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OK, I admit it. Sarah Palin is a great pick!

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 01:22 pm
@Lash,
Rolling Eyes

They are merely hoping the hail mary will be caught. That's it. After having no hope forever, it's a release for them to have at least SOMETHING to look forward to.

Cycloptichorn
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 01:29 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Rolling Eyes
They are sending in money hand over fist...signing up to volunteer....they will not sit this one out, now,...like many Hillary-ites plan to do.... (parry, thrust....) Cool
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 01:35 pm
@Lash,
You want to bet on it? I think this Palin pick probably energized Hillary Dems as much if not more then the Republicans - for it's an insult to them, and they know it.

McCain's problems won't be fixed by firing up the base - the Republican base has shrank sufficiently that that doesn't matter. His problem is with independents. If he can't win them, he loses. And this far-right pander pick, while exciting to the mouth-breather creationists, does nothing for independents.

Cycloptichorn

Btw, what you describe as 'hand over fist,' the Obama campaign calls 'normal.'
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Not a Soccer Mom
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:02 pm
I just figgered [sic]out why McCain tapped Palin!

She's a GRANDMA!!!!!!!!!!
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Not a Soccer Mom
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:04 pm
@Lash,
Will they return it when McCain drops her?

Can you confirm they really raised $7 million? Looks like they learned something from Hillary at any rate.

Gosh, you peeple are such sheeple.

As we speak, Grandpa McCain is trying to make political hay from a disaster. Typical.

Hey where's Grannie, has she answered a question yet?

We need to put up a doomsday clock as it surely is going to be doomsday when she answers questions unscripted.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 04:00 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
The net is filled with headlines like "Evangelicals ELECTRIFIED by Palin."


if they are, it's proof positive that they put church before country.

not that it surprises me much. there's a segment of evangelical christians that won't rest until the stars on the flag are replaced by a cross.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 05:07 pm
http://www.serendipit-e.com/blog/images/sarahheathstatebb1982_1.jpg

She looks like she can handle a basketball. I may have to take that into consideration when I approach the voting station.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 09:03 pm
@gustavratzenhofer,
I, for one, would love to see Palin and Obama (both basketball players) go one-on-one.

It could count as a debate.
littlek
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 10:44 pm
@ebrown p,
Great idea!
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 04:37 am
@littlek,


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The New York Times
August 31, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist

Vice in Go-Go Boots?
By MAUREEN DOWD


The guilty pleasure I miss most when I’m out slogging on the campaign trail is the chance to sprawl on the chaise and watch a vacuously spunky and generically sassy chick flick.

So imagine my delight, my absolute astonishment, when the hokey chick flick came out on the trail, a Cinderella story so preposterous it’s hard to believe it’s not premiering on Lifetime. Instead of going home and watching “Miss Congeniality” with Sandra Bullock, I get to stay here and watch “Miss Congeniality” with Sarah Palin.

Sheer heaven.

It’s easy to see where this movie is going. It begins, of course, with a cute, cool unknown from Alaska who has never even been on “Meet the Press” triumphing over a cute, cool unknowable from Hawaii who has been on “Meet the Press” a lot.

Americans, suspicious that the Obamas have benefited from affirmative action without being properly grateful, and skeptical that Michelle really likes “The Brady Bunch” and “The Dick Van Dyke Show,” reject the 47-year-old black contender as too uppity and untested.

Instead, they embrace 72-year-old John McCain and 44-year-old Sarah Palin, whose average age is 58, a mere two years older than the average age of the Obama-Biden ticket. Enthusiastic Republicans don’t see the choice of Palin as affirmative action, despite her thin résumé and gaping absence of foreign policy knowledge, because they expect Republicans to put an underqualified “babe,” as Rush Limbaugh calls her, on the ticket. They have a tradition of nominating fun, bantamweight cheerleaders from the West, like the previous Miss Congeniality types Dan Quayle and W., and then letting them learn on the job. So they crash into the globe a few times while they’re learning to drive, what’s the big deal?

Obama may have been president of The Harvard Law Review, but Palin graduated from the University of Idaho with a minor in poli-sci and worked briefly as a TV sports reporter. And she was tougher on the basketball court than the ethereal Obama, earning the nickname “Sarah Barracuda.”

The legacy of Geraldine Ferraro was supposed to be that no one would ever go on a blind date with history again. But that crazy maverick and gambler McCain does it, and conservatives and evangelicals rally around him in admiration of his refreshingly cynical choice of Sarah, an evangelical Protestant and anti-abortion crusader who became a hero when she decided to have her baby, who has Down syndrome, and when she urged schools to debate creationism as well as that stuffy old evolution thing.

Palinistas, as they are called, love Sarah’s spunky, relentlessly quirky “Northern Exposure” story from being a Miss Alaska runner-up, and winning Miss Congeniality, to being mayor and hockey mom in Wasilla, a rural Alaskan town of 6,715, to being governor for two years to being the first woman ever to run on a national Republican ticket. (Why do men only pick women as running mates when they need a Hail Mary pass? It’s a little insulting.)

