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@okie,

okie wrote:

Thats about an 11 point bounce, going from 7 down to 4 up, alot better than the Obama bounce.

That's some very weird math you're using there, okie.

@old europe,

I could be wrong, but I did a very quick calculation given the link posted by ci, that said:

McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.

My math shows that if McCain trailed by 7 just before the RNC, and he is ahead by 4, thats an 11 point swing, or bounce. Isn't that how bounces are calculated, the difference between the candidates? My calculation applies only to the USA Today numbers that ci referred to. Other polls would show differing bounces or swings.

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@okie,

okie, It's ironic that you use the word "mad" about Obama rather than McCain. LOL McCain has told his own republican colleague "fxxx you."

These same colleagues are gonna support McCain? ROFL

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@cicerone imposter,

I don't know what context you are talking about, ci. I was talking about the Dems and Obama being mad if they lose.

In regard to McCain telling his own party to get lost, or whatever, I think the party is coming around to being solidly behind McCain. If I am any judge of how other people think, I was not a McCain supporter, but I also realize McCain is all I have, and I also respect McCain alot more than the opposition, and I trust McCain, he is a known quantity, even if he does stuff I don't agree with, and I figure perhaps we can work on him, we can try to convince him from our own party to do what we believe to be the right course, whereas there would be no hope of doing that with the Democrats as they are hopelessly in the tank of leftie elitist liberals and lawyers.

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@cicerone imposter,

Growing Democrat Desperation is Evident.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

My math shows that if McCain trailed by 7 just before the RNC, and he is ahead by 4, thats an 11 point swing, or bounce. Isn't that how bounces are calculated, the difference between the candidates?

Well, that's right. It's just a weird situation this year, as the conventions were back to back. So the situation before the RNC is at the same time the situation right after the DNC, and would likely reflect whatever bounce Obama got from the Democratic convention.

It's therefore not at all clear if the situation before the RNC correctly reflects the "baseline" for McCain.

I guess it would make just as much sense to wait for McCain to gain another couple of points, and then measure that against the baseline of polling before both the RNC and the DNC to get a correct picture of how much of a bounce the candidates got from their conventions.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Growing Democrat Desperation is Evident.

Especially if the bounce grows another point or two tomorrow, H2OMAN. Their leftie buddies will be huddled with their journalist friends, plotting what they will do next. Katie bar the door. Poor John McCain thought the press liked him, he is in for a big surprise, or perhaps he is already seeing the light. They only used him, when he criticized his fellow Republicans.

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@old europe,

I agree, to really judge a true bounce, perhaps there would be more time needed for the numbers to settle back.

I look for the race to settle back into a virtual tie after a few days again. Then it will be up to the debates and just how much traction certain ads may have, and also what mud might stick. I also think the media has a tremendous edge, helping Obama, but the mainstream media seems to be losing their credibility, and for good reason in my opinion. In past elections, I have read that the media was worth about 15 points, and so the Republicans have always been at a disadvantage in recent decades, but still compete very well in the presidential race because of direct exposure of the candidates to the people. That circumvents to some extent the influence of the press.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

I also think the media has a tremendous edge, helping Obama

Is that an impression you got recently - since McCain picked Palin - or is that an opinion you've been holding since the press went after Obama in the primaries?

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@DrewDad,

Laughing....sorta desperate, huh, Drew?

When women are paid equally for the same job a man does.....I'll no longer consider them a minority.

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

okie wrote:
I also think the media has a tremendous edge, helping Obama

Is that an impression you got recently - since McCain picked Palin - or is that an opinion you've been holding since the press went after Obama in the primaries?

Thats not an impression, thats a fact, and its been that way for a very long time, oe. It is a known fact that the vast majority of journalists are liberal leaning. In regard to Clinton vs Obama, I think as Obama gained credence, it is my impression that they switched allegiances to Obama, or at least enough switched allegiance to Obama, and that the press has alot invested into Obama. I know the Clinton people were complaining of media bias against them, and I think some of the complaints had merit, but of course this was in contrast to the Clintons being so used to being in the good graces of the press that any opposition against them - they would notice alot.

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It's been 9 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes and _ _ seconds since Sarah Plain has spoken to the press. Do you know where your candidate is hiding? Do you know why?

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

It's been 9 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes and _ _ seconds since Sarah Plain has spoken to the press. Do you know where your candidate is hiding? Do you know why?

She's not hiding, she's campaigning Cool

If you don't like that answer, feel free to use any of the chicken **** excuses
your candidate used to evade pre convention town hall meetings with McCain.

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They're fitting Sarah Barracuda with a new set of dentures as we speak. But it takes time for John to ram thru new funding.

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@H2O MAN,

Kevin, as it's been pointed out to you before, McCain also turned down Obama's suggested meetings.

It's all square.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Thats not an impression, thats a fact, and its been that way for a very long time, oe.

Then you should be able to back it up, right?

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@Diest TKO,

Diest TKO wrote:

McCain also turned down Obama's suggested meetings.

Obama had no town hall meetings until well after McCain had invited Obama to join him.
Also, Obama's so called meetings had many restrictions that McCain's did not.

Obama used every chicken **** excuse he could come up with to avoid and evade McCain's invitations.

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McCain's site has a Coalitions drop down menu. I wanna join the Racing Fans for McCain coalition.

And it actually says, "John McCain - A leader we can believe in"

The question for republicans is, "For how many minutes?" What if we miss the memo that details his polar shifts?"

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@JTT,

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/b/A/2/latest-gizmo-lk0620ad.jpg

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@Lash,

And you'll still be just as wrong so long as you consider women a minority.

Again, discrimination Not Equal

minority status.

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