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A good cry on the train

 
 
Joe Nation
 
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Thu 6 Nov, 2008 05:02 am
Oz would be a very nice to be just now. It's coming on Spring there, right? Instead of facing Northerly winds filled with little darts of ice, we could all be lying on oceanside sand somewhere, nicely buttered on all sides with coconut oil scented sunscreen and clutching a Mai-Tai.
Instead, I am composing proposals to Real Estate Lawyers.

Joe(Where's that travel brochure folder?)Nation
spikepipsqueak
 
  1  
Thu 6 Nov, 2008 06:24 am
@Joe Nation,
Does this mean you have to actually sell up to split everything down the middle, Joe?

...or have you fallen madly in love with a Real Estate Lawyer?
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Tai Chi
 
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Thu 6 Nov, 2008 07:50 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:
clutching a Mai-Tai.
Joe(Where's that travel brochure folder?)Nation


<snort> sun and sand sound good about now Wink

Seriously -- do you have to sell? Could one upside of the current slump mean that you should wait it out (and won't have to start packing anytime soon)? (Or you could buy your soon-to-be-ex's half for a lot less?) (Trying to put a rosy spin on it -- a trip to Oz would probably work better.)

(Mai)Tai-me-kangaroo-down-Chi
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margo
 
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Thu 6 Nov, 2008 07:18 pm
Well - it's bloody lovely here now - best time of the hear. Come on down!

It's still too cold in the water to swim (unless you're cold blooded) - but there's plenty of lounging around in the sun that needs doing! Someone has to do it!

Get away from your problems - and the extreme behaviour that seems rampant after the election.
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ossobuco
 
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Thu 6 Nov, 2008 08:03 pm
I think I remember figuring out that Dlowan was something like ( - ) 6 hours but the next day ... but that was when I lived in California.

Wait, I'll go stare at a world clock.
margo
 
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Thu 6 Nov, 2008 08:26 pm
@ossobuco,
Well - it's 1.23pm here right now - and Deb is 30 minutes behind me! (I know - it's odd - but it is South Australia she lives in!)
ossobuco
 
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Thu 6 Nov, 2008 09:15 pm
@margo,
So I wasn't that far off..
since I said I'd look at the clock, I ended up doing software updates, time passed.. so more or less seven hours behind/tomorrow. (8:14 pm here)
Izzie
 
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Fri 7 Nov, 2008 12:42 pm
@Joe Nation,
Hey Joe (how are you love?) Nation

So sorry ... been "journeying" the last few days and remiss in popping aboard the train.... hoping all is coco with you... and PDawg... how's it going in your world mate Question

Well Joe... told you some things... and here's how we're stepping forward at the moment, some of your crew here know of our Tulip so am posting this as she's taking a little time out right now to come to terms with "stuff" - but she's doing OK... kinda... so proud of her

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q05ohA40qio

explanation: http://able2know.org/topic/111721-481#post-3466050



So what're you up to this weekend? Plans????????

Spike - chooks.... I think it's a good plan, maybe in the Spring when the weather improves a little... can already picture them in my head. Very Happy

So lovely to see everyone on here - you're doing great Joe...

keep on keeping on - there's a whole new world for you to explore yet.

Have a great weekend!

Iz (oooooooooooh it's so chilly outside...goes to make hot chocolate) zie. x




margo
 
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Fri 7 Nov, 2008 03:19 pm
@ossobuco,
Osso - at present -you are 6 hours ahead and one day behind.
But we have daylight savings!
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Joe Nation
 
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Fri 7 Nov, 2008 06:21 pm
@Izzie,
What a lovely day you all had, Izzie. I've been thinking about you and your little family all this dizzying week, I just haven't had a moment to put my best thoughts together.

I was so moved by the shots of the balloons flying away.

I was so moved and I don't know what secret place in my soul those touched, but they did.

This had been a crazy seven days, the election electrified this nation, work has been one weird thing after another, I'm preparing for a big meeting of my Co-op Board next week, my son announced he is the center of a huge lawsuit against a former employer, Annie (my friend) insisted that he (my son) join us in Florida for Christmas, so we did all the air flight arrangements today, (This will be the best Christmas ever)and I've received a long weepy note from my soon-to-be ex about how we were friends once. Yes. Once. As in Once upon a Time.

More very soon, IZ, but today has been a little running (Yes! 60 degrees F and no wind) a little grocery shopping and several long naps which I needed more than life.

