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Some idiots actually think the NFL is wrong for giving Vick a 2nd chance.

 
 
patiodog
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 05:57 am
George perfectly sums up my sentiments.

Quote:
The NFL is justified in letting him play.
Having said all that, I don't want him on my team.


Having never spent a dime on the NFL (except indirectly through payments to cable companies), I'm hardly in a position to boycott. If I was an Iggles ticket holder, I'd probably have put the tix up for sale immediately (even knowing I might not recoup what I'd paid).
ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 06:28 am
@patiodog,
Quote:

Having never spent a dime on the NFL (except indirectly through payments to cable companies), I'm hardly in a position to boycott. If I was an Iggles ticket holder, I'd probably have put the tix up for sale immediately (even knowing I might not recoup what I'd paid).


I would be curious to know whether the price of a Eagles season ticket did this year.

It is quite possible that even with the "boycott", you might turn a profit.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 08:21 am
@patiodog,
Quote:
Having never spent a dime on the NFL (except indirectly through payments to cable companies), I'm hardly in a position to boycott. If I was an Iggles ticket holder, I'd probably have put the tix up for sale immediately (even knowing I might not recoup what I'd paid).

Quote:
Some Eagles fans dumped their tickets. "If the Eagles are going to sell out, then so am I," read a sales listing on Craigslist.

But far more people begged for tickets. "If you're disappointed in the Eagles for picking up Michael Vick, I will gladly take your tickets off of your hands," one wrote.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/53277487.html?page=1&c=y
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 08:33 am
@George,
I agree - don't particularly like the guy - certainly don't like what he has done - do not consider him a good person at all, however, he paid the sentence and his punishment, so as despicable as he may be, he is entitled to go on.

I like to look at the positive - at least he has been (on the surface) supporting help for dogs and speaking out against mistreatment of them - there is some positive there. And at the very least, seeing even a star athelete going to jail for dog fighting, may deter others.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:04 am
@Linkat,
PETA type activist comments: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/michael-vick-black-sheep_b_260990.html
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:11 am
@engineer,
Unfortunately Peta is one of the few animal rights groups I would not support - can't stand them.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:17 am
@engineer,
Baldwin wrote a thoughtful and insightful column. He's pretty talented IMO
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 01:41 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

Baldwin wrote a thoughtful and insightful column. He's pretty talented IMO


From the article by Baldwin:

Quote:
Vick deserves another chance. One chance. Just like all of us who eat meat, drink milk, attend rodeos, circuses, zoos and horse races and yet find it easier to hand Vick the bill for all of the other, more systemic abuses in our society may find ourselves needing another chance one day. Just like Michael Vick.


But if someday I, or most of us, do something for which we need another chance or forgiveness, it won't really be just like Michael Vick, because I, and hopefully most of us, are simply incapable of repeatedly killing innocent dogs with our bare hands in the cruelest possible manner. Most people are simply incapable of that level of sociopathic, or possibly sadistic, behavior.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 01:41 pm
@panzade,
Andy Reid's been screwing around with unconventional play formations. Vick would be just the ideal guy to put in for some ole fashioned fooball . (Im talkin about leather helmet days).


I love dogs too, and I was hard on Vick when he was caught. Since then hes been a model prisoner and has shown remorse and an explanation about how he actually got into this. His livelihood is what we are talking about, were not keeping him from some hobby.

I believe him. Lets move on.


BTW, Donovan was behind the entire strategy to sign Vick up.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 01:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Andy Reid's been screwing around with unconventional play formations. Vick would be just the ideal guy to put in for some ole fashioned fooball . (Im talkin about leather helmet days).


I love dogs too, and I was hard on Vick when he was caught. Since then hes been a model prisoner and has shown remorse and an explanation about how he actually got into this. His livelihood is what we are talking about, were not keeping him from some hobby.

I believe him. Lets move on.


BTW, Donovan was behind the entire strategy to sign Vick up.


Yep.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 01:46 pm
@Brandon9000,
yeah, but have you done any of the following:

"eat meat, drink milk, attend rodeos, circuses, zoos and horse races"?

If so, according to Peta you are just as guilty as Vick - even more so as you will not have to serve any jail time you damn meat eater!
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 01:57 pm
@Linkat,
What does Peta being a over the top nut group have to do with Vick crimes?
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 02:04 pm
@BillRM,
My post in any case was in response to the peta article written by Baldwin that some one up above posted - it compared Vick to meat eaters, milk drinkers and zoo goers.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 06:23 pm
(I do have to admit curiosity from a football point of view. I won't flip away from SportsCenter when Iggles highlights are on...)
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 27 Aug, 2009 11:11 pm
Quote:
3. Vick was welcomed warmly in Philly. Vick received a standing ovation from the Lincoln Field crowd when he came in on the second play of the Eagles' first offensive series. The cheering continued throughout the night.

"I can't explain the feeling," Vick said. "It was unbelievable the way I was embraced and the warm welcome I received. It actually made me screw up one of my reads. I wanted to please the crowd and I actually made a bad play. I came back from it, but it was awesome."

Only a handful of protestors made the trip to stadium. That might change when Vick plays in a regular-season game, but the animal-rights activists weren't going to trek to South Philly in rush-hour traffic for a preseason game. The NAACP showed up to support Vick and was mobbed by the media, but the group's appearance made little real impact

Knowing Philadelphia fans, they'll support Vick as long as the team is winning. If they lose, and Vick is part of the reason, they'll start bombarding local radio station 610 WIP to ask why they bothered bringing in a player with so many issues.




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andrew_perloff/08/27/vick.eagles.debut/index.html?cnn=yes

Looks to me that the American tradition of allowing second acts is alive and well. Of course it could also be that NFL fans by and large don't care about the issue of animal abuse, it would be interesting to see some research on this. The owners of this team might be wicked smart, and had some research that showed that Vicks crimes dont register with their fans. I seriously doubt that many Peta members spend money on NFL, in which case they can be ignored so long as the real fans don't buy the Peta argument.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 27 Aug, 2009 11:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
Philly fans are their own judge and jury.

they are notoriously fickle...

(ask santa)
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2009 04:37 am
@Rockhead,
Technically, Santa DID flub a simple play when they brought him in for a demo. The fans of Philly are the most loyal and most demanding of professional sports.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2009 10:12 am
@farmerman,
I am sure that Vick is happy to take that deal, that he'll be loved so long as he produces on the field. What a fantastic throw back to old time American values!! This is a true blue American inspirational moment.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 01:04 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Vick finished 20 for 28 with 333 yards, four touchdown passes and a 150.7 passer rating. He also rushed for 80 yards (a 10-yard average) and two touchdowns. Despite missing three games because of an injury, Vick continued to make a strong case for himself as the NFL's most valuable player. The Eagles (6-3) continued to benefit from Vick's impressive comeback, moving into a first-place tie atop the NFC East with the New York Giants.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/15/AR2010111508584_2.html?hpid=artslot&sid=ST2010111600326

HA! and to make it even more sweet it was on the same day that McNabb got a new contract and then sucked, at home, on Monday night football. McNabb is a loser, always has been, always will be.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 05:07 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Peta members spend money on NFL, in which case they can be ignored so long as the real fans don't buy the Peta argument.


Hawkeys so you are the opinion that you must be Peta member to find Vick acts dealing with dogs sickening and unforgivable?
 

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