20
   

Amanda Knox

 
 
wandeljw
 
  2  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 11:31 am
Nina Burleigh, a reporter who covered the trials of Amanda Knox, was interviewed for the University of Chicago magazine. Below is an excerpt from the interview:

Quote:
Why did the Italian press coverage seem so one-sided?
Italy is only 49th in press freedom in the world, and I came to understand what that meant. The judiciary doesn’t have a public face, so, for example, reporters just get information from favored lawyers, or the other way around: lawyers give favored reporters information. They just print this stuff as fact. There’s no official comment about what’s going on, so no one ever corrects things that lawyers say, that advance their narrative, their point of view.

Did you think Knox was guilty?
When I went over there, I basically thought she was guilty as charged. … After about a month of reviewing documents—the actual case record was available—and beginning to interview various lawyers and the prosecutor himself, I realized that almost everything I had been reading wasn’t true, or it wasn’t actually in the case record.

How did that happen?
It was really a case built on the sense that the police and the prosecutors had that there was just something wrong with this young woman. And they couldn’t put their finger on it. Part of it was the mistranslation, the clash of cultures and the way that young women are expected to behave here and there. She was a soccer player from age 8, and she’s into yoga, and she’s from Seattle, and she has no physical boundaries, in a way. She’s not formal—she’s totally informal—in this country where the bella figura is the be-all and the end-all, the thing that people judge you by. So she’d do things like break into a downward dog whenever she needed to stretch, and she was doing this in the police station. And in Italy, young girls don’t play soccer, that’s for sure, and they don’t exercise in public.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:58 pm
@wandeljw,
Quote:
When I went over there, I basically thought she was guilty as charged.


That's a common theme that I hear a lot. But I have to admit that I cannot begin to comprehend how anyone could think like that.

When I started looking into the case (I did not hear of it until the December 2009 conviction), my mindset was "I have no idea whether they are guilty or innocent". This mindset of "presuming someone is guilty before I learn the facts" -- it's just alien to me.

That said, at least these people bothered to learn the facts and adjust their views accordingly.
wandeljw
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 01:03 pm
@oralloy,
I first heard about the case in 2008 from sensationalistic news accounts. I assumed from the news accounts that Knox and Sollecito were guilty. I slowly reversed my opinion by reading a variety of accounts about the crime.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2012 09:46 am
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:
I first heard about the case in 2008 from sensationalistic news accounts. I assumed from the news accounts that Knox and Sollecito were guilty. I slowly reversed my opinion by reading a variety of accounts about the crime.


Never assume. It's always best to look into the facts yourself.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2012 10:08 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
The translation of Judge Hellmann's report into English has been completed:

http://hellmannreport.wordpress.com


Reading it over, so much of it sounds exactly like the arguments I've made over and over these past years (no coincidence I guess -- I was telling the truth about the evidence, and so was the judge).

There was one part though that even I did not realize:

As I've often stated, the fact that Amanda's DNA was in her own sink was hardly incriminating just because Guede rinsed blood in the same spot.

However, I never challenged the claim that her DNA was found in the same spot as the blood.

According to the judge's ruling though, there was no evidence that the blood and DNA ever overlapped to begin with. The Italians swabbed the entire sink with one single swab when they tested it, and there is no way to tell what part of the sink Amanda's DNA came from.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2012 12:57 am
Frank's got a new post up, and he is even better than usual.

http://perugiashock.com/2012/01/31/part-2-amanda-raffaele-in/
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 1 Feb, 2012 07:01 pm

This is interesting.

This article came out just after Meredith was killed, well before the Italian Police found Guede's handprint and started looking for him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1568338/British-student-made-date-with-her-killer.html

The narrative of the story leaked by the Italian Police is eerie in the way it mirrors Guede's own lies about what happened that night.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 16 Feb, 2012 05:19 am
Unconfirmed (but from a decent source) report that bidding for Amanda Knox's book deal has gone past $3.8 million.

http://m.twitter.com/ninaburleigh/status/169801761593376768

Yay!
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 16 Feb, 2012 02:21 pm

HarperCollins Is Said to Acquire Rights to Amanda Knox Memoir

By JULIE BOSMAN

Four months after being freed from an Italian prison and cleared of charges that she murdered her roommate, Amanda Knox has sold her memoir for close to $4 million, according to people familiar with the negotiations.

