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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
saab
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 07:47 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
And you don´t project you feelings here?????????
I don´t believe that gunlovers can restrain themselves.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 07:54 pm
@saab,
saab wrote:


You suggested that Jews should have killed Nazi Germans.


I don't see any problem with his suggestion, none at all.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 07:58 pm
@saab,
Hmm I would assume that anyone is a SS uniform would be fair game.

And the Jews did fight well in the Warsaw ghetto uprising if memory serve me correctly in my old age.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 08:32 pm
@saab,
As the German Goverment as a government was in the business of killing jews I would also assume that any government employee from the local cop to even a DMV clerk would also be fair game under those set of conditions.

Anyone who in effect allow or aid the German government to function could be morally target as it was no secret what was happening to the jews by that state.
saab
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 08:36 pm
@BillRM,
Yes the Jews did fight well in the Warsaw ghetto after about 400 000 had died of starvation and illnesses. 56 000 died during the ghetto uprising.
You memory did not serve you very well as I already pointed this out some time ago.
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saab
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 08:43 pm
@BillRM,
You know what Read and Read and Read again about WWII - the history and what was going on in Germany and Europe but even better is you go back a bit further I would even suggest you start with WWI.
Your basic knowledge of the first half of the 20th century is not very good.
In case you are interested you could also include the history of USA in both WWI and WWII as you did bravely in both wars - you probably have forgotten that too.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2009 09:29 pm
@saab,
Not sure what you are talking about as your posting seem to be largely sense free. As I had not posted any details about that period of history on this thread it is interesting that you are coming to a conclusion that I lack knowledge of same.

Oh, you could add onto the people any Jew would had been morally free to kill such people as German railroad workers who jobs allow the millions of Jews to be transported to their death.

As the military would say that society was a very target rich environment. Of course the German people did end up paying a very high price for the misdeeds of their government and rightly so in my opinion.

Yes not even if the German Jewish community of the 1930s had happen to had been heavily arm they could not had stop themselves from being drag off to death camps however they could had raise the cost of so doing very high indeed and that price the SS and others would had needed to paid upfront.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 05:23 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Not sure what you are talking about as your posting seem to be largely sense free.


+1

That covers it.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 05:48 am

Common sense dictates citizens of sound mind should be armed and prepared to protect themselves and others.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 06:59 am
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ravrech/2009/04/07/%E2%80%9Cim-against-guns-and-violence-unfortunately-reality-has-intruded-on-my-delusional-paradise%E2%80%9D/

Excerpt...
Quote:

......There are a couple of hunters buying high-powered ammunition; they sound like Los Alamos scientists as they discuss the exquisite physics of various exotic slugs. It’s way beyond my comprehension.

Two Marines on leave are stocking up on rugged, combat-ready clips for their side-arms. Semper Fi.

There’s also a young Hispanic apartment manager who lives in a high-crime area. His wife just had a baby"Mazal Tov!"and he wants to protect his family from the local “desperadoes.”

I’m waiting my turn.

Protagonist

And so is a young woman who absolutely sticks out in the gun shop. She’s wearing a cream colored linen baby doll with blue grosgrain trim; on her feet, pink flip-flops that pop off alabaster skin. Her hair is the color of golden Kansas wheat. Mid-twenties, she’s an iconic all-American beauty who makes me flash to memories of a truly insane childhood crush: Tuesday Weld as Thalia Menninger on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.

Looking as if she’s on the edge of a meltdown, she paces, glances nervously at the display cases lined with gleaming rows of pistols and revolvers. She makes a move to exit the gun shop, then returns, as if yanked by a fishing reel.

“Excuse me, do you, do you know about guns?”

She’s even got that vulnerable, tremulous Tuesday Weld pitch to her voice.

And she is talking to yours truly.

“A bit.”

“I’m terrified of guns.”

I hold out my hands as if checking for rain.

“Sounds crazy, I know, thing is"do you think the salesmen are going to be much longer?”

“There’s tons of paperwork if you buy a gun.”

Her eyes dart about, then she just looks at me straight-on:

“Thing is, he’s going to kill me.”

Antagonist

That’s when she tells me about Ned; the evil, the obsessive, the ex-boyfriend.

Ned is a stalker, a human virus who has infected every aspect of her life.

