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Amanda Knox

 
 
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 06:48 pm
I'm back and listening, if not to oralloy.

Dj, if you want to feed him, go back to early posts and respond to all of his.

For you to respond at this point is to send blowflies to (fill in your own blank).


oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:20 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:
Don't be feeding the Troll.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rqH4fUbko2U/TS3fflBSfGI/AAAAAAAASvw/DGYxNzhwMkM/s1600/troll.jpg
Oralboy....


If I can go off topic for a moment, it is extremely noteworthy that the ONLY people on the entire planet who back the Palestinians, are scumbag freaks who support sending innocent people to prison.

More than anything else, that shows just how depraved the Palestinians are, and why no one should care about them.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:22 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:
Oralboy.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KgIqQvYUs3I/TMBkuGcJwsI/AAAAAAAAb4c/v5zCDGN1wgU/s1600/****-brain1.jpg


Wow! What an astounding rebuttal of the evidence.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:31 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I'm back and listening, if not to oralloy.


I see the scumbag is back to her usual tactic of trying to distract from the evidence by letting it pass uncommented on, then starting personal attacks on the next page.

I guess I'll have to go back to reposting the evidence over and over as each page passes.



ossobuco wrote:
Dj, if you want to feed him, go back to early posts and respond to all of his.

For you to respond at this point is to send blowflies to (fill in your own blank).


Djjd62 is not here for debate. He or she is just a freak who supports sending innocent people to prison.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:32 pm
@oralloy,
DNA Results are in. (Of course we've all known from the beginning that the third-world freaks faked the original results.)

Anyway, the supposed DNA from Meredith on the knife that was clearly never the murder weapon:

Quote:
1-It’s not proven that the trace was blood.

2-It was a Low Copy Number and it should have been treated according to the recommendations indicated by the scientific community.

3-Because the operating standards indicated by the scientific community haven’t been followed the profile can’t be attributed to Meredith Kercher.

4-The collecting, the handling and the recording of the exhibit didn’t follow the international protocols.

5-It can’t be ruled out that the profile of the trace B may result from a contamination occurred in any phase: collecting, manipulating or during the analysis.




And, the result from the contaminated bra clasp:

Quote:
The results obtained are NOT RELIABLE for the following reasons:

1-Not proven the presence of cells on the exhibit.

2-The electroforetic curve of the autosomic STRs [the DNA profile, partially attributed to Raffaele Sollecito], was wrongly attributed.

3-The electroforetic curve of the Y-chromosome [attributed to Raffaele Sollecito] was wrongly attributed.

4-The international procedures for inspection, collecting and recording of the exhibit haven’t been followed.

5-It can’t be ruled out that the result may come from phenomenons of contamination occurred in any phase: collecting, manipulating or during the analysis.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:34 pm
@oralloy,
A better translation of the DNA results:

Quote:
CONCLUSIONS

Based on the considerations explained above, we are able to respond as follows to the inquiries posed at the assignment hearing:

"Having examined the record and conducted such technical investigations as shall be necessary, the Expert Panel shall ascertain:

1. whether it is possible, by means of a new technical analysis, to identify the DNA present on items 165b (bra clasp) and 36 (knife), and to determine the reliability of any such identification"

- The tests that we conducted to determine the presence of blood on item 36 (knife) and item 165B (bra clasps) yielded a negative result.

- The cytomorphological tests on the items did not reveal the presence of cellular material. Some samples of item 36 (knife), in particular sample "H", present granules with a circular/hexagonal characteristic morphology with a cental radial structure. A more detailed microscopic study, together with the consultation of data in the literature, allowed us to ascertain that the structures in question are attributable to granules of starch, thus matter of a vegetable nature.

- The quantification of the extracts obtained from the samples obtained from item 36 (knife) and item 165B (bra clasps), conducted via Real Time PCR, did not reveal the presence of DNA.

- In view of the absence of DNA in the extracts that we obtained, with the agreement of the consultants for the parties, we did not proceed to the subsequent amplification step.

2. "if it is not possible to carry out a new technical analysis, shall evaluate, on the basis of the record, the degree of reliability of the genetic analysis performed by the Scientific Police on the aforementioned items, including with respect to possible contamination."

Having examined the record and the relevant documents, we are able to report the following conclusions regarding the laboratory analyses performed on Item 36 (knife) and Item 165B (bra clasps):

ITEM 36 (KNIFE)

Relative to the genetic analysis performed on trace A (handle of the knife), we agree with the conclusion reached by the Technical Consultant regarding the attribution of the genetic profile obtained from these samples to Amanda Marie Knox.

Relative to trace B (blade of the knife) we find that the technical analyses performed are not reliable for the following reasons:

1. There does not exist evidence which scientifically confirms that trace B (blade of knife) is the product of blood.

2. The electrophoretic profiles exhibited reveal that the sample indicated by the letter B (blade of knife) was a Low Copy Number (LCN) sample, and, as such, all of the precautions indicated by the international scientific community should have been applied.