After a heated auction among publishing houses that stretched for days, HarperCollins bought the rights this week to publish Ms. Knox’s book, which is expected to be a gripping account of her experiences in Italy.

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/harpercollins-is-said-to-acquire-rights-to-amanda-knox-memoir
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sat 3 Mar, 2012 10:26 pm

Amanda Knox has deal with HarperCollins for memoir

By HILLEL ITALIE, AP National Writer – Feb 16, 2012

NEW YORK (AP) — Amanda Knox has a book deal.

The young exchange student whose conviction in Italy and eventual acquittal on murder charges made headlines worldwide has an agreement with HarperCollins to tell her story. The 24-year-old Seattle resident, imprisoned for four years in Perugia, Italy, has not publicly discussed her ordeal beyond a brief expression of gratitude upon her release last October.

"Knox will give a full and unflinching account of the events that led to her arrest in Perugia and her struggles with the complexities of the Italian judicial system," HarperCollins said in a statement Thursday.

"Aided by journals she kept during her imprisonment, Knox will talk about her harrowing experience at the hands of the Italian police and later prison guards and inmates. She will reveal never before-told details surrounding her case, and describe how she used her inner strength and strong family ties to cope with the most challenging time of her young life."

The book, currently untitled, is tentatively scheduled for early 2013.

"Many accounts have been written of the Amanda Knox case, and countless writers and reporters have speculated on what role, if any, was played by Knox in that tragic and terrifying sequence of events," HarperCollins publisher Jonathan Burnham said in a statement.

"No one has yet heard Amanda Knox's own account of what happened, and this book will give Knox an opportunity to tell the story in full detail, for the first time. It will be the story of a crime and a trial, but also a moving account of a young woman's struggle to cope with a nightmarish ordeal that placed her at the center of a media storm, and led to her imprisonment."

Financial terms were not disclosed, but an official with knowledge of the negotiations said the deal was worth $4 million for world rights. The official was not authorized to discuss the negotiations and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Knox was represented by Washington attorney Robert Barnett, whose other clients include President Barack Obama and former President George W. Bush. Some 20 publishers were interested and Knox met with seven, all of whom submitted bids during a recent auction.

Burnham said that Knox, who studied creative writing, would work with a collaborator and that her book will cover her life in Perugia leading up to the murder of 21-year-old British student Meredith Kercher, along with an account of the events surrounding the murder. Knox's editor will be Claire Wachtel, whose other authors have included crime novelist Dennis Lehane, journalist Cokie Roberts and U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas.

"Claire has a great track record of working with high-profile figures," Burnham said. "She's a very sensitive, responsive editor who I think can work with someone like Amanda, who's new to the experience."

Publishers in recent years have shied from controversial defendants, but Burnham said he was deeply impressed by Knox when he met with her.

"The experience of actually sitting down in a room and talking for an hour, an hour and a half with Amanda made me realize this was a very mature, intelligent woman who had been through an extraordinary experience," Burnham said.

"She'll write a very thoughtful, reflective and serious book about what happened. And that moves this book away from the world of tabloids, the lurid side, to something more compelling and, in a way, more longstanding."

Judge Claudio Pratillo Hellman, the Italian appeals court judge who freed Knox, broadly criticized the investigation and conviction of Knox. In a 143-page document released in December, Hellman wrote that she had been pressed to make statements against her own interest and strongly questioned the reliability of a pair of key witnesses.

Knox's legal issues are not over. Earlier this week, Italian prosecutors asked the country's highest criminal court to reinstate the murder convictions of Knox and her former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito. Prosecutor Giovanni Galati said he is "very convinced" that Sollecito and Knox were responsible for the Nov. 1, 2007, stabbing death of Kercher, who shared an apartment with Knox in Perugia.

Kercher was found in a pool of blood. The appeals court in October said the guilty verdicts against the pair were not corroborated by any evidence, and that the court hadn't proven they were in the house when Kercher was killed.

A third defendant, Ivory Coast-born Rudy Guede, was convicted in a separate trial of sexually assaulting and stabbing Kercher. His 16-year sentence, reduced in appeal from an initial 30 years, was upheld by Italy's highest court in 2010.

Meanwhile, a lawyer for Knox recently filed an appeal of her slander conviction in Italy. The same court that overturned her murder conviction upheld the charges for slander — for falsely accusing bar owner Diya "Patrick" Lumumba of involvement in the slaying.

Lumumba was freed after two weeks in prison for lack of evidence.

