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LIMBAUGH, "I HOPE HE FAILS..."

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 10:18 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
Let 's try it THIS WAY, Farmer:
at the end of the Weimar Republic an economy was at risk.
An articulate, charismatic fellow promised to fix the economy.
Most woud agree that he SUCCEEDED in effecting
a stronger economy than the Weimar Republic had.

Do u think it was worth it ?

If anyone had wished that he 'd fail,
woud that have been unconscionable ?

I wanna hear this


Youre right, I didnt catch it




Arent you being overdramatic Dave?
I dont believe Rush has a "Hitler detector" as you imply.
Hes just a buffoon with a radio show.
HE embodies all that is harmful when celebrity meets responsibility.

Tell ya what, Im going to listen to Limbaugh for a few days and Ill report back ANYTHING he says that can be construed as a positive suggestion or a solution to help the country out of the mess that his party of choice was recently instrumental in creating.

Ill bet that's not what hes made of.
He just likes yelling fire in a crowded theater.

As to being overly dramatic,
I am not declaring that obama is going to put the whites
in concentration camps, nor going to put non-marxists in concentration camps,
nor that America 's economy will resemble Germany at the end of 1945.

I only meant to address & examine the principles at hand, to wit:
either it woud have been right or it woud have been rong
to sound off, in warning, at the end of the Weimar Republic.

That woud correspond to sounding off toward the end of W 's Administration.


Tho I am retired, with time on my hands, it has not occurred to me
to tune in his radio show since around the mid-1990s.
I visited his TV show once, with some friends of mine,
and I gave him a book to read, but I accept somewhere
around maybe 2/3 of what he has said ( that I know of ).

I m not boycotting him.
I just don t think about him ofen.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 10:30 am
What I heard Rush say in Foxfyre 's posted video
on this thread, was perfectly reasonable.
I woud expect the average American to agree with it.
To me, that did not seem controversial.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 11:00 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
What I heard Rush say in Foxfyre 's posted video
on this thread, was perfectly reasonable.

Agreed. However, what Foxy posted was produced a day or so later, after Limbaugh had gone on the air with his hate sppech. OE posted part of the transcript of Limbaughs original show. His statement did not come off as an "if and olny if" condition, he wanted Obama to fail , period.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 11:12 am
@farmerman,
I disagree with your signature motto, Farmer:
" YOU CANNOT REASON WITH ANYONE
WHOS BELIEFS ARE NOT INITIALLY ARRIVED AT BY REASON
. "
I have done it.
My mind goes back to a sad story maybe ten years ago.
I knew a fellow in his later middle age.

In his affect, he was a quiet soul with a pleasant personality
and a fairly decent mind. He taught school (driver 's ed.),
was a part-time fire dept. volunteer, part-time deputy sheriff
and a few other things. I knew him for several years b4
he told of getting a massive heart attack.
He agreed with that fact.

He subsequently became afflicted with a hallucination.
Presumably, this resulted either from anoxia,
or from the chemistry that was post-surgically Rxed for him.
He thought that he can see small animals that no one else can see.

I reasoned that he was built from the same DNA as the rest of us humans.
He agreed. That meant that his eyes were structurally the same
as other humans' eyes: he agreed. I reasoned that in human history,
many men have had heart attacks and we know from that,
that a man 's vision does not improve by his getting a heart attack.

I reasoned that therefore, logically this MUST BE
a hallucination of his, presumably resulting either from
mental oxygen starvation during the heart atttack,
or from mental disturbances caused by the interaction
of his many medications. He coud see the logic of that,
tho he also saw the subject matter of his hallucination.

I believe a movie was made some years ago on this subject:
A Beautiful Mind about a brilliant Nobel Prize winning
mathematician who fell into hallucinations and used reason
to distinguish reality from illusion.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 11:24 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
What I heard Rush say in Foxfyre 's posted video
on this thread, was perfectly reasonable.

Agreed. However, what Foxy posted was produced a day or so later, after Limbaugh had gone on the air with his hate sppech. OE posted part of the transcript of Limbaughs original show. His statement did not come off as an "if and olny if" condition, he wanted Obama to fail , period.

Will u agree that it is reasonable
for someone to explain what he said,
at greater length a few days later ?

