FINAL COUNTDOWN FOR USA ELECTION 2008

@okie,

okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Just accept idiocy, is that it, cyclops?

We tolerate you, don't we?

I don't want to hear a word about 'idiocy' from the party that ran the country horribly for the last 8 years, Okie. Your party had their chance and blew it. It's the other team's turn now. Get used to it or you are going to be mighty unhappy for the next 4 to 8 years.

Cycloptichorn

The stock market collapse has been presided over by a Democratic congress, cylcops, a Congress with the lowest approval ratings in history, alot lower than Bush's ratings, and it is your guys that said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had not problems, they were just fine, just fine, yes the same outfits that have 40% of the loans in this country, 5 trillion, thats with a T, cyclops.

How many times are you going to repeat your idiocy, Okie?

The Democrats in Congress are rated higher than Bush; the Republicans, lower. Overall they are STILL rated higher than Bush is these days. You are completely wrong, again.

I don't care how many right-wing tropes you want to throw out, Okie. Your team fucked it up. Now the other team gets a shot at it. That's how the game works. Get used to it and quit your childish puling and whining.

Cycloptichorn

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@Foxfyre,

What else would he need such a civilian force for, Foxfyre, connect the dots. We have a military for a purpose, to protect the country. We have police and sheriff departments to cover crime, besides the FBI. So what on earth does he need a civilian security force for? Sounds suspicious to me, and no way would I ever want to see such a thing under the control of this self absorbed man.

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@okie,

But Okie, the Democrats out there--we're not allowed to call them hicks--believe the GOP is still in charge. Watch any impromptu man on the street and 99% of them think the Republicans are in charge. Almost none have any clue who the Speaker of the House is or the Senate Majority Leader or even who is Vice President.

But God help us all, ACORN is doing their damndest to make sure these people vote.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

But Okie, the Democrats out there--we're not allowed to call them hicks--believe the GOP is still in charge. Watch any impromptu man on the street and 99% of them think the Republicans are in charge. Almost none have any clue who the Speaker of the House is or the Senate Majority Leader or even who is Vice President.

But God help us all, ACORN is doing their damndest to make sure these people vote.

Another moronic comment. The Republicans control the Exec branch and lately the Supreme Court; they are in charge. The Exec branch has more power than the legislature, on the balance; the 'man on the street' would be perfectly correct.

Your ACORN allegations are bullshit; there is no proof that any large-scale voting fraud has or will occur. It's just something you think you can yell about, because you are being a sore loser - at the moment.

Cycloptichorn

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@Foxfyre,

Yep, the voter fraud worries me. Like Missouri, there are more voters registered in some areas than population figures show there are even people elgible to vote. I have come to the conclusion that Obama, in concert with ACORN, has a well oiled machine to conduct widespread vote fraud, no doubt in my mind. Any means justifies the end. Community organizer, yes thats what alot of this was about, figuring out how to do it, thats what it looks like to me. I always wondered what a community organizer did?

http://www.kspr.com/vote/33523234.html

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Another piece that is humor, but as with all humor, it isn't funny if it isn't based on some semblance of truth:

Obama's Infomercial Paints Grim Picture of America
Friday, October 31, 2008
By Greg Gutfeld

http://www.foxnews.com/images/457570/0_61_320_gutfeld1_newer.jpg

So I watched Obama's infomercial and forgive me if, unlike Chris Mathews, I didn't soak my Depends.

As I watched, all I could be was... confused.

Obama produced what can only be described as bizarro-propaganda: A dour documentary designed to undermine an Eastern Bloc country circa 1974. Ten minutes into the thing, I was expecting a bunch of fat babushkas in headscarves fighting over the last loaf of stale bread. Out of fear, I actually boiled and ate a neighbor's dog.

This was a view of our country seen, grimly, from the outside looking in: A place where everyone is sick, poor or sickly poor. I call it "Hugo porn" " the kind of stuff that gives Chavez a chubby.

