Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

This has got to be one of the silliest posts even oralloy has ever done.

Hardly silly for me to point out what a great job President Trump is doing by protecting us from leftists who want to violate our Constitutional rights.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

That is precisely why there is such deep disgust with how the president is ******* the country over that he keeps losing the special elections that have come up, and why it is so important to deny him majorities in both houses of Congress, which is looking pretty probable now, thank the gods. Vote them out, lock them all up.

The only people who dislike President Trump's defense of the Second Amendment are leftists who are frustrated over the fact that he won't let them violate people's civil rights for fun.

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@coldjoint,

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One of the reasons Democrats only have a 6 pt. advantage. With the margin of error not ve ry much at all. mp will get the voters out, again.

You do realize, I trust, that Trump did not get the voters out last ime. He lost the vote. There is no electoral college to pull him out in 2018. The country is disgusted with him.

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@oralloy,

The people who actually violate constitutional rights are the people with guns who use those guns to sctually violate others' constitutional rights on average well over twp hundred times a day,every day of the year, year after year. The majority of the country who are demanding something be done about that unconstitutional carnage are not doing it for fun, I assure you. As long as you look the other way at those violations of constitutional rights, your words will be ignored.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You do realize, I trust, that Trump did not get the voters out last ime. He lost the vote. There is no electoral college to ull him out in 2018.

Trump is not even up for election in 2018.

Deciding control of Congress by way of a bunch of individual elections for individual congressmen has much the same effect as the electoral college. Perhaps even more so since in most cases the presidential electoral votes are assigned state-by-state, whereas House districts are subject to gerrymandering.

MontereyJack wrote:

The country is disgusted with him.

No. People who want to violate civil rights for fun, and who are frustrated at President Trump's defense of civil rights, are disgusted with him.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

The people who actually violate constitutional rights are the people with guns who use those guns to sctually violste others' constitutional rights on average well over twp hundred times a day, every day of the year, year after year.

When leftists run around violating people's rights for fun, that very much counts as violating their rights.

MontereyJack wrote:

The majority of the country who are demanding something be done about that unconstitutional carnage are not doing it for fun, I assure you.

Leftists are not demanding that anything be done about any carnage. Their demands are designed solely to violate civil rights without having any other effect.

And yes, when leftists demand to violate civil rights for no reason, it is because they think it is fun to violate people's rights.

MontereyJack wrote:

As long as you look the other way at those violations of constitutional rights, your words will be ignored.

President Trump isn't ignoring anything. He is actively preventing leftists from violating our rights.

That's why he is such a great president.

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@oralloy,

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President Trump isn't ignoring anything. He is actively preventing leftists from violating our rights.

That's why he is such a great president.

You and Trump are advocating lethal violation of 100,000 people's constitutional rights year. That is the true and concrete outcome of your actions. And that as the 2016 election demonstrated, is not even take into account the fact that the country takes issue with Trump's entire agenda, which as the 2016 election demonstrated is diametrically opposed to what the [eople want. Which is why he is detested and he must lose the legislators that enable him to push through his hated policies. Turn ALL the GOP .lickspittle lackeys out in November.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You and Trump are advocating lethal violation of 100,000 people's constitutional rights year. That is the true and concrete outcome of your actions.

That is incorrect. Since the gun control movement is not trying to save any lives, defeating the gun control movement is not costing any lives.

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This Is The Toughest Gun Law In America
Reformers love what Massachusetts is doing. The NRA? Not so much.

NEWTON, Mass. ― A thirtysomething man sought to buy a rifle here last September, and if he had been living in almost any other part of the country, he could have done so easily.

His record was free of arrests, involuntary psychiatric commitments or anything else that might automatically disqualify him from owning firearms under federal law. He could have walked into a gun store, filled out a form and walked out with a weapon in less than an hour.

But he couldn’t do that in Massachusetts because the state requires would-be buyers to get a permit first. That means going through a much longer process and undergoing a lot more scrutiny.

Each applicant must complete a four-hour gun safety course, get character references from two people, and show up at the local police department for fingerprinting and a one-on-one interview with a specially designated officer. Police must also do some work on their own, searching department records for information that wouldn’t show up on the official background check.

