Lash
 
  3  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:21 pm
@old europe,
I just saw. Yes. Surprisingly, so is McCain.

Disgusting. ...and stupid.
old europe
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:22 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Yeah. Maporshe is correct. Firefly said this:

This is a 17 year old child who was not practicing abstinence or birth control. Does that reflect on Palin's parenting abilities? Her values? What example of family life is she presenting to the country?


Yup. And I said that it'd be difficult to practise abstinence and get pregnant..... So, while we don't know whether or not she's been using birth control, we do know that she wasn't practising abstinence...

Wink
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:23 pm
My take on the anti-abortion crowd is that no abortions! and no birth control! are the standards; they don't really care if teenagers get pregnant.
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old europe
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:27 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I just saw. Yes. Surprisingly, so is McCain.

Disgusting. ...and stupid.


Yes, McCain is in favour of abstinence-only, and in favour of teaching abstinence-only in schools...

Would have assumed that that goes for Palin, too.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:30 pm
@old europe,
She was in her 2006 run, for sure!

This is a net negative for them; if for no other reason then the fact that they whispered the news out on Labor day, on a slow news day. Why not shout it out if you are proud of it?

Cycloptichorn
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hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:42 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
McCain's wife Cindy McCain said on ABC's "This Week" program that Palin had knowledge about Russia because her state is the closest U.S. state to Russia.

"Remember, Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia. So it's not as if she doesn't understand what's at stake here," she said.


compaired to
Quote:
Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “extremely responsive and smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.

But in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.

http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/512355.html

And Cindy McCain was allowed to play a big role in picking the VP, even though she clearly does not understand the basics of how American Government works nor in what Palin has done in Alaska....
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DontTreadOnMe
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:44 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I just saw. Yes. Surprisingly, so is McCain.

Disgusting. ...and stupid.


agreed. and irresponsible to boot.
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Rockhead
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:47 pm
The really cool thing is...

McCain was aware of all of this prior to his choice, as his statements have made clear. Wink

I hope he enjoys the places this takes him as it plays out.

(I know I will)
hawkeye10
 
  3  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:52 pm
@Rockhead,
He claims he knew in spite of the fact that his people have said that Palin was the only one of the final group that had no one supporting her as the pick, that no one seriously though she might be picked, and that she was only picked in the last few days. A tag to this is that nobody in Alaska thought she would Be picked either, because McCains people never bothered to talk to any of them to check out Palin. Very responsible governance on the part of McCain, don't you think??
Rockhead
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 01:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
Gram always said, "if ya got nothin' nice to say...
DontTreadOnMe
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:12 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

Gram always said, "if ya got nothin' nice to say...


gram wasn't a political adviser, i take it? Laughing
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Butrflynet
 
  5  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:24 pm
Obama to Media, Politicos on Palin Pregnancy Story: 'Back Off!'
September 01, 2008 2:28 PM
At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin's statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."

Asked about the insinuation from the McCain campaign that the liberal bloggers trafficking in rumors about Palin write for websites that mention Obama, the senator said, "I'm offended by that."

The Democratic presidential nominee said, "There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. I hope I am as clear as can be - so in case I'm not, let me repeat: We don't go after people's families, we don't get them involved in the politics. It's not appropriate and it's not relevant."

Concluded Obama before getting on his campaign bus headed to Milwaukee, Wisc., "Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired."

-Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-to-media.html
eoe
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:27 pm
@Butrflynet,
And that's the kind of man HE is.
That's my president!
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Debra Law
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:31 pm
Palin made an announcement that her daughter, Bristol, is currently about five months pregnant as a means to combat the rumors that Bristol is Trig's real mother? How does this new vague information counteract the rumors in any manner whatsoever?

Palin, who did not appear pregnant at all, announced that she was about seven months pregnant on March 18, 2008. Trig was reportedly born just one month later on April 18, 2008. Therefore, the baby was either premature or Sarah Palin's alleged pregnancy was far more advanced than she alleged. During all those months of alleged pregnancy, not one person had any indication that Sarah Palin was undergoing a high-risk pregnancy.

Merely announcing that Bristol is currently about five months pregnant does not dispel the probability that Bristol Palin, rather than Sarah Palin, is Trig's natural mother. A sufficient amount of time has passed since Trig's birth for Trig's natural mother to be pregnant again. A sexually active teenager who does not practice "safe sex," and who had her newborn ripped from her arms, might be inclined to immediately replace the baby that was stolen from her with another baby.

Sarah Palin's annoucement does more to confirm the rumors than to dispel them.
Debra Law
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:41 pm
@sozobe,
Sozobe wrote: "Meanwhile, the rumor seems to be debunked here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2814199887/"

Nice picture of baby bump. Looks like a possible episode from Desperate Housewives:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article947380.ece

ROFL


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littlek
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:51 pm
I though pregnancies of older mothers were statistically more likely to produce DS babies than pregnancies of younger moms.
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maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:52 pm
@Debra Law,
jesus-*******-christ Rolling Eyes
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Cycloptichorn
 
  3  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:12 pm
MSNBC reports just now that Palin has lawyered up in the Troopergate investigation.

Necessary, but never looks good...

Cycloptichorn
sozobe
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:43 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
And evidently the "McCain knew" thing is now somewhat suspect. Two accounts:

Quote:
Reporters at the Republican national convention hammered McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt about the Palin pregnancy during a press conference. All Schmidt would say is Palin and McCain had discussed the pregnancy and considered it to be a private matter.

He wouldn't say if they talked about it before McCain picked Palin as his vice presidential nominee.

"I answered that question nine times," he said.


http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/512560.html

Quote:
Top McCain campaign official Steve Schmidt told a scrum of reporters in St. Paul that McCain was aware of Bristol Palin's pregnancy "last week," though he would not say specifically which day last week.

"Senator McCain was aware of this private family matter last week," he said, adding that the senator and governor "had a private conversation" where McCain "became aware" that Palin's daughter was pregnant. Schmidt was repeatedly asked whether McCain knew of the daughter's condition before the announcement on Friday, and each time he used a variation of, "He became aware last week in a private conversation."


Last week as in Saturday? Friday afternoon? What?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/01/1322343.aspx
Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 03:44 pm
@sozobe,
Yup. Their story isn't adding up.

And what did people expect them to say, that McCain didn't know? Please.

Cycloptichorn
 

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