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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 04:32 am

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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 05:14 am
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Today, a gunman murdered at least 19 children and 2 adults at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.

For years now, after one massacre or another, I have written some version of the same article, explaining that the nation’s current gun free-for-all is not traditional but, rather, is a symptom of the takeover of our nation by a radical extremist minority. The idea that massacres are “the price of freedom,” as right-wing personality Bill O’Reilly said in 2017 after the Mandalay Bay massacre in Las Vegas, in which a gunman killed 60 people and wounded 411 others, is new, and it is about politics, not our history.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution, on which modern-day arguments for widespread gun ownership rest, is one simple sentence: “A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” There’s not a lot to go on about what the Framers meant, although in their day, to “bear arms” meant to be part of an organized militia.

As the Tennessee Supreme Court wrote in 1840, “A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he has a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane.”

Today’s insistence that the Second Amendment gives individuals a broad right to own guns comes from two places.

One is the establishment of the National Rifle Association in New York in 1871, in part to improve the marksmanship skills of American citizens who might be called on to fight in another war, and in part to promote in America the British sport of elite shooting, complete with hefty cash prizes in newly organized tournaments. Just a decade after the Civil War, veterans jumped at the chance to hone their former skills. Rifle clubs sprang up across the nation.

By the 1920s, rifle shooting was a popular American sport. “Riflemen” competed in the Olympics, in colleges, and in local, state, and national tournaments organized by the NRA. Being a good marksman was a source of pride, mentioned in public biographies, like being a good golfer. In 1925, when the secretary of the NRA apparently took money from ammunition and arms manufacturers, the organization tossed him out and sued him.

NRA officers insisted on the right of citizens to own rifles and handguns but worked hard to distinguish between law-abiding citizens who should have access to guns for hunting and target shooting and protection, and criminals and mentally ill people, who should not. In 1931, amid fears of bootlegger gangs, the NRA backed federal legislation to limit concealed weapons; prevent possession by criminals, the mentally ill and children; to require all dealers to be licensed; and to require background checks before delivery. It backed the 1934 National Firearms Act, and parts of the 1968 Gun Control Act, designed to stop what seemed to be America’s hurtle toward violence in that turbulent decade.

But in the mid-1970s, a faction in the NRA forced the organization away from sports and toward opposing “gun control.” It formed a political action committee (PAC) in 1975, and two years later it elected an organization president who abandoned sporting culture and focused instead on “gun rights.”

This was the second thing that led us to where we are today: leaders of the NRA embraced the politics of Movement Conservatism, the political movement that rose to combat the business regulations and social welfare programs that both Democrats and Republicans embraced after World War II. Movement Conservatives embraced the myth of the American cowboy as a white man standing against the “socialism” of the federal government as it sought to level the economic playing field between Black Americans and their white neighbors. Leaders like Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater personified the American cowboy, with his cowboy hat and opposition to government regulation, while television Westerns showed good guys putting down bad guys without the interference of the government.

In 1972, the Republican platform had called for gun control to restrict the sale of “cheap handguns,” but in 1975, as he geared up to challenge President Gerald R. Ford for the 1976 presidential nomination, Movement Conservative hero Ronald Reagan took a stand against gun control. In 1980, the Republican platform opposed the federal registration of firearms, and the NRA endorsed a presidential candidate—Reagan—for the first time.

When President Reagan took office, a new American era, dominated by Movement Conservatives, began. And the power of the NRA over American politics grew.

In 1981 a gunman trying to kill Reagan shot and paralyzed his press secretary, James Brady, and wounded Secret Service agent Tim McCarthy and police officer Thomas Delahanty. After the shooting, then-representative Charles Schumer (D-NY) introduced legislation that became known as the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, or the Brady Bill, to require background checks before gun purchases. Reagan, who was a member of the NRA, endorsed the bill, but the NRA spent millions of dollars to defeat it.

After the Brady Bill passed in 1993, the NRA paid for lawsuits in nine states to strike it down. Until 1959, every single legal article on the Second Amendment concluded that it was not intended to guarantee individuals the right to own a gun. But in the 1970s, legal scholars funded by the NRA had begun to argue that the Second Amendment did exactly that.

