Debra Law
 
  1  
Wed 8 Oct, 2008 05:23 pm
Sarah's Favorite Drink Recipe: This One'll Get You Hammered

Quote:
You will need:

1 - One part bitterness and anger
2 - Three parts freefall economy
3 - A pinch of xenophobia and racism
4 - A smattering of key allies in the press
5 - Add peculiarly compelling personality to taste
6 - For the active ingredient, add the word "Terrorist"

Drink this and I promise you will get drunker 'n Todd on the Fourth of Joo-ly!

The right ingredients, at the right time, mixed together by a ravenously ambitious leader without any moral compass, can and will produce something extremely toxic and dangerous....


cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 8 Oct, 2008 06:07 pm
@Debra Law,
Just goes to show many Americans like to get drunk and kill themselves.
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JLNobody
 
  1  
Thu 9 Oct, 2008 11:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
She seems to be trying to flirt her way to victory, a real lightweight. Women deserve a much better representative.
Diest TKO
 
  2  
Thu 9 Oct, 2008 11:55 pm
@JLNobody,
Which was a bad gamble on their part. More women vote these days than men. The data I've seen shows that Palin is more potent with men. I think they realized about a week after choosing her that Clinton supporters were not taking the bait and switched out the flats for the heels if you can dig.

On a side note, in a politics chat today at lunch, my supervisor confessed to the group that for the first time in his life he will be voting for a democrat. This was really shocking for us (we're all very close). His reason, he felt that her pick was purely show and had no merit. He thought it reflected poorly on McCain's character; that he did just want to win, and not to lead. He went on to tell us that he had been turned off to Obama for most of the race mostly because he had conditioned himself over his life to simply tune out the democrats. After the shock wave of Palin (which turned him off) he began to listen to Obama, and said he was really impressed and identified with him.

Did I mention how shocking this was. It's not like the guy is super conservative, but certainly not a liberal by any standard. anyways back to the story...

He approached another coworker and I and asked us for some other details about Obama's platform. We filled in holes as best we could. He explained that he wanted to sit down with his wife and talk about it.

Utterly shocking. However, more shocking that a husband would think he could pow-wow his wife instead of the opposite which is certainly more common.

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blatham
 
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Fri 10 Oct, 2008 07:19 am
@Diest TKO,
Quote:
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That was quite cute.

The WP has an interesting piece on the initial (professional) marketing of ProductPalin

A couple of elements seem worthy of consideration...1) personal ambition; 2) connections to the oil industry; 3) her first Washington contact being none other than Cheney.
blueflame1
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 07:32 am
@blatham,
Cheney with lipstick.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:12 am
@JLNobody,
Sex sells; that's the American way. (Maybe, universal way.)
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Debra Law
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:14 am
Alaska Supreme Court
http://www.state.ak.us/courts/ops/sp-ord64.pdf

Quote:
Apellants are six legislators who claim that the Alaska Legislative Council's investigation into the dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan is unlawful and should be enjoined. The superior court denied the appellant's Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and granted the Motion to Dismiss submitted by the Alaska Legislative Council and the other defendants....

IT IS ORDERED: The order of the superior court issued on October 2, 2008 granting the Motion to Dismiss is AFFIRMED. An opinion will follow....
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sozobe
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:48 am
@Diest TKO,
This is great to know, thanks!
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:51 am
@Diest TKO,
The question now becomes at what point will more conservatives see what your supervisor now sees? The movement of numbers don't seem to confirm that too many are changing their "stripes," but enough to sway swing states to Obama.
Debra Law
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The question now becomes at what point will more conservatives see what your supervisor now sees? The movement of numbers don't seem to confirm that too many are changing their "stripes," but enough to sway swing states to Obama.


They see RED ... they see a skinhead in a sheriff's uniform inciting them to become angry and violent ... and they cheer and chant,"terrorist!" and "kill him." It's very ugly and frightening.
Debra Law
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 12:45 pm
GOP Anger Unleashed At McCain Rallies
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/10/politics/washingtonpost/main4513313.shtml

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 01:02 pm
@Debra Law,
Funny coming from the party whose veep candidate practices witchcraft.
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Diest TKO
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:41 pm
Panel: Palin abused power in trooper case

CNN wrote:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) -- Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin abused her power as Alaska's governor and violated state ethics law by trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired from the state police, a state investigator's report concluded Friday.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is under investigation for the firing of her public safety commissioner.

"Gov. Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda," the report states.

Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan's refusal to fire State Trooper Mike Wooten from the state police force was "likely a contributing factor" to Monegan's July dismissal, but Palin had the authority as governor to fire him, the report by former Anchorage prosecutor Stephen Branchflower states.

However, it states that her efforts to get Wooten fired broke a state ethics law that bars public officials from pursuing personal interest through official action.

Monegan has said he was fired in July after refusing pressure to sack Wooten, who had gone through an acrimonious divorce and custody battle with Palin's sister. View a timeline of the investigation ยป

Palin and her husband, Todd, have consistently denied wrongdoing, describing Wooten as a "rogue trooper" who had threatened their family -- allegations Branchflower discounted.

"I conclude that such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins' real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family reasons," Branchflower wrote.

The Branchflower report states Todd Palin used his wife's office and its resources to press for Wooten's removal, and the governor "failed to act" to stop it. But because Todd Palin is not a state employee, the report makes no finding regarding his conduct.

The bipartisan Legislative Council, which commissioned the investigation after Monegan was fired, unanimously adopted the 263-page public report after a marathon executive session Friday.

About 1,000 more pages of documents compiled during the inquiry will remain confidential because they involve private personnel matters, according to the council's chairman, state Sen. Kim Elton.

"I believe that these findings may help people come to a conclusion on how they should vote" in the presidential election, Elton said.

McCain-Palin campaign spokeswoman Meg Stapleton said Palin would cooperate with the Personnel Board investigation. The Palins' lawyer has said an investigator named by that board wants to question them in late October.

Stapleton called the investigation "a partisan-led inquiry" run by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, but hailed its finding that Monegan's firing broke no law.

"Gov. Palin was cleared of the allegation of an improper firing, which is what this investigation was approved to look into," she said.

Stapleton went on to say that the Legislature exceeded its mandate in finding an ethics violation. "Lacking evidence to support the original Monegan allegation, the Legislative Council seriously overreached, making a tortured argument to find fault without basis in law or fact."

Rep. John Coghill, a Republican who criticized the handling of the investigation, said it was "well-done professionally."

He said Palin "bumped right against the edges" of the state's ethics laws but that he would give "the benefit of the doubt to the governor, though, at this point."

Palin originally agreed to cooperate with the Legislative Council inquiry, and disclosed in August that her advisers had contacted Department of Public Safety officials nearly two dozen times regarding her ex-brother-in-law.

But once she became Sen. John McCain's running mate, her advisers began painting the investigation as a weapon of Democratic partisans.

Ahead of Friday's hearing, Palin supporters wearing clown costumes and carrying balloons denounced the probe as a "kangaroo court" and a "three-ring circus" led by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

The state senator managing the probe, Sen. Hollis French, fueled those complaints with a September 2 interview in which he warned the inquiry could yield an "October Surprise" for the GOP. But Palin's lawyers already had begun pushing for the state Personnel Board to launch its own investigation, calling it the proper legal venue for the matter.

"The report speaks for itself," French told CNN Friday night.


source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/palin.investigation/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:59 pm
@Debra Law,
Quote:
They see RED ... they see a skinhead in a sheriff's uniform inciting them to become angry and violent ... and they cheer and chant,"terrorist!" and "kill him." It's very ugly and frightening.


"They" cheer and chant "terrorist!" and "kill him?"

Who are "they?"

Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:03 pm
@Diest TKO,
I was talking to this woman at work the other day and she admitted that while she has been a life-long Liberal, she's voting for McCain.

I wasn't shocked because I know her to be a reasonable and intelligent woman.

She went on to tell me that she decided to vote for McCain after she took a hard look at Obama.

(Did I mention that I wasn't shocked?)

I wonder when all the other Liberals will take a hard look at Obama.

Diest TKO
 
  1  
Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:24 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I encourage everyone to look at the candidates. I'm very comfortable with people making the same or different choices than myself.

If your assertion is that she is voting McCain because she is a reasonable and intelligent woman, that's fair. To each their own. However, it doesn't mean that people who vote Obama aren't every bit as reasonable and intelligent.

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old europe
 
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Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
"They" cheer and chant "terrorist!" and "kill him?"


"They" do.

Someone yelling "terrorist":



Someone yelling "treason":



Someone yelling "Kill him!":
The Washington Post wrote:
"Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," Palin said.

"Boooo!" said the crowd.

"And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.

"Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.



And more:

AP wrote:
A sense of grievance spilling into rage has gripped some GOP events this week as McCain supporters see his presidential campaign lag against Obama. Some in the audience are making it personal, against the Democrat. Shouts of "traitor," "terrorist," "treason," "liar," and even "off with his head" have rung from the crowd at McCain and Sarah Palin rallies, and gone unchallenged by them.




Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Who are "they?"


I don't know.

Republicans? Conservatives? Rightwing nut jobs? McCain/Palin supporters?

What do you think?
Debra Law
 
  1  
Sat 11 Oct, 2008 12:34 am
@Diest TKO,
Panel: Palin abused power in trooper case

CNN wrote:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) -- Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin abused her power as Alaska's governor and violated state ethics law by trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired from the state police, a state investigator's report concluded Friday. . . .

"Gov. Palin was cleared of the allegation of an improper firing, which is what this investigation was approved to look into," she [McCain-Palin campaign spokeswoman Meg Stapleton] said.

Stapleton went on to say that the Legislature exceeded its mandate in finding an ethics violation. "Lacking evidence to support the original Monegan allegation, the Legislative Council seriously overreached, making a tortured argument to find fault without basis in law or fact."

. . .


Palin's spokeswoman is dishonest. The Legislative Council retained the investigator's services specifically to investigate the facts and circumstances surrounding Monegan's termination and determine whether any government executive abused official power and/or violated the code of ethics. The primary issue was whether Palin abused the power of her high office to place pressure on subordinates to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal reasons. Monegan alleged that Palin had placed pressure on him to fire her former brother-in-law, Trooper Wooten. Thus, the investigator looked into the facts and circumstances and found that Palin did, in fact, abuse her power and committed an ethical violation. The law was clearly defined and the facts amply supported a finding that Palin violated the law.

* * *

Report--Excerpts from pp. 65-67:

Quote:
CONCLUSION

Governor Sarah Palin

The policy underlying Alaska's Ethics Act is to discourage executive branch employees from acting upon personal interests in the performance of their public responsibilities and to avoid conflicts of interest in the performance of duty. The Act makes clear that compliance with the code of ethics creates a burden on each executive branch employee that is personal in nature

Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional. . . .

The evidence supports the conclusion that Governor Palin, at the least, engaged in "official action" by her inaction if not by her active participation or assistance to her husband in attempting to get Trooper Wooten fired [and there is evidence of her active participation]. She knowingly, as that term is defined in the above cited statutes, permitted Todd Palin to use the Governor's office and the resources of the Governor's office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired. Her conduct violated AS 39.52.110(a) of the Ethics Act. . . .

Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired. She had the authority and power to require Mr. Palin to cease contacting subordinates, but she failed to act.

Such impermissible and repeated contacts create conflicts of interests for subordinate employees who must choose either to please a superior or run the risk of facing that superior's displeasure and possible consequences of such displeasure. This is one of the very reasons the Ethics Act was promulgated by the Legislature. . . .

In this case, Governor Palin has declined to provide an interview. An interview would have assisted everyone to better understand her motives and perhaps help explain why she was so apparently intent upon getting Trooper Wooten fired in spite of the fact she knew he ad been disciplined following the Administrative Investigation. She also knew that he had been permitted to keep his job, and that the disciplinary investigation was closed and could not be reopened. Yet she allowed the pressure from her husband, to try to get Trooper Wooten fired, to continue unabated over a several month-period of time.

Governor Palin has stated publicly that she and her family feared Trooper Wooten. Yet the evidence presented has been inconsistent with such claims of fear. The testimony from Trooper Wheeler, who was part of her security detail from the start, was that shortly after elected to office, she ordered a substantial reduction in manpower in her personal protection detail in both Anchorage and Juneau, an act that is inconsistent with a desire to avoid harm from Trooper Wooten or others. Moreover, assuming that Trooper Wooten was ever inclined to attack Governor Palin or a family member, logic dictates that getting him fired would accomplish nothing to eliminate the potential for harm to her or her family. On the contrary, it might just precipitate some retaliatory conduct on his part. Causing Wooten to loose [sic] his job would not have de-escalated the situation, or provided her or her family with greater security.

Finally, it is noteworthy that almost every contact with subordinate employees, Mr. Palin's comments were couched in terms of his desire to see Trooper Wooten fired for reasons that had nothing to do with fear....

I conclude that such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins' real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family related reasons....

For all the above reasons, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power as Governor in that her conduct violated AS 39.52.110(a) of the Ethics Act.


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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Sat 11 Oct, 2008 01:39 am
@Diest TKO,
Quote:
However, it doesn't mean that people who vote Obama aren't every bit as reasonable and intelligent.


You are absolutely right. It doesn't.

There is some question though whether or not certain Obama supporters can recognized sarcasm.
 

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