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McCain is blowing his election chances.

 
 
slkshock7
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2008 09:23 am
@okie,
Okie,
did you catch that last paragraph from Rasmussen, especially the last sentence that I've quoted below comparing the Repub VP candidate and the Dem Presidential candidate and finding them equally experienced.

Quote:
Fifty-one percent (51%) of voters now believe that McCain made the right choice when he picked Palin to be his running mate while 32% disagree. By way of comparison, 47% said that Obama made the right choice by picking Delaware Senator Joe Biden as his running mate. Voters are evenly divided as to whether Palin or Obama has the better experience to be President.



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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 08:28 am
Of late, I have grown more confident in the McCain campaign. The only real hurdles left are the debates (Who knws when they are? Please posts date sand times if you do.) and the election.

I am looking forward to the debates and hope they are not dull, but with these 2, I fail to see how they could be.
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 08:32 am
@McGentrix,
Debates:

September 26th: Obama/ McCain

October 2nd: Biden/ Palin

October 7th: Obama/ McCain (town hall format)

October 15th: Obama/ McCain

Haven't found times anywhere yet tho. TBA maybe?
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 08:49 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

Debates:

September 26th: Obama/ McCain

October 2nd: Biden/ Palin

October 7th: Obama/ McCain (town hall format)

October 15th: Obama/ McCain

Haven't found times anywhere yet tho. TBA maybe?


Thank you so much! I was far too lazy to look them up myself. Embarrassed
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 10:16 am
@McGentrix,
No prob!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 11:15 am
@McGentrix,
McG, It's interesting how you view this campaign period, and not see all the lies perpetrated against the American People.

Did you watch the Gibson-Palin interview yesterday? Did Palin lie at any of Gibson's questions?
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slkshock7
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 03:04 pm
For the first time, I see electoral counts showing McCain over Obama (270 to 268). source

Also Gallup is showing that the Dems have lost much of their advantage in Congressional races.

Clearly the democrat juggernaut has petered out...kind of amusing that the premature coronation of Hillary was upturned, and now appears that Obama's coronation may also be premature.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 04:11 pm
@slkshock7,
Over on the FINAL COUNTDOWN FOR USA ELECTION 2008 thread I just posted a Financial Times piece about how Democrats running for election in Congress are shaken up by McCain's surge in the polls and are beginning to see Obama as a liability. Some are planning to distance themselves from Obama and not compaign against McCain.

However tenuous and/or temporary this turn of events may be, you gotta love it if you've decided to back McCain. Smile
okie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 09:47 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre, when you really look at what has happened, the Obama campaign has been sputtering for quite some time, before Hillary finally quit, because Hillary won several of the last primaries, so Obama sort of stumbled across the finish line into the DNC convention. Then all the hype with the stadium more or less flopped, and the bump was not great, and whatever there was quickly disappeared with the RNC the next week. So I continue to think, and hope that the Obama campaign may continue to slide. I have always thought that once the previously uninterested voters became engaged into what has gone on, the old negatives, such as the Wright stuff, are still out there. And the Obama campaign is all emotion, no substance, and emotion dies off, and he still has nothing to run on, except change, but that word is pretty much old hat and worn out now. And McCain and Palin have even stolen that issue.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 09:48 pm
What the hell are they doing?!

Ok, I am glad to see the poll numbers changing (though I still affirm they are meaningless) but I am severly disappointed in what happening with the f'ing lies. I mean do they really think they will get away with them? Every statement they make has 1,000 monkeys reviewing them fact checking them. EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT! Do they really think they can get stupid, simple lies through the litany of fact checkers? Why? It makes no sense and does not help their campaign in the least bit and frankly I am sick of seeing smug liberals gloat about them.

So, here's hoping they stop it.
nimh
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 09:52 pm
@McGentrix,
Hear, hear
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:33 pm
@McGentrix,
May I ask why you are supporting a liar? Not just a liar, but a dumb liar?