In 1997, when the Brady Bill cases came before the Supreme Court as Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court declared parts of the measure unconstitutional.

Now a player in national politics, the NRA was awash in money from gun and ammunition manufacturers. By 2000 it was one of the three most powerful lobbies in Washington. It spent more than $40 million on the 2008 election. In that year, the landmark Supreme Court decision of District of Columbia v. Heller struck down gun regulations and declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms.

Increasingly, NRA money backed Republican candidates. In 2012 the NRA spent $9 million in the presidential election, and in 2014 it spent $13 million. Then, in 2016, it spent over $50 million on Republican candidates, including more than $30 million on Trump’s effort to win the White House. This money was vital to Trump, since many other Republican super PACs refused to back him. The NRA spent more money on Trump than any other outside group, including the leading Trump super PAC, which spent $20.3 million.

The unfettered right to own and carry weapons has come to symbolize the Republican Party’s ideology of individual liberty. Lawmakers and activists have not been able to overcome Republican insistence on gun rights despite the mass shootings that have risen since their new emphasis on guns. Even though 90% of Americans—including nearly 74% of NRA members—support background checks, Republicans have killed such legislation by filibustering it.

The NRA will hold its 2022 annual meeting this Friday in Houston. Former president Trump will speak, along with Texas governor Greg Abbott, senator Ted Cruz, and representative Dan Crenshaw; North Carolina lieutenant governor Mark Robinson; and South Dakota governor Kristi Noem—all Republicans. NRA executive vice president and chief executive officer Wayne LaPierre expressed his enthusiasm for the lineup by saying: “President Trump delivered on his promises by appointing judges who respect and value the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and in doing so helped ensure the freedom of generations of Americans.”

Tonight, President Joe Biden spoke to the nation: “Why are we willing to live with this carnage? Why do we keep letting this happen?... It’s time to turn this pain into action. For every parent, for every citizen in this country, we have to make it clear to every elected official in this country, it’s time to act.” In the Senate, Chris Murphy (D-CT) said, "I am here on this floor, to beg, to literally get down on my hands and knees and beg my colleagues....find a way to pass laws that make this less likely."

But it was Steve Kerr, the coach of the Golden State Warriors basketball team, whose father was murdered by gunmen in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1984, who best expressed the outrage of the nation. At a press conference tonight, shaking, he said, “I’m not going to talk about basketball…. Any basketball questions don’t matter…. Fourteen children were killed 400 miles from here, and a teacher, and in the last ten days we’ve had elderly Black people killed in a supermarket in Buffalo, we’ve had Asian churchgoers killed in Southern California, and now we have children murdered at school. WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO SOMETHING? I’m tired, I’m so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families…. I’m tired of the moments of silence. Enough. There’s 50 senators…who refuse to vote on HR 8, which is a background check rule that the House passed a couple years ago…. [N]inety percent of Americans, regardless of political party, want…universal background checks…. We are being held hostage by 50 senators in Washington who refuse to even put it to a vote despite what we the American people want…because they want to hold onto their own power. It’s pathetic,” he said, walking out of the press conference.

“I’ve had enough.”

HCR
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 07:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Thursday would have been the end of the school year at Robb Elementary School, but the graduation ceremonies have now been cancelled.
Coincidentally, the annual convention and gun show of the NRA begins on the same day - in Houston, Texas. Among the keynote speakers: Senator Cruz and Governor Abbott.
Trump is set to address the NRA event in Houston on Friday that's billed as a “celebration of American freedom.”
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Former president Donald Trump is scheduled to headline a forum at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in Houston this Friday — about a four-hour drive from where a shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Tex., killed at least 19 children and two teachers on Tuesday.

The Memorial Day weekend event is the year’s largest for the gun lobby meeting after cancellations due to the coronavirus pandemic. It’s set to take place over three days and “showcase over 14 acres of the latest guns and gear,” according to its official website.