It's as if the most successful and selfless country in the history of the world never existed. Instead, we have East Germany without the lederhosen or the sausage.

But I guess, in order to sell himself, Barack has to sell the rest of the country short.

When it was over, however, I felt like I always do after ingesting a hard sell: Convinced I was being sold something I didn't need. To me, Obama's gleaming valentine to himself succeeded in only reminding me of the Soloflex in the garage: Once shiny and new, it's now covered in my soiled shorts.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

Greg Gutfeld hosts "Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld" weekdays at 3 a.m. ET. Send your comments to: [email protected]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445557,00.html

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@okie,

Acorn only registered 1.3 million voters nationally.

Your argument is meaningless if Obama wins by more than that many votes.

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@Foxfyre,

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Almost none have any clue who the Speaker of the House is or the Senate Majority Leader or even who is Vice President.

Do you think people should have an educational qualification to get the vote Foxy? You certainly seem to imply so to me.

I have some experience of what is called "getting the vote out." And stories told in the piss-up with my fellow party workers of both our major parties. Liberal Democrats are a wash-out. Their leader has only screwed 8 women.

How a large number of these "voters" come to choose is a complete mystery. It's more than the margin of error in the best polls. Some are told of course but you are more enlightened than us. I saw one doing eany-meany-miny moes with the pencil which is fastened to a piece of string.

In fact, I discovered that those who chose by intellectual methods and reading up on these matters (sitting on their arse in English) were equally ignorant but in a different way but one more socially acceptable in the circles in which they habitually move.

My vote seemed drowned in this sea of ignorance so I gave up on the idea. That's when my political education began in earnest.

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@spendius,

I think the qualifications on the books are sufficient: be of legal age, be a U.S. citizen and that should include the ability to verify who you are when you vote, and be properly registered to vote. Oddly enough, photo ID was requested in the primary election this year, but today in the general election I could have signed any line in the book and voted, no questions asked. They even provide you with a handy list of names and numbers outside the polling area.....check the recent obits, hunt up the name and number, and vote to your hearts content.

But what I was saying in my previous post was that the system used to make it much more difficult to vote but really drove home the point of what an honor, privilege, and duty it was to do so. It was also harder to bribe people into going to vote and/or instructing them who to vote for and/or voting on their behalf. When you had to go to the County Clerk's office to register; when you were expected to register six weeks prior to the election each time you moved to a new location, when you actually had to apply for an absentee ballot or get your butt to the polling place on election day, when you had to verify your identity, those who voted were far more likely to know something about the person they were voting for and were far more likely to know something about the issues.

Dead people still voted sometimes, but overall it was a better and far more honest system.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

Instead, we have East Germany without the lederhosen or the sausage.

Usually and by tradition, people in East Germany don't wear Lederhosen (that's more a Bavaria, Austrian and Swiss tradition).

But you are correct about the sausages (though Thuringia, home country of the most famous sausages, is more 'middle' Germany than Eastern).

But why do you think that the situation in Berlin, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Sachsen or Brandenburg is so bad? Have you been there that you don't want those situations? (For the record: I have.)

I admit, though, that the USA are really a lot better. larger, better, larger, better not only than East but also as North, West, South, Central Germany ...

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And so it begins--more from the wonderful world of the electoral process in the USA:

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Tuesday, November 04, 2008
A Repeat of 2004 Philly Voter Chaos, Fraud
Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 7:46 AM

GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in at least half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.

A Pennsylvania judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening, according to sources on the ground.

It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.

Denying access to the minority (in this case Republican) poll watchers and inspectors is a violation of Pennsylvania state law. Those who violate the law can be punished with a misdemeanor and subjected to a fine of $1,000 and sent to prison between one month and two years.

Those on site are describing the situation as "pandemonium" and there may be video coming of the chaos.

Some of the precincts where Republicans have been removed are: the 44th Ward, 12th and 13th divisions; 6th Ward, 12th division; 32nd Ward, Division 28.

