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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 06:57 pm
@gungasnake,
I wouldn't bet on it if I were you
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:04 pm
@Baldimo,
Emma Gponzalez has gotten twice as many followers on Facebook in five weeks as the NRA has gotten in five years. Dick's Sporting Gpopds saw its foot traffic INCREASE after it announced it was stopping selling assault-style weapons. There's a sea change hsppening.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:26 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
I do not own a gun, yet, but now I am going to get one before I cannot. This is the straw that broke the back and will make finally get one.

I was going to wait until I was a little older when I can't physically take care of trouble. Not really having more than a couple of fist fights left in me anyway. And like many Americans I will feel safer.

Also I know how to handle a gun. Of all terrible things parents can do, my father taught me. Shocked

Try to find a store that sells assault weapons, even if that isn't the kind of gun that you choose to buy.

Store owners who help the liberals ban guns that we have the right to have, need to be boycotted out of the gun business altogether.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Emma Gponzalez has gotten twice as many followers on Facebook in five weeks as the NRA has gotten in five years.

How many of the whiny brats live in and vote in districts that are represented by pro-gun legislators?

Zero, right?


MontereyJack wrote:
Dick's Sporting Gpopds saw its foot traffic INCREASE after it announced it was stopping selling assault-style weapons.

How many of these people were there to buy guns?

Zero again, right?

How long before Dick's Sporting Goods exits the firearms business altogether?


MontereyJack wrote:
There's a sea change hsppening.

Meh.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:33 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
There's a sea change hsppening.

Thanks for the warning, I'll get some rubber boots with my gun.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:34 pm
@oralloy,
I agree with you here Oralloy. Fewer gun sellers is not a bad thing here.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:41 pm
@maporsche,
A meme for you.
https://i2.wp.com/1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmLyfT-aU8c/UN9aevtjx5I/AAAAAAAAHKY/tOqU3az0-gs/s1600/gandhi-was-for-guns-not-control.jpg?resize=584%2C332
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 07:50 pm
@coldjoint,
Learn about www.gunbroker.com and how to use it.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 07:41 am
Quote:

Less than a week after 17 people died in Parkland, Fla., right-wing provocateur Dinesh D’Souza began taunting some of the teenage survivors of the massacre. “Worst news since their parents told them to get summer jobs,” he tweeted on Feb. 20, commenting on a photo showing Parkland survivors crying as state legislators voted down a bill to ban military-style weapons.

D’Souza wrote another tweet, “Adults, 1, kids 0.” Combined, the two tweets have more than 25,000 likes and 8,000 retweets.

Now, five weeks after the Parkland school shooting, D’Souza’s tweets seem almost quaint. As Emma González, David Hogg and the other Parkland teens fighting for gun control have become viral liberal heroes, the teens are villains on the right-wing Internet and fair game for the mockery and attacks that this group usually reserves for its adult enemies.

That infamy reached a wider audience this past weekend around the time of their March for Our Lives protest, when a doctored image that showed González ripping up a copy of the U.S. Constitution (she actually ripped up a gun target) went mildly viral on the Trump-supporting parts of the Internet, defended as “satire” by those who shared it.

Here’s a look back at how the Parkland student activists became such a target:

Day 1: Conspiracy theorists

The first to target the Parkland students were the conspiracy theorists. When a mass shooting like Parkland happens, conspiracy theorists begin to search for signs of a false flag — proof that the shooting was actually staged and/or carried out for political reasons — pretty much right away. They’re following what online trolling expert Whitney Phillips calls a “tragedy script”: The establishment is trying to take away your guns, they’ll use mass shootings to do that, and here are the tricks they use to manipulate the public. Anything irregular becomes conspiracy fodder.

An anonymous 8chan user told the fringe chat board to look for “crisis actors” just 47 minutes after the shooting happened. And if closed chat rooms and fringey boards such as 8chan, 4chan and some subreddits on Reddit are where conspiracy theorists coordinate, then Twitter is where those conspiracy theories — and the harassment that comes with them — are performed for the public. Within hours, anonymous Twitter users were in the mentions of students tweeting from their classrooms during the shooting, accusing them of being part of the conspiracy:

One Twitter thread, made just after midnight on the night of the attack, claimed to contain “Bombshell” information about Parkland. @Magapill (an account once approvingly retweeted by President Trump) shared a video interview with a student that has become the basis of a debunked Parkland conspiracy theory. The thread was retweeted more than 3,000 times.

All this happened before the Parkland students calling for gun control began their ascent to viral iconography. When they emerged, the campaign to discredit and debunk the Parkland students expanded.

Week 2: #MAGA Internet

“EXPOSED: School Shooting Survivor Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines,” read a headline on Gateway Pundit. The article was one of a handful on far-right publications to emerge after the first weekend following the shooting.
Hogg, along with González, had found their voices. In one CNN interview, the pair called for the National Rifle Association to “disband.” That interview was on the Monday after the attack. By Tuesday, an aide to Florida state Rep. Shawn Harrison (R-Tampa) was fired for telling a reporter that Hogg and González were “not students … but actors.” As evidence, the aide sent the reporter one of several YouTube videos promoting that conspiracy theory.