Knox later said she was "manipulated" during her lengthy police interrogation. An Italian judge set Knox's sentence for slander at three years, less than the time she spent in prison. That meant she could leave Italy and return to Seattle.

Copyright © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvaYoW-Y2es0okXqZrbobZ7hDVHg?docId=2a61ba2a51584e65bd76c646fa7ccd40
0 Replies
 
wandeljw
 
  1  
Thu 22 Mar, 2012 11:24 am
Excerpt from "Why the Hunt for Witches Never Ends" by Nigel Burke, Daily Express, March 19, 2012:

Quote:
Witchcraft manuals such as Heinrich Kramer’s Malleus Maleficarum of 1487 made it clear that “all witchcraft comes from carnal lust, which is in women insatiable”. It advised prosecutors that women who did not cry during trial were certain to be witches. Half a millennium on that sounds oddly familiar. When the American student Amanda Knox faced prosecution for the murder of her British housemate Meredith Kercher in Perugia, Italy, the prosecution’s language was redolent of a witch-trial. At an appeal hearing, lawyer Carlo Pacelli described Knox’s “double-faced soul”. One side was “angelic, good, compassionate and in some ways even saintly” but the other side was “demonic, satanic, diabolic”.

SHE was further described as an “enchanting witch”. Her failure to cry or demonstrate expected emotions was used in evidence against her, much in line with Malleus Maleficarum.

Anyone who followed the case could see that this language wasn’t a Rumpole-ish flourish. It was intended as character evidence.

British women may feel relieved that such naked misogyny would not be tolerated here. Amanda Knox was an American woman in an Italian court so why worry? Step in the European Arrest Warrant. If a court in Perugia wishes to try a woman for a crime, it merely needs to send a couple of British police officers to her door who can put her on a plane immediately.

She could meet that charmer Carlo Pacelli across a courtroom where she might not know the language. Suspects transported under the EAW can be kept on remand for months. Britain cannot help them. The European Arrest Warrant does not go through embassies. It arrives hot from the jurisdiction of Italy,

Bulgaria, Romania or any EU member state. There is nowhere in Europe where you can be tried as a witch but there are places where you might be tried like a witch.

To an extent that also includes Britain. My own experience of jury service taught me how jurors, both male and female, tune in to a woman’s demeanour and emotions when she is giving evidence far more acutely than when a man is doing so.

For any slightly unusual female such as Amanda Knox the courtroom is a dangerous place. The ghost of the witch trial remains.
0 Replies
 
wandeljw
 
  1  
Tue 1 May, 2012 11:28 am
Quote:
Amanda Knox prosecutors under investigation
(By Nick Squires, The Telegraph, 01 May 2012)

Two prosecutors in Perugia, where Miss Kercher was murdered, face accusations of wasting 182,000 euros (£150,000) of public money by commissioning a controversial 3D video which purported to show how the murder unfolded.

The contentious video, which defence lawyers said was based on circumstantial evidence, showed Miss Kercher being held down and stabbed to death by Miss Knox and her two co-accused.

The Leeds University student and her alleged murderers were represented in the 20 minute film by animated 'avatars'. It was played on a big screen to the judge and jury in the original trial in 2009.

The National Audit Office is now investigating the prosecutors, Giuliano Mignini and his deputy, Manuela Comodi, on whether the video was a necessary part of their case.

If found culpable they could have to pay the money back to the prosecutors' office.
0 Replies
 
wandeljw
 
  2  
Thu 10 May, 2012 11:37 am
Quote:
Mail Online editor forgot to flush
(Will Sturgeon, The Media Blog, May 9, 2012)

Martin Clarke the editor of the Mail Online today told the Leveson Inquiry that a combination of "Human error and over-zealousness" was responsible for an infamous article which wrongly stated that Amanda Knox had failed in her appeal against a murder conviction.

Clarke said: "There were three mistakes... the first one other people made as well which was they misunderstood a verdict being given in Italian."

He's right, there were a number of outlets which made the same mistake and jumped the gun. But the Mail's mistake was arguably made more memorable because it wasn't just the verdict they got wrong. The Mail Online ran an account of how Knox looked "stunned" when the verdict was read out and went on to claim: "As Knox realized the enormity of what judge Hellman was saying she sank into her chair sobbing uncontrollably while her family and friends hugged each other in tears...Prosecutors were delighted with the verdict and said that 'justice has been done' although they said on a 'human factor it was sad two young people would be spending years in jail'... Following the verdict Knox and Sollecito were taken out of court escorted by prison guards and into a waiting van which took her back to her cell at Capanne jail near Perugia and him to Terni jail, 60 miles away."