3. Taking into account that none of the recommendations of the international scientific community relative to the treatment of Low Copy Number (LCN) samples were followed, we do not accept the conclusions regarding the certain attribution of the profile found on trace B (blade of knife) to the victim Meredith Susanna Cara Kercher, since the genetic profile, as obtained, appears unreliable insofar as it is not supported by scientifically validated analysis;

4. International protocols of inspection, collection, and sampling were not followed;

5. It cannot be ruled out that the result obtained from sample B (blade of knife) derives from contamination in some phase of the collection and/or handling and/or analyses performed.


ITEM 165B (BRA CLASPS)

Relative to Item 165B (bra clasps), we find that the technical analysis is not reliable for the following reasons:

1. There does not exist evidence which scientifically confirms the presence of supposed flaking cells on the item;

2. There was an erroneous interpretation of the electrophoretic profile of the autosomic STRs;

3. There was an erroneous interpretation of the electrophoretic profile relative to the Y chromosome;

4. The international protocols for inspection, collection, and sampling of the item were not followed;

5. It cannot be ruled out that the results obtained derive from environmental contamination and/or contamination in some phase of the collection and/or handling of the item.

THE EXPERTS

Prof. Carla Vecchiotti

Prof. Stefano Conti


http://viewfromwilmington.blogspot.com/2011/06/independent-dna-experts-weigh-in.html
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djjd62
 
  3  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:37 pm
@oralloy,
not true, i simply played your game of wishing death on large groups of people, not all of them connected to the case (as per your wish that the us military kill italians to free AK and that some dude be given a large knife to kill italian folks)

for the most part i have no feelings towards the guilt or innocence of ms knox, it affects my life not one bit
djjd62
 
  3  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:42 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
Dj, if you want to feed him, go back to early posts and respond to all of his.


i'm not feeding anything, i don't believe there are trolls (well not internet ones any way, i'm still open to under the bridge, billy goat gruff types)

it's obvious that oralloy has got a bit of a bee in his bonnet, and i was addressing it
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:49 pm
@djjd62,
Bee in his bonnet? Do you know how many hundreds of times he has posted in this thread?

You are just new candy.

Your punishment for doubting me is to start at page one and then read thoroughly up until now, with no skipping, as that is cheating. The talk was interesting in the beginning, but that passed.


Whatever, knock yourself out.

djjd62
 
  1  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:52 pm
@ossobuco,
i've regularly visited this thread since it started, it's not a subject i have any real interest in, but poking the beehive has always been fun
djjd62
 
  1  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:57 pm
@ossobuco,
your right about his prolific posting, i just realized that you started this thread, i usually read through the posts about once week, i'd forgotten you started it and was sure oralloy had

i mean no disrespect to you if i play
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:00 pm
@djjd62,
Ok, sorry for not assuming that, me the brat, I guess I know you better than that.

I am interested, both re the case and the italian justice system and its foibles and occasions of action. Particularly lately,re Berlusconi, but never mind.


Snort, this was to your post before last..

Plus, if you had been playing lately, I wouldn't have noticed, given as I am to avoid homicidal all american posters.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:17 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
not true, i simply played your game of wishing death on large groups of people, not all of them connected to the case (as per your wish that the us military kill italians to free AK and that some dude be given a large knife to kill italian folks)


Nonsense. The people of Italy are carrying out a monstrous atrocity.

There is no moral equivalence whatsoever between "my wish that bad people get exactly what they deserve" and "your wish that innocent people experience suffering that they don't deserve".



djjd62 wrote:
for the most part i have no feelings towards the guilt or innocence of ms knox, it affects my life not one bit


You are extremely callous, at best.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:18 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
Bee in his bonnet? Do you know how many hundreds of times he has posted in this thread?


The scumbag was hoping that the thread would be devoted to slandering innocent people, and was horrified to see me posting actual evidence of their innocence.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:19 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
poking the beehive has always been fun


Like I said, callous.

Do you have any comprehension of the magnitude of the atrocity that Italy is committing?

Are you a sociopath?
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:19 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I am interested, both re the case and the italian justice system and its foibles and occasions of action.


The only thing you are interested in, is obscuring facts and evidence.
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ossobuco
 
  2  
Fri 1 Jul, 2011 08:34 pm
@djjd62,
Break my heart, you though Oralloy started the thread?

Well, that's a vote for bothering to answer, and answer, and answer, and answer, and answer, and answer, and so on.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Jul, 2011 06:14 pm
Court day Monday (July 25).

The third-world Italian freaks are going to be coming up with a slew of lies to try to cover up the facts that they don't know how to collect evidence or do a DNA test, and that they just concoct fraudulent results against whatever innocent people happen to be handy.
contrex
 
  3  
Mon 25 Jul, 2011 12:14 am
She ain't gonna walk, oralloy, hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!
McTag
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2011 04:19 am
@oralloy,

Quote:
The third-world Italian freaks are going to be coming up with a slew of lies to try to cover up the facts that they don't know how to collect evidence or do a DNA test, and that they just concoct fraudulent results against whatever innocent people happen to be handy.


And O J Simpson walked.

Strange, an American criticising another country's legal process.
 

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