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Obama is an elitist

 
 
old europe
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2008 04:01 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

I find it funny that you think I've chosen a side. Tell us how you came to this conclusion.


You mean you're not sure you're going to vote for McCain?
parados
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2008 04:07 pm
@H2O MAN,
I guess you could be a lone lunatic.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2008 04:09 pm
@old europe,
Correct.
old europe
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2008 04:15 pm
@H2O MAN,
So, assuming you're going to vote at all, who would you consider?
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2008 04:22 pm
@Ramafuchs,
Of course, Obama is an elitist. (As are Clinton and McCain.)

And he has been put on notice by the Powers That Be that they have no problem with him being among their ranks, as long as he doesn’t go rattling off at the mouth about those the rigged system benefits and those it kicks daily in the gut.

Because in a political culture as far down the rabbit hole as is this one, the surest way to be branded an elitist is to refuse to serve the elite. (Not that Obama threatened any such thing.)

This is the modus operandi of the lacquered, autoerotic dudes and dolls of the corporate media and the K Street cash-flushed phonies of the American political classes: Pose as protecters of the beer-bleary multitudes, as, all the while, carrying vintage Cabernet for a privileged few.

This is not a situation fraught with layers of ambiguity in which any deeper meaning can be mined: Below the corporate media’s electronic cloud of nebulous phoniness lies a dense core of calcified phoniness.

Thus it is difficult not to harbor contempt for this cartel of narcissistic strivers who have networked the nation into a perpetual state of cataclysmic ignorance.

Seemingly, their creed is: Let the ignorant multitudes languish on the low nutrient, junk news we serve them from the drive thru windows of our corporate media outlets, while the political and business elite cannibalize what is left of the republic.

http://philrockstroh.com/2008/05/13/fastened-to-a-dying-animala-short-jeremiad-regarding-that-affront-to-the-nations-dignity-known-as-the-us-election-process/
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 08:36 am
Maureen Dowd does "noun, verb, POW" (excerpt):

Quote:
So it’s hard to believe that John McCain is now in danger of exceeding his credit limit on the equivalent of an American Express black card. His campaign is cheapening his greatest strength " and making a mockery of his already dubious claim that he’s reticent to talk about his P.O.W. experience " by flashing the P.O.W. card to rebut any criticism, no matter how unrelated. The captivity is already amply displayed in posters and TV advertisements.

The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, the pastor who married Jenna Bush and who is part of a new Christian-based political action committee supporting Obama, recently criticized the joke McCain made at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally encouraging Cindy to enter the topless Miss Buffalo Chip contest. The McCain spokesman Brian Rogers brought out the bottomless excuse, responding with asperity that McCain’s character had been “tested and forged in ways few can fathom.”

When the Obama crowd was miffed to learn that McCain was in a motorcade rather than in a “cone of silence” while Obama was being questioned by Rick Warren, Nicolle Wallace of the McCain camp retorted, “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous.”

When Obama chaffed McCain for forgetting how many houses he owns, Rogers huffed, “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years " in prison.”

As Sam Stein notes in The Huffington Post: “The senator has even brought his military record into discussion of his music tastes. Explaining that his favorite song was ‘Dancing Queen’ by Abba, he offered that his knowledge of music ‘stopped evolving when his plane intercepted a surface-to-air missile.’ ‘Dancing Queen,’ however, was produced in 1975, eight years after McCain’s plane was shot down.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/opinion/24dowd.html

I frequently disagree with Dowd but I do think that's a pretty telling collection of quotes.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 11:55 am
@dyslexia,
Good grief, this stuff, again? Only 29% of Americans hold a college degree. Oddly, 30% of the American population is generally considered to be the decison making class in American society, so just about anybody who holds a college degree is considered "elitist."
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 12:17 pm
@old europe,
Quote:
So, assuming you're going to vote at all, who would you consider?


Many registered Democrats are refusing to vote for Obama and I support them.

