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FINAL COUNTDOWN FOR USA ELECTION 2008

 
 
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:16 am
@mysteryman,
Nobody said he made it up.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:18 am
@H2O MAN,
Did the Obama campaign demand an apology for it?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:22 am
@FreeDuck,
Obama should offer an apology to everyone for it.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:24 am
@H2O MAN,
You don't know your history, do you?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:25 am
@parados,
You don't know the definition, do you?
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:32 am
@H2O MAN,
Yes, I do know the definition.

Perhaps you can explain how running for President makes one "uppity." What is Obama's station in life that he is not entitled to run?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:37 am
@parados,


Running for president does not change the fact that Obama is uppity.

Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:38 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

I think Obama blew it with his latest gaffe.
His comment about "putting lipstick on a pig" is gonna backfire on him.
Since Sarah Palin called herself a "pitbull with lipstick", his comments could be seen as sexist.

For the record, I do NOT think his comment was directed at or about Gov Palin, but I do think it was a very poor choice of words.
I have a feeling its gonna come back and bite him on the ass.


I thought it was just used as the term is commonly used without innuendo too until I heard later that prior to this remark, the crowd was chanting to him "No pitbulls! No pittbulls!" That explains why the crowd whooped and hollered and rose to their feet when he said it. Changes the perspective doesn't it?
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:50 am
@H2O MAN,
I see you didn't answer the question of WHY you think he is "uppity".

It seems you don't know the definition.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:53 am
@Foxfyre,
No, it doesn't.

You heard it but don't have evidence but want to believe it so you can justify your perspective. Your perspective didn't change at all. You just change your facts to fit your perspective.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:57 am
@parados,
Why do you feel Obama is not taking liberties or assuming airs beyond his station?
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:05 am
@H2O MAN,
The man went to Harvard and graduated magna cum laude. He is an elected US Senator. I would say he earned his present situation through intelligence and hard work.

Again. Let me ask YOU. What station is he assuming airs above?

You have yet to give me one, so I can only assume you are using the most obvious basis, the color of his skin.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:07 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

I can only assume you are using the most obvious basis, the color of his skin.


Then you are a racist!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:09 am
@parados,
Well it is true, I heard it and its pretty hard to produce evidence for what you hear. Until we find a transcript of that speech with audience reaction, I will just have to go by what I hear. But consider this:

“Lipstick”, and “pitbull” are two words that have been associated with Sarah Palin since she made her now famous joke at the RNC Convention:

Do you know what the difference is between a hockey mom and a Pit Bull?” "Lipstick."

Since then, the analogy has been used by both campaigns “the Pit bull with lipstick" along with Sarah Barracuda. Columnists are writing sneering op eds with the terms. There are accounts of Obama supporters chanting “No Pit Bulls! No Pit Bulls” at his campaign rallies.

At an Obama campaign rally in St. Louis this week, MO Rep Russ Carnahan said: “For all his tough talk [McCain] buckled to the right wing of his party in his choice. Picked someone with zero experience in national government, zero experience in foreign affairs. There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick.”

And via The Politico, in Lebanon, VA:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.” “We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

Did Obama called Sarah Palin a pig? His supporters certainly took it that way.

Is it possible that the Obama campaign would be so careless and naive and use the "lipstick and pig" thing and believe it would not be seen as a juvenile put down of Sarah Palin?

Many including Ben Smith, Mike Huckabee, and others have been quick to point out that Obama didn’t call Sarah Palin a pig. And he didn’t in so many words.

But, given the history leading up to the rally yesterday, is it possible that the Obama campaign would be so careless or naive as to use the word, lipstick and “pig” , and believe it would not be seen as a juvenile put down aimed at Governor Palin?

Michelle Malkin thinks the “pig” part of the joke was meant for Sarah, and the “old fish” part was meant for McCain. If it was, Obama cuts another notch in his hypocrisy sign. If it wasn't, Senator Obama must really really not be as bright as his disciples want him to be.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:12 am
@Foxfyre,
What a bunch of horseshit. I really hope the McCain camp does keep pushing this stupid issue. The national reporters clearly think it's stupid and it just makes McCain look asinine and childish.

Yaknow, he is proving himself more and more completely unfit to hold office. Between this idiocy and the truly perverted 'education' ad that the McCain camp put out, a sick, sick ad that makes Willie Horton look like a joke, they've sunk to complete asshole status. Seriously. I'm disgusted with the McCain camp today.

Cycloptichorn

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:16 am
@Cycloptichorn,


What are you ranting about now?

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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:16 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Dispute it if you can, Cyclop. Dispute it if you can. Calling it 'horseshit' without having anything to rebut it sounds almost as desperate as Obama is sounding these days.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:19 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Dispute it if you can, Cyclop. Dispute it if you can. Calling it 'horseshit' without having anything to rebut it sounds almost as desperate as Obama is sounding these days.


There's nothing to rebut. Obama used a common phrase, and one which has been used many times in the past by McCain himself, on one occasion in reference to Hillary Clinton. This whole thing is manufactured bullshit and you know it.

The completely reprehensible 'education' ad by McCain, on the other hand is sick and perverted and you should feel ashamed to even be a part of someone who would put something like that on the air. Truly.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:22 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
This whole thing is manufactured bullshit and you know it.


It's just another Obamablunder that has been successfully turned against him.
He really should stick with the teleprompter and give up on being a stand up comedian.

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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:23 am
@Cycloptichorn,
The history is verifiable. Given how the pittbull versus lipstick thing has been played constantly in the media, if you think Obama should not have been sensitive to how lipstick on a pig would be interpreted by both his supporters and his opponents, you are as bad as Obama. He was naive or dumb or intentionally insulting. Take your choice.
 

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