None of which happened of course, though Clarke explained this as a failure of process, telling the Leveson Inquiry: "The second error was we had prepared what in newspaper parlance is called a 'set and hold' ...where you'd have copy ready to roll. That should never have gone out until it had been checked against what actually happened."

The third leg of this unfortunate shambles was a failure to hide the evidence. Clarke said: "The third error was once we had killed the story we should have done something technical called flushing the cache which would have cleared the story from the internet."

Don't you hate it when people don't flush properly.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 30 May, 2012 04:23 am
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:
Martin Clarke the editor of the Mail Online today told the Leveson Inquiry that a combination of "Human error and over-zealousness" was responsible for an infamous article which wrongly stated that Amanda Knox had failed in her appeal against a murder conviction.


I find that error trivial compared to their years of horrific slander of Amanda, some of which helped Italy to justify their illegal incarceration of Amanda and Raffaele.

I hope Amanda and Raffaele sue them into bankruptcy.

------------------------------------------------------

I see Raffaele is going to have to re-title his book, as Casey Anthony has chosen the same title for her own book.

(I never could tell whether Casey Anthony was innocent or guilty, but there has never been any doubt that Amanda and Raffaele are innocent.)
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sat 28 Jul, 2012 02:24 am

Italy sets March appeal for Amanda Knox acquittal
Jul 19, 2012

ROME (AP) — An Italian court in Perugia has set March 25 for the prosecution's appeal of Amanda Knox's acquittal in the 2007 murder of her British roommate Meredith Kercher.

The conviction of the American student and her former Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito was overturned on appeal last year after the court ruled there was no conclusive evidence against the couple.

Her lawyer Carlo Dalla Vedova said Thursday that the hearing by Italy's highest appeals court would last no longer than a day. He said during the same hearing the court will consider Knox's appeal of her conviction for slander for falsely accusing a bar owner of being involved in the murder in the university town of Perugia.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8vrqID6ok6p9-rRNR9FaYxiEgjg?docId=b42253809c70408abf9bfd2f3e471780
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 12 Aug, 2012 03:35 pm
Antonio Curatolo (the heroin-addled homeless witness) has died in prison.


Likely murdered by the Italians in order to silence him. But I guess that is what you get for helping Italians send innocent people to prison.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 07:10 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Antonio Curatolo (the heroin-addled homeless witness) has died in prison.

Likely murdered by the Italians in order to silence him. But I guess that is what you get for helping Italians send innocent people to prison.



Frank has a post up:

http://perugiashock.com/2012/08/11/death-of-a-funny-liar
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 20 Aug, 2012 04:41 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
However, I am also not very willing to let you or others derail the thread by making it about me instead of about Amanda and Raffaele.


Who are you to tell anybody here such? You are a normal A2K-member as far as I know. And certainly not the creator of this thread.


Who I am is someone who will refuse to cooperate with any attempts to make the thread about me.

If you want to discuss me on some other day, fine. Today I'll not be engaging in any more discussions about me.


I just remembered that I never went back and answered these. The verdict is past, so I guess I'm willing to talk about "me" (to some extent at least).
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 20 Aug, 2012 04:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
And chalk up my post about harming Italian children to: I'm very angry (with much justification), and angry people sometimes lash out.


You should asked voluntarily for some professional help.


Why? It is perfectly reasonable for moral and just people to experience extreme anger when confronted with brutal thugs cruelly inflicting pain and suffering upon innocent victims.

I suggest that the people with some sort of mental problem are the ones who experience no anger in such situations.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 20 Aug, 2012 04:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Your sense of ethics and justice seems to be ... well, low, to say it mildly.


I strenuously defend the innocent, and I condemn those who inflict atrocities and cruelty upon the innocent.

How exactly is that incompatible with ethics and justice?
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Guilty murderer Amanda Knox - Question by contrex
Amanda Knox - Discussion by JTT
The Trial that JUST WON'T END - Question by michellesings
Amanda Knox conviction thrown out - Discussion by gungasnake
Multinational Murder Mystery - Discussion by wandeljw
Who killed Meredith Kercher? - Discussion by DylanB
 
  1. Forums
  2. » Amanda Knox
  3. » Page 46
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 12/26/2024 at 11:12:48