Even a former U.S. congressman, Jack Kingston, joined in on Twitter: “O really? ‘Students’ are planning a nationwide rally? Not left-wing gun control activists using 17yr kids in the wake of a horrible tragedy? #Soros #Resistance #Antifa #DNC”

The conspiracy spread quickly, and the algorithms noticed. Soon, a video claiming that Hogg was an actor was the No. 1 trending video on YouTube.

Week 3: Fights with social media companies

In early March, the conspiracy Internet — and some of its Trump supporters — turned the conspiracy theories surrounding the Parkland students into a crusade against what they saw as censorship on major Silicon Valley platforms.

After a conspiracy video trended on YouTube, the platform cracked down on videos and creators who were promoting the false belief that the Parkland students were hired actors or reading from scripts to promote gun control. Enter Alex Jones.

Jones’s main YouTube channel has more than 2 million subscribers, and he made several videos about Hogg, such as “David Hogg Can’t Remember His Lines In TV Interview,” in the weeks after the shooting.

After CNN reported that the channel was 2 strikes away from a YouTube ban for violating the platform’s community guidelines, Jones started talking about censorship. He claimed his channel was about to be deleted (it wasn’t); he fundraised to support a fight against his enemies. This blitz became a week-long news cycle that captured the attention of Infowars’ supporters and opponents alike.

March for Our Lives: The memes go mainstream

On the eve of the March for Our Lives, the NRA delivered a message to the Parkland students who organized it: “No one would know your names” if a gunman hadn’t killed 17 people at their school, said a host on NRATV.

The Parkland teens, as they took on such a polarizing issue, were always going to have opponents — including from more conservative Parkland students who also survived the massacre. But the deeply personal, conspiracy-minded attacks targeting Hogg, González and their fellow classmate activists have gone from the conspiracy fringes to a larger audience.

And after the viral image of González ripping up the Constitution, Rep. Steve King’s campaign Facebook page (R-Iowa) shared a mocking meme about her. The post refers to a patch of the Cuban flag on her jacket worn during the march:

“This is how you look when you claim Cuban heritage yet don’t speak Spanish and ignore the fact that your ancestors fled the island when the dictatorship turned Cuba into a prison camp, after removing all weapons from its citizens; hence their right to self defense.”


WP
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 08:52 am
@revelette1,
dinesh D'Souza-25,,000 followers
Emma Gonzalez-3,000,000

says it all right there.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 09:16 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
dinesh D'Souza-25,,000 followers
Emma Gonzalez-3,000,000


Crap over substance, no surprise at all.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 10:02 am
@coldjoint,
Ive read dsouzas crap since the 80s abd find crap an accurate term for it all.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 11:22 am
Dinesh D'Souza is a brilliant analyst and the author of the first book ("Illiberal Education") ever to describe the problems with political correctness in American universities. The book describes the story of presidents of both Cal Berkeley and Stanford being shitcanned over PC stupidity.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 12:50 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Ive read dsouzas crap since the 80s abd find crap an accurate term for it all.

Well, that right there should change everyone's opinion. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2018 03:18 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
dinesh D'Souza-25,,000 followers
Emma Gonzalez-3,000,000

says it all right there.

He made a truly awesome tweet:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWg4XOTVoAAE1s6.jpg
http://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/966078572321562625

Twitter perfection.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 07:40 am
@oralloy,
Utter stupidity. But then that's all Dinesh has posted since the 70s. A million people worldwide agreed with the kParkland survivors last weekend. How manhy lpeoploe agreed with Dsouza. Join Justice ;John Paul Stevens. Repeal the fatally flawed Second Amendment. Stop the murders of innocents it is abetting.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 08:27 am
@oralloy,
Most of what you speak is BS propaganda derived from your benevolent NRA overlords. Very few people want to see the 2nd Amendment repealed. You DO realize that, in its pre zany days , the NRA represented such things as weapons control, sportsmanship, and gun safety(content in the knowledge that the 2nd amendment was an established RIGHT of INDIVIDUALS listed in our Bill of Rights in the US Constitution. Yet, as justice Scalia said"The second amendment is not infinite"
Your miscasting and bumbled name-calling at folks like me will prompt several of those as zealous as you (except on the other side), to engage in a political hyperbole similar to yours.Thus both of you sound unrealistically bound to some myth.
Using terms like "freedom haters" and other such BW is rather childish in its scope.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 09:07 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Most of what you speak is BS propaganda derived from your benevolent NRA overlords.


Most of what he says comes from the founding fathers. You have forgotten or never believed in what they said and carefully planned to make this country viable and unbelievably successful.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 10:12 am
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Parkland survivor Sinead O’Connor, also known as Emma Gonzalez, is on video admitting to not only bullying and ostracizing the Parkland shooter, but that she was justified in doing so. Lots to dive into on this one, so let’s roll tape:


Pot meet kettle.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/parkland-survivor-admits-to-bullying-the-shooter-and-shes-not-sorry/
 

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