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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 03:13 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
What makes you clowns...


...think this is nothing more than a political issue for the midterms, attaching Republicans and the NRA to mass murderers. Remember:



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The reality is this movement has little capacity or desire keep our children safe. If safety was the object, there would be a focus on the sham that is the Broward Sheriff’s Office (BSO). BSO had officers on stand down while children were being murdered. The BSO worked with the Broward County School District (BCSD) to sandbag crime statistics by not arresting juveniles for certain crimes (as they failed to arrest the Florida shooter earlier) to “qualify for lucrative state and federal grants.” We call B.S., Sheriff Israel. The spin is never ending, there is nothing that progressives will not deny, obfuscate, or misrepresent.


There is fact we can discuss, the FACT this could have been prevented.
https://amgreatness.com/2018/03/25/reject-the-march-for-our-lives/
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 03:14 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
and the youngest and newest voters


Are the easiest to manipulate, that is all progressives care about.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 03:29 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Lies based on an inept understanding of how our democratic republic works.

The fact that we have civil rights here in America is not a lie.

I note your inability to point out anything about the function of our republic that I am wrong about.


farmerman wrote:
The Constitution does not believe like your crowd.

The Constitution forbids you from violating our rights whether you like it or not.


farmerman wrote:
There is no longer any abrogation of conflicting rights,

Rights don't really conflict. That's just nonsense concocted to make it sound like it's OK to violate people's rights.


farmerman wrote:
no annulment of my rights just because you are all sexually aroused by uncontrolled access to guns of all kinds.

Bigoted stereotypes show that you have no real argument.

And no one is annulling your rights. You are merely prevented from violating other people's rights.


farmerman wrote:
Seldom right

Says the person who can't point out anywhere where I'm wrong.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 03:32 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
when you begin discussing them, lemme know, Ill respond.

He's been discussing facts all along.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 04:09 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

farmerman wrote:

My vote cancels yours.


and the youngest and newest voters are a whole different bag from most people in the 30 - 55 range. it's like the new candidates that are coming onboard - whole new game.


You guys forget about the tens of thousands of youth that live in rural America that enjoy the outdoors and like to hunt and fish. The ones that will be joining the military, the ones that have to get jobs when they graduate high school, they too will vote. Do you think they will vote to curtail their own rights as Americans?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 04:19 pm
@McGentrix,
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Do you think they will vote to curtail their own rights as Americans?

If they are lied to and shamed by their peers they might. Progressives will make sure that happens. Social constructionists ideas have failed. Since they cannot talk people into the crap believe they pursue legislation to force people to do what they wish. And to do that lying, cheating, manufacturing crisis is necessary but still transparent to any objective thinker.

The young voters have to know the individual means 0 to progressives. Individual means individual rights. And, frankly, they just can't have that.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 04:29 pm
Basic reality... You want to outlaw semiauto firearms in America??

Here's the proposition: Any shotguns, archery equipment, or bolt or lever action rifles I might own are for ducks and deer; I am not aware of any even halfway reasonable case which anybody could make against me owning anything like that.

The purpose of any semiauto weapons I might own is to allow me to feel safe about living in the United States when demoKKKrats are in control of our government such as was the case for the eight years prior to late January of 2017.

That's the deal: Outlaw and ban the demoKKKrat party and bring its criminal leadership echelon to justice, and I'll be happy to give up the semiauto stuff.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 04:35 pm
Any one see Farmerman? I think that the facts he will not discuss might have something to do with this strange disappearance.

This might get him back to call me names, I really do not expect any more than that.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 07:06 pm
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29511785_10215400605585598_6194837102903951360_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGrdGPjVPLE88gO8yjvuMfikCZqIvYRAtDWnfxeHf0rjp5sjA3yMevOL2gDV9Pc85ZbyYA6FLcx-NZc0ZMoy0fDNYHIBLlIT_M0Qdk45SWBgg&oh=d30856bbfa996ccafccdcd83068f8de8&oe=5B364F6F
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 07:16 pm
@gungasnake,
No one is going to mug or rape those girls, or their mother.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:15 pm
@gungasnake,
More of your usual bullshit. I'll tell you what liberals think when we see that picture. Their parentscould pose them with stethoscopes and microscopes., because they were learning to heal the sick and maybe find a cure for cancer. They could pose with scientific pocket calculators, T squares and drafting tools because they were learning how to build bridges and beautifl buildings and repair our crumbling infrastructure. Instead they're posed with assault rifle wannabes because their parents are teaching them how to kill. What a ******* waste.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:22 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Any one see Farmerman? I think that the facts he will not discuss might have something to do with this strange disappearance.
Im sorry that I didnt keep you informed of our dinner arrangements. We met some friends and had a great time discussing spring plantings and vacation plans.
Im now going to watch the 2017 version of " Murder on the OrientExpress " so carry on with a belief that I should give a **** about your posts.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:24 pm
@MontereyJack,
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parents are teaching them how to kill.

Conversely, they could being training them to defend themselves and their family. It works both ways. Next.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:29 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
so carry on with a belief that I should...


discuss facts.
You have continued to prove my point with every post since I posted it..
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sceletera
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:29 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy,
Do you agree with this statement?
Quote:
There seems to us no doubt, on the basis of both text and history, that the Second Amendment conferred an individual right to keep and bear arms. Of course the right was not unlimited, just as the First Amendment's right of free speech was not, see, e.g., United States v. Williams, 553 U.S. 285, 128 S.Ct. 1830, 170 L.Ed.2d 650 (2008). Thus, we do not read the Second Amendment to protect the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as we do not read the First Amendment to protect the right of citizens to speak for any purpose.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:36 pm
@coldjoint,
True democracy is government of the people, by the people, for the people.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 08:39 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
True democracy is government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Wrong again. Look at the super majority in Islamic countries and then think back to what the founders said about the tyranny of the majority, then back to those countries and look at their minorities.

Remember, in democracy the majority rules and they just might want you dead.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 09:00 pm
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Media Incorrectly Parrots “March For Our Lives” Organizers’ Crowd Estimate

Another strike for the dishonest, or just plain lazy, or both media.
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They’re off by about 600,000

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The peak crowd size was 202,796 people, with a margin of error of 15 percent, the firm said. The crowd reached its largest size at 1 p.m., according to the company’s estimates.........
That didn’t stop many media outlets from hyping the organizers’ much higher estimate.


Is their an honest person in the whole bunch?
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/03/media-incorrectly-parrots-march-for-our-lives-organizers-crowd-estimate/







McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2018 09:43 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

True democracy is government of the people, by the people, for the people.


No one wants true Democracy in America. We want our representational Republic to stay as it is. Ask California when "the people" voted against gay marriage... they couldn't get rid of "true democracy" fast enough.
 

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