She speaks of restraining orders:

“The thing about them is that people like Ned always find a way around them. He’s there on my computer. He’s a computer guy, for Chrissakes. He knows when I start going out with a new dude and he makes sure to tell the new one all sorts of trash about me. And d’you think the dude sticks around? No one wants that level of drama. I’ve moved twice already and he always finds me. Ned’s always there. Sometimes I wake up at night, go to my window and I’m telling you he’s watching me. Hey, I’m sorry for unloading on you. You must think I’m such a loser chick.”

“It’s fine. I feel awful for you. But it’s good you’re taking steps to protect yourself. It’s admirable. Men like Ned count on women being scared and defenseless.”

She pauses. Looks down at the display of guns.

Conflict

“I can’t believe I’m here. I’ve been against guns and violence my whole life.”..........
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 07:44 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:


“It’s fine. I feel awful for you. But it’s good you’re taking steps to protect yourself.
It’s admirable. Men like Ned count on women being scared and defenseless.”


PrezBO and his administration are just like Ned.
They are counting on American citizens being scared, defenseless and totally at the mercy of the government.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 08:39 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Hmm I would assume that anyone is a SS uniform would be fair game.

Anyone with an SS uniform would have been armed.

Since we all know that armed persons are less likely to be attacked and killed, wouldn't that mean it was LESS likely to shoot SS?

Or are you guys now arguing that it is EASIER to shoot armed victims?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 09:10 am
@H2O MAN,
The story ends in uncertainty. There was the question about the ten-day waiting thing in Californicatia and the author doesn't know whether or not the woman survived the ten days.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 11:55 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

The story ends in uncertainty. There was the question about the ten-day waiting thing
in Californicatia and the author doesn't know whether or not the woman survived the ten days.

I remember when the federal waiting period went into effect.
(It is ASTONISHING that this question can be a federal matter.
George Washington & James Madion woud have been AGHAST.)
There were 2 women, who were identified by name at the time,
in different states, who had been threatened with death by ex-husbands.
Consequently, thay both bought defensive guns.
One lived in a freedom friendly state, and had an instant check,
so she got her gun immediately.
The other threatened woman lived in an oppressive state,
with the full 7 day waiting period.

The first woman had her husband or ex-husband, who tho murderous,
was true to his word, and broke in thru a window with a knife
and tried to kill her, but was defeated by her shooting him to death.

The other woman had her approval arrive in the mail, on time,
after 7 days, but she had already been killed in an unarmed condition.
Her obedience to the gun control law must have been
a source of exultant delight to supporters of gun control,
but it proved that the penalty for obeying gun control laws is DEATH at the discretion of violent predators.




`
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 12:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You have a link to this, or is this one of those 'made-up' anecdotes?

Cycloptichorn
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 12:06 pm
@parados,
And robbers and rapists and a lot of other type of bad people are also likely to be arm and if the citizens are disarm then they become defenseless prey to such animals a condition you seem to wish to bring about for some strange reason.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 12:21 pm
@parados,
Oh as a side note you do know do you not that you can not disarm with all the power of government and all the courts and all the police and all the anti gun laws that could be pass in the next hundred years anyone who is willing to break the laws and go to the black market correct?

I f you can convine me otherwise and that there is some magic way of disarming people who we all agree should not be arm I myself will cheerfully hand in all my firearms.

Now what is your plan for disarming such people given that we have at the moment over 200 millions firearms in this country and even an old fashion blacksmith let alone a modern machine shop can turn out more if need be up to sub-machine guns?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 12:24 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

You have a link to this, or is this one of those 'made-up' anecdotes?

Cycloptichorn

I don t have one handy.
I do not post from a list of handy links.

There 's a chance that I might be able to find it.
I 'll see what I can do; this is going back to early or mid 1990s.


Incidentally, when u say: ". . . is this one of those 'made-up' anecdotes?"
are u calling me a liar ?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 12:32 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You have a link to this, or is this one of those 'made-up' anecdotes?

Cycloptichorn

I don t have one handy.
I do not post from a list of handy links.

There 's a chance that I might be able to find it.
I 'll see what I can do; this is going back to early or mid 1990s.


Incidentally, when u say: ". . . is this one of those 'made-up' anecdotes?"
are u calling me a liar ?


Not necessarily. But there's little use in vague anecdotes in online discussions, wouldn't you agree? You could have heard incorrectly, you could remember incorrectly, or you could be completely wrong.

I assume that you will be able to provide a link to a story such as this, if not this exact one.

Cycloptichorn
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 8 Apr, 2009 12:41 pm


Is it safe to assume Cyclo can research this on his or her own and report the findings?
 

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