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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 3 Apr, 2013 10:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
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1. He overreached by including ineffective measures, such as a ban on military-style assault weapons. Opponents seized on those measures to doom the whole package of proposals.


Yes. Thanks again to all the extremists who vehemently insisted that every possible measure be tied to an unconstitutional ban on harmless cosmetic features.

We couldn't have defeated magazine limits without you.



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4. The president imagines that the GOP is the opposition on gun-control policies, but his biggest problem is red-state Democrats who are convinced he offers them no political insulation from irate gun owners.


Some red-state Democrats ARE irate gun owners. Cool

But yes, any politician whose district is a rural area needs to respect the will of the NRA.



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10. There are a whole lot of law-abiding gun owners who don’t trust the government.

The last is perhaps the most important factor, too often ignored by the gun-averse media. The NRA succeeds because it has many, many members who feel strongly about the issue and see the ominous hands of government behind innocuous-sounding proposals (e.g. “background checks”). Just as liberals viscerally recoil from government regulation of marriage and abortion, conservatives do when it comes to guns.


Well, sort of.

But that makes it sound as if we "just believe that there must be something bad" in the proposals.

In reality we actually look at what is being proposed. We learn exactly what the proposals would do. And then we object specifically to the draconian provisions in those innocuous-sounding proposals.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:25 am
@oralloy,
Quote:

I was not using a slippery slope argument.

Actually, you are using a slippery slope argument.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 07:10 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
oralloy wrote:
I was not using a slippery slope argument.


Actually, you are using a slippery slope argument.


Of all my objections to various proposals and laws, I can think of only one objection to one proposal that might even be close to such an argument, but even that one is not really a good match.

Most of my objections to various proposals and laws are nothing whatsoever like a slippery slope argument.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 08:21 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:



the problem with Obama is that he keeps trying to refuse to deal with Congress (and sometimes SCOTUS) by way of making highly emotional appeals to the masses. there is an established order in our capital but this prick long ago decided that it does not apply to him, that he should be allowed to make the rules. this is what Rubin is talking about, she is right, and it has nothing to do with Obama being a D.


Agreed.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 11:06 am
@oralloy,
Really? You have forgotten your argument that registration will lead to confiscation?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 03:23 pm
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/71985_516330255080584_274922599_n.jpg
parados
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 05:43 pm
@H2O MAN,
What is interesting is how Conservatives make up facts and then repeat them because they think that repeating them makes them true.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 05:54 pm
@H2O MAN,
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Adam Lanza — 5-feet-10 and thin, with blue eyes, according to his driver's license — had become a vegan and insisted on eating organic food. Family friends said he was politically conservative, although he was the one member of his immediate family not registered to vote.

Not registered as a Democrat it seems since he wasn't registered to vote.

The Virginia Tech shooter
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Born in South Korea, Cho arrived in the United States at the age of eight with his family. He became a US permanent resident as a South Korean national.

Not a US citizen so I doubt he was registered to vote since he was not eligible to vote.

Colorado theater shooter
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Five hours later, Pollack updated his story to note that his discovery was incorrect; the 24-year old Holmes in question, he wrote, may not even be registered to vote.

Still, that did not move Pollack to change his headline, which still reads that Holmes could be a Democrat;

Not registered as a Democrat if not registered at all.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2013 06:50 am


How much longer will it take before every law abiding American citizen has
at least two guns and enough ammunition to keep them running for years?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2013 07:51 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



How much longer will it take before every law abiding American citizen has
at least two guns and enough ammunition to keep them running for years?

What are you going on about Spurt?

Don't you already think every liberal has a gun or everyone with a gun is a liberal?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2013 10:37 am
@parados,
intereting how these clowns have sotted up the internet with fony websites that repeat and repeat and repeat the same single source and one guy evencoopted the "Snopes site' .

When someone like gunga or spurt posts somethinmg its usually always a cartoon of rsality and it shows how gullible these right wing nut dorks are.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2013 10:53 am


Drunk Formerman and the Parasite: spewing fact-less fiction they believe is truth.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2013 02:59 pm
@H2O MAN,
My statements about those shooters not being registered to vote is supported by the lack of a voter registration.

Where is your evidence of them being registered as Dems?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2013 04:21 pm
@parados,

What are your thoughts about the shooters that are Islamist?
parados
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2013 07:44 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


What are your thoughts about the shooters that are Islamist?

In a country that has people of different colors and different religious backgrounds people of different colors and different religious backgrounds will commit crimes.

Should I condemn all Baptists because the actions of a few?
Kolyo
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2013 08:48 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Some red-state Democrats ARE irate gun owners. Cool


If only there were more of them.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2013 05:52 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Should I condemn all Baptists because the actions of a few?


If you replace the word Baptists with the word conservatives, then you and several others on here are guilty of doing exactly that.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2013 11:50 am
@mysteryman,
Condemning the actions of some is not the same thing as condemning all Conservatives.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2013 07:10 pm

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/388634_500983436633863_228288586_n.jpg
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Apr, 2013 06:29 am


How much longer will it take for officials in big blue states
and cities to enforce the gun laws that are currently on the books?

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