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Some idiots actually think the NFL is wrong for giving Vick a 2nd chance.

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 05:15 am
@BillRM,
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Hawkeys so you are the opinion that you must be Peta member to find Vick acts dealing with dogs sickening and unforgivable?
I believe in redemption and remembering that we are all flawed being with the capacity for evil...there is almost nothing that is not forgivable.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 05:41 am
@hawkeye10,
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there is almost nothing that is not forgivable.


We do not agree it would seem.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 05:46 am
@BillRM,
Certainly Vick helped the EAgles last night!.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 06:04 am
@farmerman,

that was an ol' fashioned beat-down...
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 06:07 am
@Region Philbis,
very gratifying turn of the score from the first SKins game. Yessir, very gratifyin.
I actually missed my "Porn STars" show for the game.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 10:32 am
Vick was brilliant last night and it certainly appears that he has matured as a quarterback. Whether or not that maturation is due (at least in part) to his trials and tribulations off the field is an interesting question, and it's very difficult to imagine the two are not linked.

I seem to recall, though, an interview with Vick wherein he claimed that he knew all along that he would have to ''mature" into more of a conventional, pocket-passing QB, and that even if he had not been out of the game, by this time in his career he would have made the shift. Not certain of my recollection here, but if it's accurate it would suggest that, at least in terms of his atheletic life, he doesn't believe his problems led to anything other than missed games and paychecks.

On the other hand, he seems more than willing to credit his crime & punishment, to some extent, with his maturation as a person. But then he has to doesn't he?

It will be interesting to see if Vick "rewards" the Eagles for their willingness to give him a second chance when the bidding wars begin.

Now that he is shining in the pocket as well as on the run, he is going to be a very desirable commodity next season, and I don't think his past misdeeds will, at all, impact the deal he is able to obtain.

I suspect that, at least for Eagle fans, every brilliant performance he delivers reduces further the glare of his cruel performances of the past.

Of course, he still puts himself in increased jeopardy every time he takes off down the field, and there's a better than usual chance that each game he plays might be his last.
Miller
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 12:32 pm
Yes, it's true that Vick
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did serve his time
. However, what was his actual time behind bars? As I recall, Vick had a very high priced lawyer make a deal, in which part way through his time in jail, Vick was transferred to a half-way house.

His lawyer claimed that Vick needed "drug rehab", which was unavailable to him in jail . Therefore to gain full recovery from his "addiction to drugs", Vick would need to be "released" from jail and placed in a half-way house.

Thus, Vick,never completed his orignal sentence for animal abuse. Why?

You see, it pays to have a high priced lawyer in order to beat the justice system, return to the glorius NFL and be a true American football hero. Do you think a poor guy gets the same degree of justice as a rich guy in the USA?

Vick is bad news, no matter how you cut it. There's no excuse for animal cruelty.
panzade
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:13 pm
It's difficult being a Redskins fan these days. Owner Daniel Snyder's had his head up his ass for so long he ran out of oxygen on Monday when he signed McNabb to a huge extension.
As we all know, the reason the Eagles never came close to winning a SB is that McNabb was a choker.
Reid must be laughing his head off.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:36 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

It's difficult being a Redskins fan these days. Owner Daniel Snyder's had his head up his ass for so long he ran out of oxygen on Monday when he signed McNabb to a huge extension.
As we all know, the reason the Eagles never came close to winning a SB is that McNabb was a choker.
Reid must be laughing his head off.


And could Snyder have been made to look like a fool any better that he was with last night's game?

I would say Vick now has a floor for his own deal negotiation, but I don't think anyone else in the league would have given McNabb a contract like that.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:49 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I could not believe how Donovan seemed to purposely aim his passes into the dirt.
Vick looked like he was playing the game filled with heium, he ws that light on his feet. Was he p[laying against the Montgomery County Midget league tag fooball team?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:53 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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and there's a better than usual chance that each game he plays might be his last.
He does take some extreme chances with his style, that is true. Some lineman's got his number and he could be out for the rest of his life as he gets older and slower.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:55 pm
@panzade,
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Reid must be laughing his head off.
I imagine that all of the other teams are either laughing their heads off, or shaking them. Wanting McNabb at all is a stretch, and then paying him well too??!!!

I have never liked the Redskins, but from the outside looking in I'd day that the only fix is new owners.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 03:00 pm
@Miller,
I don't excuse animal cruelty.
Humans (and indeed some animals in some matters) are capable of learning. Not always just for the benefits of seeming to learn, however large a motivation that might be. We all move around within cultures and some of them are not wide ranging. It takes a certain amount of big heart to read all the stuff against oneself, and it seems like Vick did, at least a bit, or was otherwise informed.

People can grow. Really, that is our best hope for all of us.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 07:42 pm
“Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did (it) in a heartless and cruel way.” He added, “I think personally he should have been executed for that.”


~ Tucker Carlson.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 07:47 pm
@Rockhead,
What a twit....
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2010 06:59 am
@hawkeye10,

not surprised to learn he works for fox news...
Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2010 07:17 am
@Region Philbis,
Amen to that. I detest his repeated acts of cruelty. I love my dog and all dogs, but come on! Is there no such thing as serving your time for your crimes and being contrite? It is possible that he has reformed.

Wait, perhaps this grandstanding is all about creating sensationalism. If he makes such an inflammatory remark, won't he attract more attention? The hell with reporting the news in a balanced way with some sort of objectivity. Fox and ****** Carlson want to MAKE and BE the news - themselves.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2010 08:22 am
@Rockhead,
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I think personally he should have been executed for that.”


Hell no however locking him up for a few decades would had been fine with me.

Executions should be save for cats killers.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2010 01:37 pm
@Ragman,
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Fox and ****** Carlson want to MAKE and BE the news - themselves
I dont think this is about Fox, it is about the fact that Carlson has a hell of a time staying employed so he grandstands in the attempt to get noticed.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2010 04:37 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Fox and ****** Carlson want to MAKE and BE the news - themselves
I dont think this is about Fox, it is about the fact that Carlson has a hell of a time staying employed so he grandstands in the attempt to get noticed.


Or maybe it's because he believes torturing and murdering animals deserves the death penalty. He wouldn't be the only one in America who does. Senator Byrd all but called for the death penalty for Vick if he was found guilty.

 

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