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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 11:36 pm
@InfraBlue,
unregulated? HAHAHA

What country do you live in?
Region Philbis
 
  2  
Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 07:39 am

it's the guns, stupid...

https://iili.io/Hn6iZyN.jpg
InfraBlue
 
  3  
Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 12:08 pm
@McGentrix,
yeP, 6,368 voluntarily reported handgun murders alone in 2019 is a consequence of the unregulated keeping and bearing of arms in the US.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 02:56 pm
@InfraBlue,
You keep saying "unregulated". I do not think it means what you think it means.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 03:04 pm
@McGentrix,
The US has been regulating guns for some 88 years now. Ever since 1934. I am unsure why he does not realize this.

And yes. It does not always mean what he believes. He is badly misunderstanding the term well-regulated as it is used in the Second Amendment.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 04:06 pm
@McGentrix,
Well then let's say woefully deregulated.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 04:07 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

He is badly misunderstanding the term well-regulated as it is used in the Second Amendment.

No I'm not.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 04:48 pm
@InfraBlue,
Alexander Hamilton says that you are wrong. His use of the term "well-regulated" makes it very clear that "well-regulated" means that the militia in question can fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of random individuals.

Sort of like the gears in a "well-regulated" watch all work together as a single coherent unit.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 04:55 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Alexander Hamilton says that you are wrong. His use of the term "well-regulated" makes it very clear that "well-regulated" means that the militia in question can fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of random individuals.

Sort of like the gears in a "well-regulated" watch all work together as a single coherent unit.

No he doesn't. What he says does not preclude the good regulation of the keeping and baring of arms.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 11:24 pm
@InfraBlue,
Places like Chicago and New York City regulate the hell out of firearms... but somehow only the law-abiding citizens that don't murder people are affected. Murderers don't care about gun regulation.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2022 02:19 am
@McGentrix,
Good, comprehensive gun regulation has to be effected on a nationwide scale. Piecemeal policies are useless.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2022 06:27 pm
@InfraBlue,
It can't be. The federal government is prohibited from infringing the rights of the people to keep and bear arms.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2022 09:31 pm
@McGentrix,
The good regulation of the militia in regard to keeping and bearing of arms is not an infringement as per the Second Amendment.
McGentrix
 
  0  
Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2022 03:09 pm
@InfraBlue,
people. You keep saying militia and unregulated and other silly things.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2022 05:28 pm
@McGentrix,
Yeah, people in regard to the militia, what it says in the Second Amendment.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2022 04:37 pm

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McGentrix
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2022 07:55 am
@Region Philbis,
So is it the gun that shoots people or people that shoot people?

Maybe they should make shooting people illegal and stop blaming the guns.
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2022 08:42 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
So is it the gun that shoots people or people that shoot people?

People shoot people with guns.

Quote:
Maybe they should make shooting people illegal and stop blaming the guns.

I believe that's been tried. If people obeyed the law we wouldn't be having this interminable discussion.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2022 08:46 am
@hightor,
Second amendment creeps are never going to stop shooting up schools.

It's what they do.
tatiana667
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2022 08:48 am
@msolga,
As most peoples you identify correctly that there is a problem - i mean very simple to identify - but instead of looking at root of the problem you look at symptoms - guns are not a problem in this particular case
 

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