Let's get rid of the Electoral College

Be frank and come to the point: Your understanding is a huge deviation of the tranditional definition of progressive.
This deviation apparently leads to confusion and frustration about the ideology you are making efforts to establish.

For what you are trying to describe is de facto false progressives.
So better use another word or use "false progressives" instead.

Oralloy is an extraordinarily biased far-right wing ideologue.

His opinion of progressives bears very little resemblance to what progressives actually believe or practice. Don't trust what he says about them as anything other than his own imaginings.

You're as delusional about what progressives do and want as oraloy is.

What did the terrorists call themselves in 911 Attacks? They called themselves as jihadists and so by your logic, you and Oralloy would call them as jihadists? Can you see how wrong you are? They were terrorists! Call them terrorists straightaway and reasonable and innocent people will understand you very well.

Again, it's purely your imagination that preogressives are socialists or communists. You're wrong.

Some do have some socialist ideas but then so does the us government and the us public,, ideas which have been generally accepted american beliefs for decades, like social security and the VA. And Americans for decades want socialized "medicine".

like single-payer, which works in every first world country, costs half of what we pay, and covers everyone, which trump himself touted as the best until he became president. You're still stuck in pre-WorldWarI thinking.

joint is stuck too in far right wing cospiracy theorizing with no idea of who or what progressives are.

MontereyJack is correct pointing out that coldjoint is as delusional about what progressives do and want as oraloy is.

Both coldjoint and oralloy sillily attack progressives on the ground that violent anarchists say they are progressives.

I don't believe that CJ and Ollie can be as stupid as their posts indicate.

Look at how much of the discussion is taken up by these two repeating their lies until they might influence some of the people here.

Most of criminals claim they are "innocent", and so you and oralloy would attack the innocent, because you are following your delusional logic.

With only a few anarchists going violent and claiming that they are "progressives", and so you and oralloy attack progressives, because you are following your ridiculous logic.

Proof of my contention that CJ and Ollie are paid consertive republican operatives.