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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 03:30 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Nuh-uh.

That is incorrect. Machine guns were not extensively used in murderous crimes to begin with.

Neither are AR-15 rifles used extensively used in murderous crimes today.

Additionally, merely being used extensively in murderous crimes is not in itself enough to provide a compelling government interest in restricting access to something.

That is why it is unconstitutional to restrict access to handguns despite the fact that they were used far more extensively in murderous crimes than machine guns were.

That's why it is unconstitutional to restrict access to handguns despite the fact that they are used far more extensively in murderous crimes than AR-15 rifles are.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 03:32 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Yes, you're thoroughly confused. You're confounding your straw man arguments about pistol grips and other features as if they were the reason behind the banning of assault weapons, and conflating it with your opinion about legislation concerning assault weapons.

Pistol grips are in fact the reason for laws against pistol grips.

Wrongly referring to ordinary hunting rifles as assault weapons does not change the fact that pistol grips are the reason for laws against pistol grips.

Falsely accusing Glennn of confusion does not change the fact that pistol grips are the reason for laws against pistol grips.

Falsely accusing Glennn of making straw man arguments does not change the fact that pistol grips are the reason for laws against pistol grips.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 12:13 pm
@oralloy,
@oralloy,
Nuh-uh.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 03:04 pm
@InfraBlue,
Wrong again. Laws against pistol grips are all about pistol grips.

Additionally, merely being used extensively in murderous crimes is not in itself enough to provide a compelling government interest in restricting access to something.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 04:26 pm
@oralloy,
Nuh-uh.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 04:42 pm
@InfraBlue,
You are pretty silly when you deny reality.

Just remember that you'll need to compensate all of your victims before I will support any new gun laws.

And good luck trying to get new gun laws passed without the support of moderates like me.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 21 Mar, 2020 06:13 pm
@oralloy,
M'kay.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 11:08 am
https://dailytorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Feed-Hogg-NRD-990.jpg
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 11:09 am
@oralloy,
I may have to subscribe to Branco...
revelette3
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 11:12 am
@oralloy,
True you are moderate in most other issues, but in gun laws? Please...
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 11:19 am
@revelette3,
Yes. I am a gun rights moderate.

The NRA is moderate too. When it comes to Congressional lobbying, the hardliners are represented by the GOA.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 11:30 am
So gun stores in the US are running out of guns and ammo, it seems a whole bunch of Americans have started buying guns and ammo that have never done so before. I wonder how many of those people were just a few months ago talking about how no one needs a gun and now they are the ones buying something they said we didn't need? You know it's the same people!
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 01:14 pm
@McGentrix,
You and Ollie might as well feed at the Branco hog trough.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 01:59 pm
@oralloy,
So, what's the anti-First Amendment propaganda that Branco is alluding to?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 02:57 pm
@Baldimo,
Most of the people who buy guns and ammo are people who have bought guns and ammo before and always seem to have to have even more guns and ammo themselves to feel secure, which is why we have somewhere around one gun for every person in America but only about a third of americans owning a gun. Damned hoarders. Kinda baseless speculation on your part, baldimo, one of your specialties.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 03:09 pm
@oralloy,
The hardliners are the NRA brass too. Wayne Lapierre has a little talk with trump and he buckles even just on enhanced background checks, which is just about the most moderate gun control proposal you can have, in fact one supported by something around 2/3 of NRA members, as well as 90% plus of Americans.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 03:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
You aren't paying attention to what is going on, people who already have guns won't be buying guns during this time because of the price increases. The only people buying guns now are those who don't have them.

I know lots of people in the gun industry, and they are all reporting that it is non-gun owners who are now becoming gun owners.

RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 09:00 pm
@Baldimo,
Anything to back up this statement up with beside your word? I have found out over the years that you lie in order to make what you think is statement.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2020 10:10 pm
@Baldimo,
any evidence other than purely anecdotal? No? I thought not. Gunbunnies want their guns when they get fearful and want them, price increases or no.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 08:36 am
@RABEL222,
That's rich coming form someone who NEVER posts any source for their claims and then denies to read the stuff that is posted.

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2020/03/21/who-are-buying-all-these-guns/

 

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