Sarah is a zealot, but she’s a fun zealot. She has a beehive and sexy shoes, and the day she’s named she goes shopping with McCain in Ohio for a cheerleader outfit for her daughter.

As she once told Vogue, she’s learned the hard way to deal with press comments about her looks. “I wish they’d stick with the issues instead of discussing my black go-go boots,” she said. “A reporter once asked me about it during the campaign, and I assured him I was trying to be as frumpy as I could by wearing my hair on top of my head and these schoolmarm glasses.”

This chick flick, naturally, features a wild stroke of fate, when the two-year governor of an oversized igloo becomes commander in chief after the president-elect chokes on a pretzel on day one.

The movie ends with the former beauty queen shaking out her pinned-up hair, taking off her glasses, slipping on ruby red peep-toe platform heels that reveal a pink French-style pedicure, and facing down Vladimir Putin in an island in the Bering Strait. Putting away her breast pump, she points her rifle and informs him frostily that she has some expertise in Russia because it’s close to Alaska. “Back off, Commie dude,” she says. “I’m a much better shot than Cheney.”

Then she takes off in her seaplane and lands on the White House lawn, near the new ice fishing hole and hockey rink. The “First Dude,” as she calls the hunky Eskimo in the East Wing, waits on his snowmobile with the kids " Track (named after high school track meets), Bristol (after Bristol Bay where they did commercial fishing), Willow (after a community in Alaska), Piper (just a cool name) and Trig (Norse for “strength.”)

“The P.T.A. is great preparation for dealing with the K.G.B.,” President Palin murmurs to Todd, as they kiss in the final scene while she changes Trig’s diaper. “Now that Georgia’s safe, how ’bout I cook you up some caribou hot dogs and moose stew for dinner, babe?”
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:25 pm
Quote:
“The P.T.A. is great preparation for dealing with the K.G.B.,” President Palin murmurs"

Laughing Laughing Laughing

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:18 pm
@Green Witch,
my favourite gang of evangelicals is hap-hap-happy

the latest from their front (at one of the food forums I spend time at)

Quote:
Not really, people like you are not the target, they know your type will never vote for them and they don�t care. She was brought on to solidify the socially conservative base and to appeal to the Wall-Mart vote. She can do that, let�s face it, with a pregnant 17 year old daughter she is even tighter with rednecks. They might have voted for Hillary, but never for Obama, he'll take their guns.


gotta love the spin on a spin

Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:20 pm
@ehBeth,
Aaaacccckkk.

(bill the cat)
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:21 pm
Palin's lawyered up in Troopergate.

Cycloptichorn
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:22 pm
@Rockhead,
I have to admit, I sometimes feel like I'm watching aliens there.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:23 pm
@ehBeth,
oh yeah, the flip view there is that McCain picked Palin knowing all of this - so that he can dump her in 2 - 4 weeks, and pick up Lieberman who was his preferred pick.

firefly
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 08:32 am
@ehBeth,
Palin is so out of her depth in this race, I'm almost starting to feel sorry for her.

And now that she has dragged her pregnant daughter into all of it, whatever mess exists in Palin's personal life, and her family's life, will be exposed in every tabloid. She may not have realized just how much privacy you give up when you run for VP and how much that affects everyone around you. But, as a VP candidate she is no longer entitled to very much privacy, and the media is unlikely to show her much mercy.

If the polls show a downturn, or if the heat really gets to her, I think she may drop off the ticket and claim that the demands of her family, which is now expanding, require her to to do that (along with a big nudge from McCain to drop out). In 1972, Eagleton had to drop off the ticket with McGovern, only a few weeks after his selection, because of info that came out about his treatment for depression that generated a lot of controversy.

Palin's selection makes McCain look very bad, in terms of his judment. Now that she has gone from "hockey mom" to "hockey grandma" one can only wonder what else will come out about her. She doesn't have enough of a substantive record of accomplishment, or positive national image, to be able to weather any revelations that will raise doubts in people's minds, and it will all reflect back on McCain.

Democratic stratagists must just be watching and biding their time. The Palin nomination may just self-destruct, splatter debris all over McCain, and spare them a lot of effort.
JPB
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 10:06 am
@firefly,
Quote:
The Palin nomination may just self-destruct, splatter debris all over McCain, and spare them a lot of effort.


And, I'm thinking it will do just that.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 12:45 pm
@firefly,
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/09/were_sorry_but_palin_babydaddy.html

Quote:
John McCain is definitely winning the cougar vote now, on top of the Jamie-Lynn Spears vote.


Laughing
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 12:50 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth, That's a winner - by a landslide. Any parent would want him (Johnson) as their son-in-law, and that's a another "plus" for Palin's VP slot. rah, rah, rah, go cougers!
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