Some idiots actually think the NFL is wrong for giving Vick a 2nd chance.

That is our right not to allow a dime of our money to go to pay Vick salary is it not?

A poor SOB does not have the lawyers Vick have and could or would as a result likely ended up with a longer term the Vick but you have no problem with it being fair that a poor person is not on the whole going to get as good a treatment by the legal system do you? Is that fair?

BillRM wrote:

A poor SOB does not have the lawyers Vick have and could or would as a result likely ended up with a longer term the Vick but you have no problem with it being fair that a poor person is not on the whole going to get as good a treatment by the legal system do you? Is that fair?

In this particular case, I think the opposite is true. If Vick wasn't a celebrity, he would have got six months of probation.

Vick killed dogs who didn't perform well with his own two hands by repeatedly slamming them into the ground until their bones were broken and they died. I doubt someone capable of such a thing can be reformed. I will certainly not give money to any business he's associated with.

Do you think that six months of probation is an appropriate sentence for killing dogs by slamming thier bodies into the floor until they're dead because they didn't perform well?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Vick killed dogs who didn't perform well with his own two hands by repeatedly slamming them into the ground until their bones were broken and they died. I doubt someone capable of such a thing can be reformed. I will certainly not give money to any business he's associated with.

Really. In China, there are many people who breed dogs so they can chop them up and eat them. I'm sure they don't care how the dogs are treated as they're filleting them. Right here in America we make chickens sit in their own feces all day long and throughout most of their miserable lives in little cages until we're ready to chop their heads off and eat them. We feed cows and pigs the remnants of other dead cows and pigs to fatten them up for our dinner.

How do you know what Vick's early life was like? Maybe the people he hung around with taught him early about the dog-fighting life. Maybe he just learned through his environment. That may not matter in regard to how you feel about his crime, but to consider him non-redeemable because dogs are cute and beloved in our society seems a bit melodramatic.

I wonder how the NFL would have reacted and how people would feel if he were a Chinese guy and he was eating them.

Brandon is not being inconsistent here.

By boycotting the NFL... Brandon is not only refusing to "pay the salary" of Michael Vick. He is also not paying one dime to any of the hundreds of players (and thousands of other employees) in the NFL who eat hamburgers or wear leather shoes.

Its all good to him.

Brandon9000 wrote:

Do you think that six months of probation is an appropriate sentence for killing dogs by slamming thier bodies into the floor until they're dead because they didn't perform well?

What method of killing would make a sentence of six months on probation an appropriate sentence to you? If he had euthanized the non-performers by giving them a shot that gently "put them to sleep," made a nice stew out of them and stood on a corner every sunday feeding it to hungry homeless people would you be okay with six-months of probation?

kickycan wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

Do you think that six months of probation is an appropriate sentence for killing dogs by slamming thier bodies into the floor until they're dead because they didn't perform well?

What method of killing would make a sentence of six months on probation an appropriate sentence to you? If he had euthanized the non-performers by giving them a shot that gently "put them to sleep," made a nice stew out of them and stood on a corner every sunday feeding it to hungry homeless people would you be okay with six-months of probation?

I know for sure that what he actually did do was beyond the threshold for getting jail time. I don't have to state my position to you on lots of different levels of cruelty which don't apply to him. I say that aggravated animal cruelty deserves jail time. Do you agree or disagree?

First of all, is it a proven fact that he personally did those things exactly as you say he did? Not arguing, just not exactly up on all the exact details of his crimes. I'd like to see some evidence for this.

Straw man. I'm refusing to give someone money because he did something bad. Saying that I don't distinguish Vick's acts from eating hamburger or wearing leather is merely lying. If you cannot distinguish between what Vick did and wearing leather, then I pity you.

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Straw man. I'm refusing to give someone money because he did something bad. Saying that I don't distinguish Vick's acts from eating hamburger or wearing leather is merely lying. If you cannot distinguish between what Vick did and wearing leather, then I pity you.

I wasn't claiming a comparison between Vick's acts and eating a hamburger. Rather, I was making a comparison between the effects (or relevance) of your threatened protest and the efforts of PETA.

I think you are being silly (this has nothing to do with the sins of Mr. Vick).