FreeDuck
 
  3  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 10:07 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Maybe that will change with Palin in The White House Cool


Is she the presidential candidate now? Or did you mean "with Palin at the Naval Observatory".
DontTreadOnMe
 
  4  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 01:24 pm
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:

Maybe that will change with Palin in The White House Cool


Is she the presidential candidate now? Or did you mean "with Palin at the Naval Observatory".


you'd think so, wouldn't you?

tell ya one thing, though. as much as i like mccain, it becomes clearer to me that with each speech that i see him give, that he is absolutely too old for the job.

which takes me back to the thought that he is only a trojan horse for a less moderate veep to gain the oval office without being elected for that position.

and there's no denying that palin is far less moderate.

cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 01:44 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
That's not a less moderate veep; after all McCain picked her knowing where she stood on conservative issues. If anything, she's an extremist veep who believes in a) the voice of god, b) right to life, c) censorship in our public libraries, d) promotion of creationism, and e) pro and con bridge to nowhere.
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FreeDuck
 
  4  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 01:52 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
... and has the same penchant for secrecy, disinterest in complex national issues, and valuation of loyalty over competence as another ex-governor of an oil rich state we know.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 02:09 pm
@FreeDuck,
The only other person who would have picked Palin for veep is Bush; he's shown his penchant for picking incompetent people too! The conservatives have a history of it including what happened at the Justice Department under Gonzales.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 02:26 pm
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:

... and has the same penchant for secrecy, disinterest in complex national issues, and valuation of loyalty over competence as another ex-governor of an oil rich state we know.


and that's exactly why the rnc went along with the evangelicals to place her.

she's dubby in drag.
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Advocate
 
  4  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 04:07 pm
I think people are quickly learning that Palin is an empty pantsuit.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 04:11 pm
@Advocate,
I'm glad you didn't say "blouse."
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Ramafuchs
 
  0  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 04:21 pm
@firefly,
Think of the Americans who stand in Q for bread abd butter.
Think of those who were butched, tortured, raped in the name of spreading DEMOCRACY.

My respect for BUSH who had made usa a puny, pathic, banal country.
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firefly
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 04:57 pm
@Advocate,
Sarah Palin, Queen of the Alaskan Frontier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRnOHsRS48&watch_response
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hawkeye10
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 05:03 pm
Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has not faced the U.S. media since her surprise pick to run for vice president 10 days ago, will begin giving interviews in a "few days," Republican presidential nominee John McCain said in remarks aired on Sunday.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/washington/politics-usa-politics-palin-media.html
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 05:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
It'll be interesting to watch if the media people ask her about her flip-flops and lies.
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 05:37 pm
@hawkeye10,

Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has not faced the U.S. media since her surprise pick to run for vice president 10 days ago, will begin giving interviews in a "few days," Republican presidential nominee John McCain said in remarks aired on Sunday.

Anyone else have a flashback to the move "Dave" where he's getting lectured on the basics of the three branches of government?
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 05:42 pm
@DrewDad,
ya, I was think that the other day. The really scary thing is that if Mccain gets elected there a decent chance Palin will at some point become President.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 05:57 pm
@hawkeye10,
Maybe the conservatives aren't worried, because it'll only be an extension of the Bush legacy. How much more can an incompetent screw up our country? Aren't we at the bottom yet?
okie
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 06:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
McCain 48 to 45, ci.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/07/gallup-daily-poll-gives-mccain-largest-margin-since-ma-over-obama/
old europe
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 06:45 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%

McCain enjoying increase in support following convention

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/080907DailyUpdateGraph1_s4m7a9.gif

These results are based on Sept. 4-6 interviewing, and include two full days of polling after the conclusion of the Republican National Convention last Thursday night. McCain has outpolled Obama on both Friday and Saturday, and is receiving a convention bounce just as Obama did last week.

Tomorrow's report will be the first in which all interviews were conducted after the conclusion of the convention. Gallup measures convention bounces by comparing candidate support in the last poll done entirely before a party's presidential nominating convention begins with the first polling conducted entirely after its conclusion.

McCain's 48% share of the vote ties for his largest since Gallup tracking began in early March. He registered the same level of support in early May. This is also McCain's largest advantage over Obama since early May, when he led by as much as six percentage points. Obama has led McCain for most of the campaign, and for nearly all of the time since clinching the Democratic nomination in early June. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.) -- Jeff Jones
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 06:45 pm
@okie,
okie, Your link on the latest poll shows different numbers than "this" one:

Poll: Convention lifts McCain over Obama
Posted 1h 14m ago |

By Susan Page, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON " The Republican National Convention has given John McCain and his party a significant boost, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken over the weekend shows, as running mate Sarah Palin helps close an "enthusiasm gap" that has dogged the GOP all year.

McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.
okie
 
  2  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 06:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Thats about an 11 point bounce, going from 7 down to 4 up, alot better than the Obama bounce. That suggests that the RNC convention or more exposure of the Repub ticket was more effective than that of Obama and the Democrat ticket.

I think this explains why Obama is going into the attack mode alot more, he knows he might be in trouble.

If the Dems blow this again, the Dems and Obama are going to be some very mad people. They will set about to destroy McCain Palen from Day 1, just as much or more than they did George W. Bush.

I guess I should cross that bridge when we get to it. The race has only begun.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 7 Sep, 2008 06:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You misunderstand the game, paralysis of Washington works to the advantage of certain very powerful interests, those who don't want change and those who are running very profitable skimming operations on the American economy (think hedge funds and the wealthy who use them as one example).

many people have commented that what hillary did to Barrack primarily was to screw up his mandate, to make it impossible for him to take command of Washington and reform it. McCain is one that will piss and whine but he has never actively tried to conduct reform, and he will not change his stripes this late in life .

Things have been rigged so that the American people will not over the next four years confront those who are ripping off the society. The mission has been accomplished. Considering that a president McCain will likely die in office a weak VP needed to be picked to prevent problems. Mission accomplished.

What the american voters forget is that in modern politics there are two elections, the fundrasing and the votes. The money election largly determines who the voters decide between.
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