Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@Blickers,

In this whole diatribe, you made up something I never said and argued from that point. Try again.

@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Any other brilliant observations you care to make about the right of Londoners to control their spike in knife attacks?

I think it is shameful that they abolished freedom for no reason. I feel bad for those Brits who yearn for the freedom that they once had.

My views on Australia are much the same.

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@oralloy,

The Brits think you,re wacko. Australians too. Their position on that is perfectly understandable.

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@MontereyJack,

Serfs always have that reaction to free people. It's sad.

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Is it just me, or has this conversation devolved into what I imagine a 'Dungeon and Dragons' nerd-fest might resemble.

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@glitterbag,

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Is it just me, or has this conversation devolved into what I imagine a 'Dungeon and Dragons' nerd-fest might resemble.

The closest this gets to a D&D game is that you make **** up like a Dungeon Master would.

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@glitterbag,

I was in a few Dungeons and Dragons nerd fests back in the day, and they were nothing like this.

This is more of a "liberals not liking civil rights and conservatives resolutely defending freedom" type of situation.

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@oralloy,

On the contrary. Serfs hate their position and re4gularly rebel. The Brits know they;re free and you're wacko and are very glad you're not on their side of the water.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

On the contrary. Serfs hate their position and re4gularly rebel.

That is incorrect. Serfs proclaim that serfdom is good and wonder why free people refuse to give up their freedom.

MontereyJack wrote:

The Brits know they;re free

Free people have the right to have guns for personal self defense. If any Brits think that they are free then they are delusional.

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If any Brits think that they are free then they are delusional.

I think that is more than clear, when there is nothing but denial about their country's future and the end of free speech.

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@Baldimo,

Quote Baldimo:

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In this whole diatribe, you made up something I never said and argued from that point. Try again.

Well then, let's see what you said about London's proposed ban on knives for carrying:

Quote Baldimo:

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Well, if the problem was young people doing this and not older people, I would have a problem with it. I carry a knife every day, not for defense reasons but knifes are a handy thing to have on you. So they would restrict me a 44 year old man from carrying a knife when the majority of these fools are between the age of 14-21.

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Having legislation that limits ages, is not "getting around" legislation, we already have such laws in place. There is no age limit here in CO for carrying a knife, kids can't have them in school. You can be 18 and purchase a long gun/shotgun and 21 to buy a handgun. This is actually how "common sense" laws should work.
We also have other types of age laws on other items. Alcohol, is one of those. You have to be 21 to belly up to a bar or buy from the store, but in some states it is legal to give your 16 year old a beer in a restaurant if they are with their parents. Is this a way of getting around alcohol laws?

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not all adults have had the same laws. If you are between the age of 18-20, you can't purchase or carry a handgun. People in that age group can join the military and go die on foreign soil, but they can't own a handgun.

For somebody claiming I made up the idea that you were proposing making weapons ownership vary according to age-like one law for adults under 40 and another for adults over 40-you certainly spent a lot of time defending the idea. Sorry, your posture of being unfairly attacked does not pass examination.

Making different laws for children and for adults is one thing. Breaking adulthood up into several more age categories with different laws to match is madness. Madness you seem to have indicated you don't think is a bad idea.

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@Blickers,

Yes, your made up post does not say what I was saying. Try reading it again without your leftist filter and try again. Just like the stupid comment "why do they need machete's, they don't live in a jungle." No one was talking about machete's except you.

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@oralloy,

Quote oralloy:

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I think it is shameful that they abolished freedom for no reason. I feel bad for those Brits who yearn for the freedom that they once had.

My views on Australia are much the same.

They are free to vote, free to assemble and air grievances, free to call the legislators and other public officials nasty names and advocate their ouster by legal means as soon as possible. Just like us. They are free.

The only difference is that their murder rate is one quarter of ours.

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@Baldimo,

As a machete is sort of long knife, I pointed out that the need for carrying a large knife in crowded London, (as opposed to a place where people need to cut away brush to travel from one place to another), is hardly necessary. Sorry if you had difficulty following the concept.

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@Blickers,

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They are free to vote, free to assemble and air grievances,....

and their social media is monitored and people are fined or jailed for airing their grievances. Plus they ban people from their country because they are intimidated by Islam and its use of violence. These people, who you say are free, are being led to their slaughter.

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@Blickers,

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As a machete is sort of long knife, I pointed out that the need for carrying a large knife in crowded London, (as opposed to a place where people need to cut away brush to travel from one place to another), is hardly necessary. Sorry if you had difficulty following the concept.

You used a ridiculous example that no one was talking about to try and make a point. No one was talking about machete's, only you were.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

They are free to vote, free to assemble and air grievances, free to call the legislators and other public officials nasty names and advocate their ouster by legal means as soon as possible. Just like us.

They do not however have the right to have guns for personal self defense. Free people have that right.

Blickers wrote:

They are free.

That is incorrect. Free people have the right to have guns for personal self defense.

Blickers wrote:

The only difference is that their murder rate is one quarter of ours.

The lack of freedom is a major difference.

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It would appear the good people of Vermont are not free anymore...

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Vermont on Wednesday raised the age to buy firearms, banned high-capacity magazines and made it easier to take guns from people who pose a threat — the first significant gun ownership restrictions in state history, signed into law by the Republican governor.

It's a remarkable turnaround for the largely rural state that traditionally has refused to impose restrictions on gun ownership.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

It would appear the good people of Vermont are not free anymore...

They still have the right to have guns that are suitable for self defense.

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Vermont on Wednesday raised the age to buy firearms,

For people that have not taken a Vermont hunter safety course.

People who have passed a Vermont hunter safety course are exempt from the age requirements.

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banned high-capacity magazines

Their law says that handgun magazines are only high capacity if they hold more than 15 rounds.

And their law allows people to keep any high capacity magazines that they already own.

Since there are no dates or manufacturing numbers stamped on magazines, it is easy enough for people to go buy new high capacity magazines out of state and then say that they've owned them for the past 30 years.

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