Guns: how much longer will it take ....

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I was suggesting that you look up explanations for pistol grips on rifles

They're an ergonomic improvement. They're more comfortable. But anti-gun nuts want to push the idea that that comfort translates to increased deadliness. That's simple hysterics, as there is nothing to support that idea.

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I was suggesting that you look up explanations for pistol grips on rifles

They're an ergonomic improvement. They're more comfortable. But anti-gun nuts want to push the idea that that comfort translates to increased deadliness. That's simple hysterics, as there is nothing to support that idea.

What you're really saying is that if a shooter uses a rifle without a pistol grip, he's going to miss some of his targets, which is just as ridiculous as your belief about guns with pistol grips.

You believe what you believe about pistol grips not because it has been proven, but because you have been told it is true. As evidence of this kind of shortcoming when it comes to your critical thinking on this matter, we have your stated belief that AR-15s are the favored weapon of mass shooters. They are not. But you believed it was true because someone told you, and you didn't bother to do the necessary research to determine the accuracy of what you were told. And the reason you didn't want to do the research is because the lie you were told was in line with what you wanted to believe.

I'm saying that pistol grips help increase rate of fire and shooting accuracy.

I was referring to these types of weapons in general, not the AR-15 specifically. You have an AR-15 fixation.

Why don't you lay off of the b s and try to be rational?

There is a field manual that discusses the rate of fire and accuracy for the M1.

I'm saying that pistol grips help increase rate of fire

and shooting accuracy.

As evidence of this kind of shortcoming when it comes to your critical thinking on this matter, we have your stated belief that AR-15s are the favored weapon of mass shooters. They are not.

InfraBlue wrote:

There is a field manual that discusses the rate of fire and accuracy for the M1.

545 pages.

Are you contending that any part of this document supports a claim that pistol grips and/or collapsible stocks result in better accuracy?

If so, can you specify which part?

Your definition of "mass shooter" is suspect.

You certainly are aware of the use and -therefor- differences between a designated marksman rifle and a sniper rifle.

Heh, for someone that proffers their assertions as "the truth," you want me to point out to you where to look in my reference? That's pretty rich.