of praise you cant handle it.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:29 pm
There is a physical limit beyond which we as a society will not support life. Why isnt there a psychological or mental limit ?
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fresco
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 04:57 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID,

Your logic is faulty. Personal revenge comes under a different category to "state execution".
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:03 pm
@fresco,
fresco wrote:

OmSigDAVID,

Your logic is faulty. Personal revenge comes under a different category to "state execution".
Will u explain your reasoning ?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:04 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Quote:
(fingers in ears) I can't hear you. La la la la la la la la la la la la la -
Thats a very strange response. It makes me think you have your position so you will get respect of other lefties,
and when confronted with a lack of praise you cant handle it.
I think that response was a FIRST for Ed.
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fresco
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:19 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
"The state" has different moral reponsibilities to "the individual", one of which is to outlaw the purposeful taking of life. The state also has an obligation to prevent individuals taking the law into their own hands. Those who argue against the death penalty do so on the basis that it violates the first obligation, and those who support it argue that it assists the second obligation. In general, the first obligation logically takes precedence since there are alternative sentences to support the second.
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:28 pm
@fresco,
EDIT TIMED OUT.....please delete the word "moral" in line one above.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:29 pm
@Ionus,
You people always try to make someone feel guilty about the victims. They will remain victims whether or not justice gets dispensed. Nothing will return a lost loved one. By convicting the guilty and removing them from society, we do all we can do for the victims. The death penalty is used as an excuse on their behalf. It is a bogus reason, fed by people with vindictive personalities. Putting them away forever is the only reasonable response. That way, when - not if - we make mistakes they can be corrected. By telling me I don't care about the victims, you are seeking to bully my opinion. I am not about to give in to such heavy-handed persuasion.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Too stupid to merit response.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:30 pm
@BillRM,
Anybody can recite horror stories. It changes nothing.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:31 pm
@Ionus,
Shows how wrong you can be, dude.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:40 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
You people always try to make someone feel guilty about the victims.
It has nothing to do with guilt. It has to do with natural instincts for revenge (based on survival) and sympathy for the victims. It is interesting that you chose the word guilt.
Quote:
They will remain victims whether or not justice gets dispensed.
Are you saying why bother with justice ? Perhaps you are saying justice does nothing to prevent the feeling of helplessness victims families have, or their rage at being treated like they are worthless, first by the criminal and then by the do-gooders, by why should the state treat them that way ?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:47 pm
@Ionus,
Do you always select only the words that suit you out of a post? It's easy to twist my meaning when you conveniently cut out what I said and insert your own words. Of course then you end with a monolog. Why don't I just sit out the next round and observe as you answer for me again.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:49 pm
@edgarblythe,
I welcome you to point out what you meant. I have not inserted my own words. If I am in error of quoting you, show me. If I have gone the wrong way with your intent, explain it to me.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 05:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Too stupid to merit response.
Anyone can call anyone else stupid, Ed.
I can do it to u, but I enjoy the fact that I can do BETTER than that. So I don 't lower myself to it.
 

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