“Election board officials guard the legitimacy of the election process and the idea that Republicans are being intimidated and banned for partisan purposes does not allow for an honest and open election process,” said McCain-Palin spokesman Ben Porritt in a statement to Townhall.

The City of Brotherly Love was roiled in controversy during the 2004 election because of rigged voting machines that showed nearly 2,000 votes for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry before the polls had opened. A man also used a gun to intimidate poll workers at Ward 30, division 11 in 2004.
http://able2know.org/reply/topic-121961

Obama will pay for my mortgage and fuel bills. . . .

Black Panthers block polling place in Philly:

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McCain campaign sues over overseas military ballots
RICHMOND

John McCain's presidential campaign filed a federal suit Monday against Virginia seeking to extend by 10 days the deadline for the state's acceptance of military members' federal absentee ballots.

Word of the suit emerged Monday afternoon, around the time that a separate election-related injunction request to extend voting hours in today's election was being rejected in federal court.

A national voter rights group, the Advancement Project, and the state NAACP chapter sued the state last week claiming unfair election practices and sought court action to change the distribution of voting machines in Norfolk, Richmond and Virginia Beach, extend polling hours and permit wider use of paper ballots.

Judge Richard Williams did not grant the immediate injunction, though the suit is expected to proceed at a later date. In his ruling, Williams reasoned that last-minute changes to the election format could harm the public in the name of protecting voters potentially disenfranchised by current state election laws.

The McCain suit, meanwhile, seeks an injunction to extend the date by which federal write-in absentee ballots must be received to be counted. The current deadline is today, but the suit seeks to have the date changed to Nov. 14.

"Because many counties in Virginia failed to mail absentee ballots in time to our men and women in uniform stationed overseas, service members are being disenfranchised because they are unable to return their ballots before the November 4 deadline," campaign spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said in a written statement about the suit, which is scheduled to be heard in Williams' courtroom at 1:30 p.m. today.
http://hamptonroads.com/print/486648

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Toledo Police brace for possible civil unrest
Monday, November 03, 2008 at 4:44 p.m.

TOLEDO, OHIO -- Toledo police are gearing up for possible "Civil unrest" during and after tomorrow's elections.

In an internal memo obtained exclusively by NBC 24 News, officers are ordered to "Have their riot equipment with them Tuesday and Wednesday". Police chief Mike Navarre confirms, officers will have gear similar to the equipment they used during the 2005 race riots. "They have been asked to have their helmets and their gas masks available tomorrow and Wednesday.", Navarre says, "That's the equipment they would not normally carry with them on a normal day".

Navarre also says, officers will not be stationed at individual polling stations. But the memo says otherwise. It reads, "On Tuesday, units shall be directed to patrol the polling locations".
http://www.wnwo.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=216464

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November 04, 2008
Professor ousted after tearing down McCain yard signs

The St. Olaf (Northfield, Minn.) professor who, in a well-read Huffington Post item, recounted tearing down McCain campaign signs has resigned.

Per the Northfield News, it appears that Philip Busse was forced out.

St. Olaf spokesman David Gonnerman issued the following statement Monday afternoon:

"The St. Olaf College administration first learned of Phil Busse's self-admitted theft and destruction of campaign signs on the morning of Oct. 31 as a result of his posting on the Internet.

"The St. Olaf administration immediately referred the matter to local law enforcement authorities and commenced an investigation of its own.

"Mr. Busse has tendered his resignation and is no longer affiliated with St. Olaf College.

Busse has been charged with misdemeanor theft.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Professor_ousted_after_tearing_down_McCain_yard_signs.html

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Among the Other Voters
November 04, 2008 8:38 AM

CHICAGO, Ill. -- Among the other voters who have shown up to vote at Shoesmith Elementary School this morning, where Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., will vote: Louis Farrakhan and William Ayers.

Seriously.

