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Palin is a very clever distraction.

 
 
DrewDad
 
Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:01 am
Is it just me, or is no one paying attention to McCain any more?

With all the media attention focused on Palin, it appears to me that McCain gets a much-needed break.

Will the distraction continue, or will attention return to McCain?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:04 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Is it just me?


It's just you.

McCain & Palin are garnering much attention and the polls reflect this with gains.

On the other hand, liberals don't seem to be paying attention to Obama and that old white guy he picked for VP...

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:12 am
clever for those who value political game playing. But isn't it that Americans who whine constantly that they hate the political games of Washington, that those who go to Washington an play these games have been "corrupted"?? But then when politicians play these kind of games the masses eat it up. Smart politicians like Mccain ignore what people say they want, they feed us what we want. The jury is still out on Obama, whether he knows this basic principle

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MCharcoal
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:27 am
@DrewDad,
Drewdad, isn't that ALWAYS the way of it? The ATTRACTIVE get noticed, don't think it has much to do with their abilities in the Executive Office.
Remember Jackie Kennedy? John F. was a beloved president to many ,
but Jackie, her childbirths, her losses, AND her 'style' were in the NEWS a lot!

Another 'attention getter' comes to mind. Remember when Quayle was the number one joke? GHWB never got that kind of coverage except viewed from behind when we were supposed to be 'reading his hips.' (smile)
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:45 am
this election is a perfect example of why, although a good idea, government of the people by the people and for the people can't work long term. the people aren't bright enough and are too easily manipulated and distracted.
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:47 am
The only form of government with a chance of working would be a 100% benevolent dictatorship. Anyone see any real live deities lately?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:49 am
@Bi-Polar Bear,
it might rather be an argument against universal suffrage. Maybe there needs to be standards that the citizen needs to meet before they are allowed to vote.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 11:25 am
@Bi-Polar Bear,
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

The only form of government with a chance of working would be a 100% benevolent dictatorship. Anyone see any real live deities lately?


Can I apply to be benevolent dicator? I have a LONG list of stuff I'd like to fix.

Actually on the old A2K I once started a thread along those lines. If you were benevolent dictator of the USA for a year or so and did not have to answer to Congress or the Supreme Court or anybody else, name some specific decrees that you would make from your throne. It didn't last long though since too few were able to get into the spirit of the thing. I might try that again with more specific rules.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 11:29 am
@DrewDad,
Yes, but women are not that easily distracted as men. I got this email this
morning, and needless to say, I already put my 2 cent in Very Happy

Quote:
*Friends, compatriots, fellow-lamenters,

We are writing to you because of the fury and dread we have
felt since the announcement of Sarah Palin as the
Vice-Presidential candidate for the Republican Party. We believe
That this terrible decision has surpassed mere partisanship, and that
it is a dangerous farce in the part of a pandering and rudderless
Presidential candidate that has a real possibility of becoming
fact.

Perhaps like us, as American women, you share the fear of
what Ms. Palin and her professed beliefs and proven record
could lead to for ourselves and for our present or future
daughters.
To date, she is against sex education, birth control, the pro-
Choice platform, environmental protection, alternative energy development,
freedom of speech (as mayor she wanted to ban books and
attempted to fire the librarian who stood against her), gun control, the
separation of church and state, and polar bears. To say nothing
of her complete lack of real preparation to become the second-most-powerful
person on the planet.

We want to clarify that we are not against Sarah Palin as a
woman, a mother, or, for that matter, a parent of a pregnant
teenager, but solely as a rash, incompetent, and all together
devastating choice for Vice President. Ms. Palin's political views
are in every way a slap in the face to the accomplishments that our
mothers and grandmothers and great-grandmothers so fiercely fought for, and
that we've so demonstrably benefited from.

First and foremost, Ms. Palin does not represent us. She
does not demonstrate or uphold our interests as American women.
It is presumed that the inclusion of a woman on the Republican
ticket could win over women voters. We want to disagree, publicly.

Therefore, we invite you to reply here with
a short, succinct message about why you, as a woman living
in this country, do not support this candidate as second-in-command
for our nation.

Please include your name (last initial is fine), age, and
place of residence.

We will post your responses on a blog called "Women
Against Sarah Palin," which we intend to publicize as widely as
possible. Please send us your reply at your earliest
convenience.The greater the volume of responses we receive, the
stronger our message will be.

Thank you for your time and action.

VIVA!

