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FINAL COUNTDOWN FOR USA ELECTION 2008

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 12:53 pm
@Debra Law,
McCain will steal less, since the progressive income tax rates he will support will be less--much much less.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 01:06 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I don't believe for a second that you have any real intention of revolt, and if you did, you'd be slapped down instantly.



Looks like I won't have to join a revolt against Obama, because McCain will be elected president.

But if McCain were to do any of the things Obama promised to do, then WE will certainly revolt against that.

But keep believing what you are believing. It will relieve you of the pain of any sense of responsibility for what you are doing and not doing.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 01:09 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
I don't believe for a second that you have any real intention of revolt, and if you did, you'd be slapped down instantly.



Looks like I won't have to join a revolt against Obama, because McCain will be elected president.


Oh, does it look like that Laughing?

Cycloptichorn
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 04:49 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Yes!
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 04:52 pm
@ican711nm,
God, I hope your crystal ball is working properly this week.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 08:53 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

It is now clear from all Obama and his associates have said and done that Obama and his associates are gangsters planning to steal our money and our Constitutional rights if Obama is elected president.

Yes, uh uh, after his agitators, (or organizers), have helped him steal the election, I am sure the country will be finally united, ican. It all makes perfect sense, ican, we are all supposed to be very happy about it and all unite behind a malcontent that has been running down the country, while we have all been out here in fly over country clinging to our guns and religion.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 09:09 pm
@okie,
Quote:


On Oct. 6, the community organizing group Acorn and an affiliated charity called Project Vote announced with jubilation that they had registered 1.3 million new voters. But it turns out the claim was a wild exaggeration, and the real number of newly registered voters nationwide is closer to 450,000, Project Vote’s executive director, Michael Slater, said in an interview.


OMG. McCain is going to lose by less than a million votes and ACORN will have caused him to lose.

ROLFMAO..
You guys with your blaming of ACORN is ridiculous. McCain will lose by about 10 million votes and ACORN only signed up 1/2 million new voters.
okie
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 09:12 pm
@parados,
You heard it right here, a little fraud is just fine as long as it does not alter the outcome of an election, that according to Parados, and we will all know how much fraud there was, because Parados can tell us. I am feeling much better now, Parados, after you comforted us all about such an insignificant number of votes, just close to a half million is all that might be suspect. I am so grateful for the assurance, because now I feel we can all unite behind the great one.

I am so glad that now I am not bothered while I quietly go to work every day to earn a buck, that all those wonderful agitators, excuse me slip of the tongue, organizers, are out there doing their job signing up dead people, Mickey Mouse, and other voters, because they only want the best for all of us.
okie
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 09:19 pm
@okie,
One more comment, I feel so good, because Parados has assured us all that ACORN is such a wonderful organization, it is first class. It is so wonderful that Obama wishes he would not have to deny he ever worked for it. It would have made Obama so proud, if only he had done some work for it and if only his campaign had a close relationship with it, then he could also take credit for all of their wonderful community work. It is admirable. Too bad Obama missed out on it.
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 01:25 am
@okie,
Okie, why weren't you wringing your hands with deep concern and worry during the 2000 and 2004 election processes?

If I remember correctly, you were among many ridiculing anyone who raised concerns and cited statistics and evidence of vote tampering and registration frauds. Weren't you one of the people telling folks to just get over it and stop being sore losers?

I hope this new found awareness of yours will now result in your uniting with the rest of the folks who have been crying foul about the problems of our antiquated election system and demand the politicians fix it.
okie
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:23 am
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet, there is real vote tampering, and then there is the political noise that Democrats throw out as a smoke screen, to hide what the real corruption.

I remember hearing about voter obstruction in Florida, yet all investigations could not find a single incident worth reporting, as I recall, meanwhile Gore actively attempted to throw out legitimate voters, such as the military vote. Also, there were reports of a significant number of Democrats voting in more than one state, also a judge kept polls open in St. Louis past hours, and is there little doubt that the greatest amount of fraud is conducted in Democrat heavy inner cities - the fraud is legendary in some places, butrfly.

I do not feel conflicted whatsoever, as I have not seen outright attempts at voter fraud by Republicans, if I do, I would condemn it and fight it strongly, too bad you guys don't do the same when the fraud attempts are obvious. The common argument in regard to ACORN is oh well, fraudulant registrations is nothing because they won't be able to vote. It is obvious to people with any common sense that if an organization has no problem with fraudulant registrations, they would also have no problem with fraudulant votes, and I think there are ways to do it, no doubt in my mind. Crooks are crooks, plain and simple.

Most republicans are working people, we go to jobs every day. The Democrats are famous for their groups, rent-a-mobs, and I don't know who pays all these people, community agitators, organizers, whatever, but I find it pathetic they don't have better things to do, like go to work, instead of mucking up an election. I find it bizarre that people can't simply go register on their own, are they that helpless, without somebody like ACORN?
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:49 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

The common argument in regard to ACORN is oh well, fraudulant registrations is nothing because they won't be able to vote. It is obvious to people with any common sense that if an organization has no problem with fraudulant registrations, they would also have no problem with fraudulant votes, and I think there are ways to do it, no doubt in my mind. Crooks are crooks, plain and simple.

The fact of the matter is that ACORN doesn't register voters, the county or state does. ACORN is required to turn in all completed registrations by law. They flag these for the registrars when they turn them in.

I can't speak to any history of voter fraud and the like in different areas as I am no expert on that subject. But what the GOP has a documented history of doing is disenfranchising voters by scrubbing people off the roles without cause and without their knowledge. This was proven in FL in 2000.