Even if he espouses to believe in the same things you do, why would believe him?

I'd like to add that it's refreshing to see someone honestly critical of a politician they support, rather than twisting the truth into cute little pretzel shapes....
McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2008 10:56 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

May I ask why you are supporting a liar? Not just a liar, but a dumb liar?

Even if he espouses to believe in the same things you do, why would believe him?

I'd like to add that it's refreshing to see someone honestly critical of a politician they support, rather than twisting the truth into cute little pretzel shapes....


Obama is hardly an honest politician, so don't go getting on some high horse. McCain's principles are still far more aligned to my own then Obama's will ever be. That's why I support him. That's why I want him to win and stop the bullshit.

McCain has a history to backup his claims and actions speak louder then words. Even when the words hurt his own campaign.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 12:50 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
don't go getting on some high horse

Complimenting you for objectivity and insight is getting on a high horse?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 01:37 pm
@McGentrix,
I know you might not want to hear it from the likes of me and nimh, McGentrix, but I agree that was well-said.


Poignant post from Andrew Sullivan, who's been a McCain supporter for a long time.

"Scales. Eyes. McCain."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/scales-eyes-mcc.html

(He's long been anti-Clinton and at some point during the Dem primary he had a rather gleeful post entitled "Scales. Eyes. Clintons" that pointed to long-time Clinton supporters who were dismayed at how Hillary was running her campaign. Now it's his turn.)
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 04:18 pm
McCain's Plan For Health Care Reform: Let's Make It More Like The Financial Industry (VIDEO)
Huffington Post | Nicholas Sabloff | September 19, 2008 08:31 PM

Paul Krugman of the New York Times posted an entry on his blog Friday night about an article John McCain recently published on health care reform in a magazine put out by the American Academy of Actuaries. Given what happened to the US economy last week, Krugman observed that McCain's remedy for health care now looks all the more problematic:

Here's what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:


"Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."

So McCain, who now poses as the scourge of Wall Street, was praising financial deregulation like 10 seconds ago -- and promising that if we marketize health care, it will perform as well as the financial industry!


On the campaign trail Saturday, Obama attacked McCain's enthusiasm for deregulation in a manner similar to Krugman, even referencing the article McCain wrote.

There's only one candidate who's called himself "fundamentally a deregulator" when deregulation is part of the problem. My opponent actually wrote in the current issue of a health care magazine - the current issue - quote - "Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."


So let me get this straight - he wants to run health care like they've been running Wall Street. Well, Senator, I know some folks on Main Street who aren't going to think that's a good idea.


Watch video of Obama's comments.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/19/mccains-plan-for-health-c_n_127900.html
Read more from the AP.

As MSNBC's First Read notes, Obama also went after McCain on the similar issue of privatizing social security by tying into the recent economic crisis:

Obama told the crowd McCain supported privatizing Social Security and asked them to imagine how people would feel had their retirement savings been tied up in the rocky stock market this past week. "I'll protect Social Security, while John McCain has talked about privatizing it. Now without Social Security half of elderly women would be living in poverty. Half. But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would've had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week. How do you think that would have made folks feel?"
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 04:30 pm
@blueflame1,
blueflame, Don't you find it amusing that the conservatives wants more of the same? How do they reconcile the Bush destruction of our economy - while McCain chose to vote with Bush 95% during the last congress.

Doesn't actions speak louder than words today?
blueflame1
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 04:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Crooks are always looking for an edge and deregulation has been a boon for corporate crooks since Reagan, the Savings and Loan scandal and now. Trillions for bailouts for corporate crooks and to hell with national health.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 04:45 pm
@blueflame1,
Yeah, the hell with national health while we spend billions in Iraq and the bail outs while our country goes to pot.
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TilleyWink
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 06:09 pm
@McGentrix,
McCain is just being McCain in my opinion. He is and always has been a grand stander. One must remember he managed to crash three Navy jets (including the one shot down over Vietnam) and most pilots never crashed even one.
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