Sincerely,

Quinn Latimer and Lyra Kilston
New York, NY
[email protected][/img]
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 11:49 am
@CalamityJane,
You know Jane, when I receive these hateful e-mails that are being passed around--you know the ones that contain all kinds of unsupportable slime against a candidate--I return them to sender--reply to all if there's a bunch of names--along with the appropriate Snopes or Factcheck or whatever reference that shows these emails to be the disgusting slime that they are.

The one you posted, should be returned to sender with the information I posted here:
http://able2know.org/topic/122351-6#post-3400455

(And yes, when the unsupportable, hateful stuff gets emailed around about Obama, I treat it in exactly the same way. If we can't be honest about this stuff, how will we ever elect anybody competent to office and how will we attract good, decent people to even run for office? And we women should demand that we be honorable about all this first and foremost if we really want to make a difference.)
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 11:57 am
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
Yes, but women are not that easily distracted as men.


No, but women do see through and get offended at feminine manipulation more than men do, so I would expect Palin to work better on men than women.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:02 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre, I don't see this one as hate mail at all. It is a way for women to voice
their opinion openly that Sarah Palin is not appealing to a large population
of women. I thought the email was rather sensible and to the point. What's
hateful about the truth, Foxfyre?
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:02 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Yes, but women are not that easily distracted as men.


No, but women do see through and get offended at feminine manipulation more than men do, so I would expect Palin to work better on men than women.


I agree here!
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:06 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

Foxfyre, I don't see this one as hate mail at all. It is a way for women to voice
their opinion openly that Sarah Palin is not appealing to a large population
of women. I thought the email was rather sensible and to the point. What's
hateful about the truth, Foxfyre?


If you had followed the link in my post, you would see how many untruths there are in the email, Jane. As women, we should demand that the information we use be accurate and presented fairly. The email slimes Sarah Palin and should not be condoned by women of honor.

We've had it tough enough claiming a voice and proper respect in the world. We do ourselves no favor by abusing that voice by maliciously sliming another woman with lies.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:08 pm
@CalamityJane,
From that E-mail, it seems they are as easily distracted as men. Palin's the distraction, when McCain, his policies, and his judgement should be the focus of the debate, IMO.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:10 pm
@CalamityJane,
do you agree also that men seems to pass it off as "she is just being a woman" were as women expect more out of a woman? My wife has a lot of very skilled manipulators working for her, who for years have manipulated the men they work for very effectively. They are SHOCKED, shocked I tell you, that the game does not work on my wife. Not even tears work!!!

not trying to make a blanket claim here, am trying to compare notes.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:11 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre, in my view it doesn't slime her at all, and isn't this the truth?
Quote:
To date, she is against sex education, birth control, the pro-
Choice platform, environmental protection, alternative energy development,
freedom of speech (as mayor she wanted to ban books and
attempted to fire the librarian who stood against her), gun control, the
separation of church and state, and polar bears. To say nothing
of her complete lack of real preparation to become the second-most-powerful
person on the planet.


I wish it would be different, Foxfyre, but above mentioned is exactly what
Sarah Palin stands for, and I for one refuse to sit in a time warp leading me
back into the medieval times. My voice alone won't make the difference,
but in numbers, we've got a chance (we meaning all women against Palin).


Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:14 pm
@CalamityJane,
Naturally, the Republicans realize that her extremist views on many of these issues are out of step with American values and desires, so they will try and use some half-assed excuse to explain each one of them away. It will not work, however.

Cycloptichorn
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:14 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

Foxfyre, in my view it doesn't slime her at all, and isn't this the truth?
Quote:
To date, she is against sex education, birth control, the pro-
Choice platform, environmental protection, alternative energy development,
freedom of speech (as mayor she wanted to ban books and
attempted to fire the librarian who stood against her), gun control, the
separation of church and state, and polar bears. To say nothing
of her complete lack of real preparation to become the second-most-powerful
person on the planet.


I wish it would be different, Foxfyre, but above mentioned is exactly what
Sarah Palin stands for, and I for one refuse to sit in a time warp leading me
back into the medieval times. My voice alone won't make the difference,
but in numbers, we've got a chance (we meaning all women against Palin).


You didn't follow the link did you. You haven't checked out a single one of those accusations have you? You just want to believe them because she is the Republican choice for VP? How narrow minded is that?

I am sure glad that 'all women against Palin' represent a minority in this country or you guys could set advancement for women back 200 years.
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 12:15 pm
In the primaries, when I was a Hillary supporter I was called a racist and a "non progressive" .

Now I think Palin is a horror, and I'm a sexist.

And I'm not speaking about myself specifically but making an example so lay off the whining comments, please.

Jesus Christ no wonder we can't get anything done in this country anymore.
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