My state will defiantly go for McCain and I don't currently see a reason to vote.
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 02:21 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O
You wish to change the rotten American system by changing your sides?
Or
are you with me and other global observers of your hollywood drama to make a real USA which is congenial without language, colour, religious prejudices.
Here is one American who is with me.
Read and retort.
Here's an historic speech by a noted African-American leader on August 28, 1963:


I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

....This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring."

And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!

Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado!


And here's what we will see in Colorado when another noted African-American leader delivers an historic speech there on August 28, 2008:


Individuals arrested at the Democratic National Convention will be processed at an industrial warehouse with chain-link cells topped by razor wire, a facility some have compared to the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay.

Groups planning marches, concerts and other events during the Aug. 25-28 convention dub the center "Gitmo on the Platte," for the nearby South Platte River...Video footage of the north Denver warehouse on Denver's KCNC-TV showed coils of razor wire topping chain-link cells. A sign read: "Electric stun devices used here."

[Sheriff's spokesman Capt. Frank] Gale said each cell will be about 20-by-20 feet. He refused to say how many people could be processed there.

"It's just ridiculous, the thing looks like a dog pound," said Mark Cohen of the protest group Recreate-68 Alliance. "Even if you only put dogs in there, people will be complaining about it. I think you ought to have the Red Cross and Amnesty International come take a look at this thing."


And there's more:


And you thought it was just Republicans that wanted to stifle free speech.

"The infamous "free speech zone," set to make a comeback at Denver's upcoming Democratic National Convention, needs to be within earshot of delegates, a coalition of civil liberties advocates backed by the ACLU said [last month]. Chain link fencing or chicken wire at the end of the parade route, about 700 feet away from the Pepsi Center under the current plan, would separate demonstrators and protesters from other convention attendees, the Rocky Mountain News reported.

"No human voice, or any other sound," ACLU counsel said in Monday's amended complaint, "can ever hope to reach a person at the entrance."


The ACLU and other groups filed suit against the plan to protect the delicate shell-like ears of top Democrats from any unseemly criticism or unkind remarks. But they lost the case:


Protesters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver can be restricted to fenced-in areas, federal judge ruled on Wednesday, saying that security needs outweighed curbs on their rights...

U.S. District Judge Marcia Krieger agreed that the protesters would suffer some infringement on their freedom of expression but said those interests had to be balanced with security concerns.

"The restrictions inhibit the plaintiffs' ability to engage in some forms of expressive conduct, (but) ... the plaintiffs have a wide variety of alternative means of expression that will allow them to effectively communicate their messages," Krieger wrote in her 71-page ruling.


Why yes -- they can always send Barack a text message! Or maybe they can form a Facebook group. Or even write a blog post! All Americans are perfectly free to express their opinions in any venue whatsoever -- as long it is a venue which the high and mighty can ignore at their own discretion. Let their freedom ring, yes -- but let everybody else shut up. Let each and every one of us outside the golden circle of power lower our heads, muffle our voices, and keep well away when our betters are passing by. We must not disturb their party, we must not trouble their repose, we must not speak to them of what they have done, of what they countenanced, and of what they have most miserably failed to do.

Martin Luther King Jr. walked down the middle of hostile streets, through crowds spewing hatred at him, howling for his blood; he faced down police bayonets and the power of the state. Now our modern-day heroes can't bear to allow a few critical words within 700 feet of their pampered selves.

What a falling-off is there! Looks like we'll have to keep on dreaming that dream, Brother Martin; the chimes of freedom are sounding more distant than ever.
http://www.chris-floyd.com/
okie
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2008 10:56 pm
@Ramafuchs,
Ramafuchs, did you know MLK was a Republican?

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why%20MLK%20was%20a%20Republican

"It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism."
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 02:39 pm
@okie,
belittling MLK with the party affliations will never make USA's commerce- i mean image- better.
I wish that USA should change( read learn) DEMOCRACY without this showbuesiness.
The first step to learn democracy is from Afganisthan followed by Iraq.
.Rama
okie
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 09:12 pm
@Ramafuchs,
I didn't belittle MLK, I was complimenting him, and simply stating facts.
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 09:16 pm
@okie,
My namskar
my regards, respects.
Danke and thank you.
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