Welcome to the South Side of Chicago.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/among-the-other.html

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Prepare for chaos: U.S. electoral system warned it 'can't cope' as historic number of voters cast their ballot
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:18 PM on 04th November 2008

A record turnout of up to 130million voters may spell chaos for America's voting system today.

The presidential election could descend into electoral farce as unprecedented numbers of voters turn out to cast their ballot in a system that is largely untested.

The U.S. has an electoral system that is not organised, designed or funded to cope with 'anywhere near a 100 per cent turnout', a director of a leading independent electoral reform group has said.

It is estimated that more Americans will vote in this election than in any other. Doug Chapin, director of The Pew Charitable Trust's Electionline.org, said voter turnout will 'dwarf' all other problems in this year's presidential election.

There were also fears that the allegations of stolen votes that marred the 2000 and 2004 would be repeated, especially if the result is closer than the polls suggest.

Widespread claims have been made in the past few days that electronic voting machines have 'flipped' people's choices, so that votes cast for Barack Obama have ended up being counted as McCain votes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1082591/Prepare-chaos-U-S-electoral-warned-cope-historic-number-voters-cast-ballot.html

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@Foxfyre,

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GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in at least half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.

Let's be honest: these people were probably assholes who were harassing folks.

And, Ayers and Farrakhan voted? So what? American citizens do have the right to do that, yaknow.

Pathetic

Cycloptichorn

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre, the Democrat's thugs are trying to steal the election. And as I have posted many times, inner city areas are huge problems.

Hello Civil War if this stuff continues and grows.

The Democrats bear all of the responsibility.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Foxfyre, the Democrat's thugs are trying to steal the election. And as I have posted many times, inner city areas are huge problems.

Hello Civil War if this stuff continues and grows.

Bring it, if you think you have what it takes. Laughing

Cycloptichorn

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I hope to be able to enjoy four to eight years of the Queen of the Conservative Tools, Foxfyre, whining about how unfair it all is.

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@Walter Hinteler,

The piece was humorous satire, Walter. Don't they have that in Germany?

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@Foxfyre,

Yes, certainly. We laugh about satires about the U.S. election Americans here momentarily. Which actually seems to be the reality.

Oh, in the UK (in the Anglican cathedral of Ely) they had some special prayers for the USA last Sunday. But that's also not satire:
(I've copied the first paragraphs of the first page of the leaflet, the second is about the situation in Congo - it was a prayer in the Sung Eucharistic as well.)

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Foxfyre, the Democrat's thugs are trying to steal the election. And as I have posted many times, inner city areas are huge problems.

Hello Civil War if this stuff continues and grows.

Bring it, if you think you have what it takes.

Cycloptichorn

Not a personal threat from me, just a warning about how folks react to corruption. And I find it bizarre that you laugh at corruption. You brush it off. I am warning you and the people that think like you apparently think, that the end justifies the means, that alot of people may get fed up to the point that there could be violence down the road a ways, a few years, but some very ugly seeds are being sown these days. Not me, I am a peace loving person, but I mourn over the passing of the goodness of this country, it seems to be slipping away. I do not think in my lifetime I have ever witnessed the hatred that we see on the left these days, and the demands that people are making on law abiding citizens. This is a sad day, whichever way the election goes. If it is stolen, how does that make law abiding citizens feel? And if McCain should pull it out, you already have promises by your Democratic thugs to march in the streets. Here we have a guy, Obama, promising to be a unifying figure, and nothing could be further from the truth, his candidacy has been poison so far.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

Another piece that is humor, but as with all humor, it isn't funny if it isn't based on some semblance of truth:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/stevetheq/geezer-dingbat-yard-sign.jpg

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@okie,

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I do not think in my lifetime I have ever witnessed the hatred that we see on the left these days, and the demands that people are making on law abiding citizens.

What the hell are you talking about okie? I realize you are upset about your guy losing but what kind of nonsense is this? What hatred?

I see you making threats of civil war. I see cjhsa making similar threats.

What hatred have you seen from the left?

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