“The National Rifle Association is pleased to announce that former President Donald Trump will headline a star-studded cast of political heavyweights at the NRA Institute for Legislative Action,” the body said in a statement in May.

The forum is also slated to include Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, South Dakota Gov. Kristi L. Noem, Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas, and North Carolina Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson — all Republicans. The next night, “American Pie” singer Don McLean is due to perform. Sen. John Cornyn (R) of Texas was also scheduled to speak but pulled out before the shooting for personal reasons requiring him to be in Washington on Friday, a spokesman said.

The NRA forum comes as the shooting reignites debate over gun control in Washington. President Biden called for the United States to “stand up to the gun lobby” in the wake of the deadliest school shooting in nearly a decade, and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) moved Tuesday evening to put two House-passed gun-control bills on the chamber’s calendar.

The NRA could not immediately be reached for comment early Wednesday about whether the event will go ahead.
WP
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revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 07:55 am
@hightor,
I really have no words or any hope of change in law on gun violence across this country continually.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 08:44 am

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jcboy
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 08:48 am
Oh here we are again with another school shooting. Tell me again why we’re focused on fetuses when we don’t give a damn about the children and adults killed by guns in this country? Beyond over with it. We’re screwed with the way it’s all going.

I’m out of hopes and prayers.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 01:04 pm
A fifth of Americans think mass shootings are simply unpreventable

(link to poll)


For anyone not living in the USA it's unbelievable that even the massacre of 19 children doesn't raise the question of why public support for tighter gun laws goes unheeded by so many.

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2022 01:43 pm
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I'm not comfortable talking about gun control without also addressing the reasons why we're such a violent country like the lack of people's material needs, lead in everyone's drinking water, perpetual war, poverty, etc..
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 10:27 am
@edgarblythe,
Gun control and the addressing of people's material needs, lead in everyone's drinking water, perpetual war, poverty, etc., is not a zero sum game. Each can be address without detriment to the other.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 11:33 am
@InfraBlue,
For what it's worth, Don McClean canceled his performance for the NRA thugs.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 12:59 pm
@glitterbag,
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McLean is among a few performers who’ve announced they will no longer perform at this weekend’s convention. Country and gospel singer Larry Gatlin and Larry Stewart of the country band Restless Heart also said Thursday they were dropping out in response to the shooting at Robb Elementary School.

McLean’s exit comes as gunmaker Daniel Defense, which manufactured the rifle used by Ramos in Tuesday’s massacre, appears to have also pulled out of the NRA convention. The NRA’s exhibitor list no longer includes Daniel Defense among the hundreds of gunmakers, firearm parts manufacturers and taxidermists appearing at the convention hall. The booth once claimed by Daniel Defense is now only listed as “the NRA.”
WP
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 01:20 pm
@InfraBlue,
So you say.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 02:34 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

So you say.

So, how then is it a zero sum game?
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 10:37 pm
Cruz blaming an open back door for the shootings is like blaming the shorts someone was wearing when a crocodile rips their leg off.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2022 10:59 pm
I notice the right wing gun nuts are completely silent. They know they're wrong, and slither away like the slime they are. They will gradually emerge until the next school tragedy, then slither away again.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2022 03:56 am
Toronto police have just shot dead some 18 year old nonce with a rifle near a school.

No messing about with any right to bear arms bullshit, the threat to children has been eliminated.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2022 05:24 am

Rich Eisen’s Impassioned Response to the Uvalde, Texas School Shootings

BillW
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2022 09:19 am
@Region Philbis,
Guns are the leading cause of death for children in the United States!!!



Just saying <SIGH>
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jcboy
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2022 11:49 am
The NRA is having its annual convention this weekend in Texas and guess what attendees are NOT allowed to bring? A gun! This is just the stupidity of these people. An Organization supporting guns and is all about guns, probably has gun porn, but you can’t bring in a gun to their event!
Well why not??? “well Trump is going to be speaking, so the Secret Service says no”.

So why would they suggest no one can bring a gun into the convention?
“Umm because I guess they think someone could get shot”
Well now you know how every child in America feels right now!
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2022 05:39 pm

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