Joe(I feel a little unwrapped)Nation
spikepipsqueak
 
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Sun 9 Nov, 2008 07:52 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe,

Just hoping your swaddling bands are wrapping you tightly again. (we can all use a little security)
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Izzie
 
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Mon 10 Nov, 2008 05:42 pm
@Joe Nation,
Hey Joe (off to FL for Chrissie - how happy is that?) Nation

mmmmm.... Once Upon A Time a????? well, you're on a new chapter, whole new world now and doing just great mate!

Take care lovely

hey to all the JNcrew... Pdawg... how's you?

Iz (napping is good) zie

patiodog
 
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Mon 10 Nov, 2008 07:02 pm
@Izzie,
I'm all right, just reading along.

Really there are parts of this pseudo bachelorhood that I enjoy. Fer instance, one of my least favorite questions is, "How was your day?"

Blah, if I wanted to talk about work, I would.

Now I'm fresh home from work, eating dinner, watching sports highlights, drinking a beer, and none of the dogs has asked me how my day was. Well, one of them did sniff at the fresh bite on my hand, but he didn't ask about it...
CalamityJane
 
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Mon 10 Nov, 2008 07:16 pm
@patiodog,
Oy patio, I thought after your last post that things were shaping up again -
hopefully it still will work out in the long run.

Joe, isn't this the icing on your cake, when your pain inflicting, I-want-a-divorce-ex is sobbing now for your friendship?

Calamity(everyone gets what they deserve, don't they?)Jane
Joe Nation
 
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Tue 11 Nov, 2008 04:41 am
@CalamityJane,
The Pdog is correct about this being alone ain't so damned bad stuff. I may have said this before but, under the hurt, was a really odd feeling of relief.
I don't have to be home on time except when the grocery guy is coming to drop off the boxes containing only the stuff I want to eat. (So deliciously selfish of me!)
===
And,

wait, there's background to this one:
My friend, Skip, who I have known since high school, (we weren't friends then but are now) .... anyway, he came over to the city on Sunday and picked me up in his new car.
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/saturn_sky_redline_2009_other_23_346x270.jpg
Wha!!
Yes.
Very zoomie!!
We went very fast back over the bridge and through the New Jersey woods... VVVvvrrroooommm.
Stopped at a sports bar, got burgers and beers and watched football.
We talked.
I said I had a list of affirmations taped to my bathroom mirror.
"Yeah?" he said, "like what?"
Like I say "I'm sorry." only when I've actually done something wrong.
"Spoken like every ex-married man in America, " he said holding his glass high.
.....and, I thought, probably most of all the ex-married women.

We do beat ourselves silly sometimes for what we think is love.

==
CJ said
Quote:
Joe, isn't this the icing on your cake, when your pain inflicting, I-want-a-divorce-ex is sobbing now for your friendship?


'tis.

Joe(It's not sweet tasting though, not yet.)Nation
patiodog
 
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Tue 11 Nov, 2008 06:23 am
@Joe Nation,
Quote:
Like I say "I'm sorry." only when I've actually done something wrong.


Doesn't the married "I'm sorry" include a tacit "(that you're so fucked in the head that this pisses you off)?" I thought it did...
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ossobuco
 
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Tue 11 Nov, 2008 09:40 am
@patiodog,
I get your irritability about "how was your day?" It sounds churlish.. but I think of it as some kind of pattern language that cuts into real flow. Not that I'm some expert, given my own marriage eventually plotzed, but for many years each person's coming home was a decompression time, or, sometimes an ebulliant description time - and we talked about work or ignored it completely depending on moods and other interests or need for quiet.
I definitely remember not wanting to elaborate on clinical lab tensions twenty minutes after driving away from them. True that one can say, oh, it was shitty, let's talk about something else, but .. we preferred quiet first. The trick to that, though, is not to have the quiet last forever.
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ossobuco
 
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Tue 11 Nov, 2008 09:43 am
@Joe Nation,
Good sentence:

We do beat ourselves silly sometimes for what we think is love.

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farmerman
 
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Tue 11 Nov, 2008 09:50 am
As you compare yourself less to what you were in your previous married state, you will recover more and more.

I think that youre trying to validate yourself too much Joe. You are a great writer and should use this space she provided you to go through some creative bursts. I found my "interrelationship times" as most productive, the minor sadnesses helped the creativity process.
ossobuco
 
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Tue 11 Nov, 2008 10:01 am
@farmerman,
Good point too. I started studio art classes back in '71 when I was out of my mind with heartbreak. That equipped me with some creativity tools for the rest of my years - not that people always need some class to help them be creative, but that the intensity of those early classes and my enthusiasm for them was a real help.
 

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