Aside from the partisan nonsense, we have serious issues in this country with our elections. We have electronic voting machines that don't work properly and many still in use which don't provide a paper ballot. We have state elections run by political operatives, and no national voter registry. It's possible, for instance, that I could be registered in three different states right now because I've moved. Locally run elections means that some districts, notably the poorer ones, get the substandard voting equipment, like the punchcard machines that hadn't been cleaned in decades, making it hard to punch through the cards and leaving "hanging chads". Lots of this stuff doesn't pass the smell test, but an organization who goes out and conducts massive voter drives, sometimes paying people who don't do their jobs, is not our greatest issue.

I could go into your blatantly insulting "Republicans are working people" nonsense, but I think it more or less speaks to your ignorance so I'll just leave it there in its naked absurdity.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:59 am
@FreeDuck,
I won't.

Quote:

Most republicans are working people, we go to jobs every day. The Democrats are famous for their groups, rent-a-mobs, and I don't know who pays all these people, community agitators, organizers, whatever, but I find it pathetic they don't have better things to do, like go to work, instead of mucking up an election. I find it bizarre that people can't simply go register on their own, are they that helpless, without somebody like ACORN?


Okie, enough with your insulting ****. Democrats are working people who go to jobs every day. And in the case of Community Organizers, they are often funded by charities and churches - Obama was paid for three years by the Catholic church to register voters and get people help finding work retraining after losing their job.

The problem with your ACORN argument, is that voter registration fraud is not the same thing as voter fraud. It isn't as if people are showing up to vote as Tom Brady in Pittsburgh. So what you claim is a problem, is not a serious problem when it comes to the integrity of our elections. It's just an excuse, a dodge. And it's a stupid one, right up there with the 'minority homeowners caused the financial crisis' excuse that your side puts forth. There's no basis in reality; it just allows you to blame the groups you don't like for your own problems.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:06 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I view voter registration fraud to be virtually on par with vote fraud. Anyone that would register fraudulant voters would probably go along with vote fraud at the ballot box, it is all cut out of the same cloth, that cloth being no regard for honesty.

Insult, I think alot of us out here are insulted by some of these fraudulant organizations, cyclops. Most of the people I know think of ACORN as an insult, a joke. Race has no contribution to the problem, its political corruption, period. Rent-a-mobs pretty much describes it.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:48 am
It appears that the Augusta Chronicle understands the point I was attempting to make a couple of days or so ago--the point not a single Obama supporter ssemed to be able to grasp Smile :
http://i.spotted.augusta.com/user/1/gallery/624121.jpg

Yesterday or the day before he was kibitzing about the criticisms of his "spread the wealth' plan equating it with him being criticized because he shared his toys with a friend or his lunch at school with somebody who forgot his. The thing he (and apparently his worshipers) continue to miss is that his illustrations are of voluntary charity. That is much different than the school or school board demanding that he give up his toys and/or his lunch just because they thought somebody else needed them more.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:51 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

I view voter registration fraud to be virtually on par with vote fraud. Anyone that would register fraudulant voters would probably go along with vote fraud at the ballot box, it is all cut out of the same cloth, that cloth being no regard for honesty.


Well, that's an idiotic view, Okie, and not one you can defend with any logic. Just your assertions. People don't go to the polls and vote with obviously fake names, because they are afraid of being caught. Same can't be said for registrations, where they are paid to hand in a big stack of them at the end of the week.

Quote:
Insult, I think alot of us out here are insulted by some of these fraudulant organizations, cyclops. Most of the people I know think of ACORN as an insult, a joke. Race has no contribution to the problem, its political corruption, period. Rent-a-mobs pretty much describes it.


That is most likely because you live in a Conservative area of a hick state, Okie. You have no real objectivity, just an extremely partisan lens from which everything is tinted. Not cool.

Cycloptichorn
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 12:27 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

It appears that the Augusta Chronicle understands the point I was attempting to make a couple of days or so ago--the point not a single Obama supporter ssemed to be able to grasp Smile :

Must be tough being the lone genius in a crowd of ignorant partisans.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 01:27 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
Yesterday or the day before he was kibitzing about the criticisms of his "spread the wealth' plan equating it with him being criticized because he shared his toys with a friend or his lunch at school with somebody who forgot his. The thing he (and apparently his worshipers) continue to miss is that his illustrations are of voluntary charity. That is much different than the school or school board demanding that he give up his toys and/or his lunch just because they thought somebody else needed them more.


If you're so against sharing, why did you take my tax dollars for your new furnace, Foxfyre? I want my money back!!!!

Who are ALL these worthless people whom you claim that Obama is going to give YOUR toys to? Is it the veteran from the war in Iraq who lost both his legs in an explosion? Is it the baby who was abandoned at the local hospital emergency room? Is it the old man who doesn't know who he is anymore because of Alzheimers Disease? Who are the worthless bums who are taking your tax dollars? Identify them or quit your whining.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 02:22 pm
@Debra Law,
Conservatives are not against sharing. They are against the federal government directing them with whom they must share and how much they must share. Generally, conservatives are much more charitable than liberals. Conservatives share that which is theirs with others they think they can help become more self reliant or who are physically or mentally handicapped.

Liberals share that which is not theirs to share by how much and with whomever the federal government chooses with those whomever the federal government chooses. Such liberals are not charitable. Such liberals are accomplices of thieves.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 02:28 pm
@ican711nm,
Also, liberals share what was not theirs with those they can make a big song and dance about and get their fissogs in the sheets and, hopefully, jump-start their careers as a mass nuisance and general all-round cluster-busybody.

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