I know for sure that when I have written something,
I have had occasion to edit it thereafter, not being satisfied
with how well I had expressed something,
and possibly to refine the accuracy of what I had originally said.
That has happened many, many times.
I don 't always get it perfect the first time I try.

I don 't think that 's reprehensible.

To me, that seems common to the human condition.



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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 10:13 pm
Limbaugh has shown himself to be unpatriotic in his desire that our elected president fail to save the country and the world from the economic avalanche triggered in good part by the Republican administration. He is unquestionably an ideologue who sees Obama's efforts as little more than an effort to install socialism in America, even if that "socialism" consists of institutions and policies that would benefit the vast majority. He is also probably afraid that Obama's success would mean a major blow against the credibility of conservative values and policies. But isn't it obvious that Bush's eight years of destructive policies have already done that?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 01:45 am
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

Limbaugh has shown himself to be unpatriotic in his desire that our elected president fail to save the country and the world from the economic avalanche triggered in good part by the Republican administration. He is unquestionably an ideologue who sees Obama's efforts as little more than an effort to install socialism in America, even if that "socialism" consists of institutions and policies that would benefit the vast majority. He is also probably afraid that Obama's success would mean a major blow against the credibility of conservative values and policies. But isn't it obvious that Bush's eight years of destructive policies have already done that?

What IS obvious
is that your response is fraught with chaos n confusion.
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genoves
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 02:45 am
@JLNobody,
JL Nobody- I think you have not read very widely. You comment on Rush Limbaugh's response--"I hope that he fails" and infer that his comment is that of an ideologue.

It is apparent that you know nothing about the vicious and personalremarks made by the sub-humans at Move On .Org. and other Anti-Bush sites.

People like Limbaugh would have to go a long way to match the vile and adolescent adhominem remarks made by Move On.org over President Bush's eight year tenure.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 05:00 am
@genoves,
Limbaugh is merely irresponsible because he is aware that he has the medium of radio at his disposal and he can be as destructive as he can. Hes able to spread his own brand of hate to millions of his faithful. The "extreme ranks" of the GOP (that portion that Limbaugh represents), must be thinking their next moves since the elction of the new GOP party head. Steele is not an idealogue and is merely a fiscal conservative without (so far) embodying the hate and viciousness that was so common during the last regime.
I see that the new "tonic" for GOP is to distance themselves from the religious fanatics and anti-science types, and , instead focus on core GOP policies that are still alive in the party in states from NY to Md.

MAybe Rush will have to realign his rudder to become more in line with the (apparent) new direction that the party will be steering.

REpublicans need to understand that they used to be fairly mainstream before they became the party of "selective hate" and "religious purity"

Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 05:38 am
You are aware that you are conversing with the Possum, Massagato, aren't you, FM?
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 05:54 am
@Setanta,
No I wasnt, Is this the A2K "shape shifter" I keep hearing about?
Isnt that folk quite demented?

Oh well, even Jeffrey Daumer made sense once and a while.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 05:55 am
Yeah, this is his latest incarnation.

Even a stopped clock shows the right time twice a day . . .
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 09:26 am
@Setanta,
Poor Possum. If a troll falls in the forest and everyone ignores it, does it still make a sound?

http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/DeadPossum.jpg
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 09:27 am
Wicked, Joe . . . you're doing very well with possum images lately . . .
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 09:50 am
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

Poor Possum.

http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/DeadPossum.jpg


Government employees using tax payer money to make our roads safer.
It will only get worse and you will be that Possum if PrezBO's socialist plan is adopted.

I hope he fails!

http://www.athenswater.com/images/PrezBO.jpg
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 10:56 am
@H2O MAN,
Keep it up, Waterboy. Your impotent rage amuses me.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 01:59 pm
@joefromchicago,


That's interesting because your ignorance pains me...

http://www.athenswater.com/images/PrezBO.jpg
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 03:32 pm
@H2O MAN,
Your pain also amuses me.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 03:43 pm
@joefromchicago,


You are the typical liberal
ass clown and nothing special.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/PrezBO.jpg
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 03:56 pm
@H2O MAN,
But I think you are special, Waterboy.

http://www.legionxxiv.org/trooper124/124novavadar.jpg

H20MAN (center) accompanied by Dick Cheney (left) and unidentified minion of evil (right)
 

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