(HuffPost)

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Meaningful issues in the 2016 election in something like order of importance:

The peace and safety of the world (Putin had told his military that if Hildabeast won the election, they were basically at war) while Justin Raimondo at antiwar dot com had endorsed Trump due to Trump's long-time adversity to frivolous use of the US military.

The collapse of the Wall St./London banking and monetary system. Donald Trump was the only person in the picture with both the guts and the resources to take on the bankers. Bankers in fact fear DT enough to have had 54 private jets parked at an offshore resort for a stop-Trump-at-any-cost meeting:
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=54+private+jets+georgia+resort+trump&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Immigration (Hilda, George, and Bork Obunga want a total end to borders and mass importation of what they view as democrat voting blocks, the cost to the nation be damned).

Gangsterism ( Clinton Foundation, pay2play, Clinton body count, murders, rape allegations... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3426438/posts?page=25#25 )

Treaties and trade deals, returning meaningful industry to the United States.

Racism/victimology ( Soros/BLM, orchestrated riots...)

All of those issues (other issues in the election are relatively minor) strongly mitigated in favor of Donald Trump and against the Hildabeast.

Americans are used to gangsterism and racism; what NOBODY is used to or has ever seen before is nuclear or thermonuclear war and hydrogen bombs going off, that would be a new experience for everybody. Hilda had stated that her first priority on taking office would be to kill Bashir Al Assad and that would have started WW-III.

The ONLY rational reason there was for voting for the Hildeabeast would have been that you are worried about dying of cancer, old age or some other mundane cause, and wasnted to go out in a blaze of glory in some sort of a nuclear holocaust in which the whole human race goes out at the same time.

We had a God-given shot at electing a president who would put Wall St. into an absolute zero-leverage situation and we took it; had we blown that chance and particularly if we had blown it for any sort of an asinine reason, it would not recur in the lifetime of anybody alive today.

There is still the question is all the asshole snowflakes crying because they've just been saved from a nuclear war and holocaust. That is just ******* hard for rational/normal people to understand...

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@oralloy,

Vile nonsense.

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@MontereyJack,

Nope. As usual everything I said is completely true.

And that is why Trump is such a great president. He protects us all from leftists who hate freedom and want to violate our civil rights.

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@oralloy,

Trump is America's worst-ever president, not only because he is a completely corrupt liar who has consistently governed only for a quarter of the population but because he shields the hundred thousand people who violkate the constitutional civl righjts of Americans with their murderous use of their guns every year. That is why his lickspittle toadies must all be voted out of office in November.

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because he is corrupt

Why don't you prove that or quit saying it?

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@MontereyJack,

That's funny, the 2013 CDC study on violence stated that there were between 500,000 and 2.5 million defense gun uses in the US for the time period measured. This was a study that was put forth by Obama's EO/EA on gun violence.

So I would say that on the low end, 500,000 defense gun uses a year out weighs the 100,000 people who find themselves the victims of crimes.

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@MontereyJack,

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he shields the hundred thousand people who violkate the constitutional civl righjts of Americans with their murderous use of their guns every year.

Are you implying that there are 100,000 murders each year in the US due to gun violence?

It's funny, but when you look at where all the violence is, it's almost all in dem controlled area's. Why is the left so violent and murderous?

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WORLD MURDER STATISTICS

From the World Health Organization

The latest Murder Statistics for the world:

Murders per 100,000 citizens per year.

Honduras 91.6 (WOW!!)

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guy ana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

The United States 4.2 !!!!!

ALL (109) of the countries above America,
HAVE 100% gun bans.

It might be of interest to note that SWITZERLAND is not shown on this list, because it has...NO MURDER OCCURRENCE!

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@Baldimo,

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Are you implying that there are 100,000 murders each year in the US due to gun violence?

Another example from him that shows how little he knows.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Trump is America's worst-ever president,

You're just like the people who hated Lincoln. And history will treat you the same way it treats them.

MontereyJack wrote:

he shields the hundred thousand people who violkate the constitutional civl righjts of Americans with their murderous use of their guns every year.

Trump has not protected a single murderer.

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The US has more Gun Owners than the world has Soldiers.

There is no military force on the planet that could take on the American People.

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