The No Win Scenario

High Seas wrote:

David knows a very great deal about legal - and non-legal - consequences of threatening anyone with a gun. In fact I can't believe that such an idiotic idea was floated by way of advice to begin with - not even the naivete of the poster who suggested it can begin to excuse it. The FIRST thing taught about shooting is always point the gun at the ground or at the target. The SECOND thing is NEVER to point it at another person UNLESS you're prepared to SHOOT the person. Ignorance in the advice given here so far is compounded by stupidity: pointing a gun at a suspected drug dealer is sure to cause prompt reaction by his "security" associates - all of whom are armed, none of whom has gone through formal training in firearms. Why not have Brandon's friends wear T-shirts with this picture to make it real easy for when they're out of their home, of course known to said security associates?

It's a standard joke on a2k to call on David this way.

Don't give a guy you suspect could be involved in criminal activity any type of warning ever! That was the stupid bit of advice, the Dave stuff was funny. Ironic. ...................

This is a funny construction, sort of a 'I have a friend who is kind of pregnant...' But, let's assume that it's not you that we're talking about.

I'd lay 10-1 odds that the dude is a marijuana dealer. No big deal there.

But the noise thing is a big deal. Start calling the cops. At the very least, leave an anonymous note on the door saying that the cops WILL be called if the noise continues, and people who don't want cops coming by their place should keep that in mind before having loud-ass parties and music all night.

Cycloptichorn

Just yards from the U.S. border in Ciudad Juarez, a group of gunmen burst into a rehab clinic last month, lined up 17 patients and murdered them. Blood flowed out onto the sidewalk. "We never received any threats, they just came in and started shooting," said a survivor of the clinic attack who declined to give his name for fear of reprisals. "We never hid anyone from any gang, we didn't have anything to hide."

Are "the couple" the only people bothered by the noise? Is there only one unit that shares walls/floor-ceiling with the problematic unit? Is the problematic person a renter or owner?

Monterey - I live in Manhattan. The chic part of Manhattan, admittedly, but even so I know what's happening around town in my own borough as well as in surrounding areas like the Bronx. If the guy really is a drug dealer there's countless other ways to get him out of there - threatening him with or without a gun, and complaining about the noise have got to be the absolutely last things to attempt. It's not a funny subject. David will be able to say more about the crime statistics in our town - part of his legal work involved them.

They should call the police about the noise, but they should call the vice squad about the drug dealer type behavior. Tips like this is how they make arrests. All you have to do is describe your neighbor's behavior and let them take it from there.

@High Seas,
SOmebody needs a nap.

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Brandon - thanks, I think all of us got the picture by now. What you can do is send the info to whichever is the nearest FBI office to you, here's the one in Manhattan >

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26 Federal Plaza, 23rd Floor
New York, NY 10278-0004
Phone: (212) 384-1000
Fax: (212) 384-4073 / 4074
E-mail: [email protected]

> making it very clear it's speculation, and give address of premises, description of person, name and cellphone number if available - you don't have to sign, they accept anonymous tips - so they can see if anything comes up on their database. If it's just a noise-related nuisance there's nothing they can do, and if it's some kind of small-time dealing with no major gang affiliation they'll probably just tip off the local police. Leave it at that and buy earplugs in the meantime

engineer wrote:

They should call the police about the noise, but they should call the vice squad about the drug dealer type behavior. Tips like this is how they make arrests. All you have to do is describe your neighbor's behavior and let them take it from there.

This is just the point. That's an unworkable suggestion, because one can only take wild guesses how he supports himself, and the noise is annoying to the couple, but probably doesn't rise to the level of violating a noise ordinance. But it's there pretty much every night and often during the day.