Why Does Barack Obama Want To Ban All Our Guns?

At the bottom of this Snopes article, a more accurate summary of Obama's gun views may be seen.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/blackwell.asp

At the bottom of this Snopes article, a more accurate summary of Obama's gun views may be seen.

It just is.

Barack Obama actually voted in 2005 in favor of a federal ban on .30-30 deer hunting ammo.

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Barack Obama actually voted in 2005 in favor of a federal ban on .30-30 deer hunting ammo.

That silly argument again?

The law did NOT ban .30-.30 deer hunting ammo.

You can't show me where it does so.

Could you at least by honest Oralloy?

Your claim that the law in 2005 bans deer hunting ammo is dishonest.

I see.. so the ammunition used to shoot deer is more powerful than normal ammunition?

You ARE being dishonest.

.30-.30 ammunition is NOT standard hand gun ammunition.

If your claim is valid then it is also valid to claim that everyone that voted against the bill voted to kill police officers.

This is why the gun fanatics shouldnt be alowed to discuss items in public, they always lose their cool and go for the ad-homs.

You are mis quoting and missrepresenting facts through the GunCite website.

(AS if they represent an objective view of the topic).

Gun nuts believe in all superlatives and extreme positions, theres no talking sense with them so why try

parados wrote:

I see.. so the ammunition used to shoot deer is more powerful than normal ammunition?

You've already been told that that isn't the part of the legislation that would have banned .30-30 deer hunting ammo.

(C) The term "armor piercing ammunition" does not include shotgun shot required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target shooting, a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes, or any other projectile or projectile core which the Attorney General finds is intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge used in an oil and gas well perforating device.

oralloy wrote:

parados wrote:

I see.. so the ammunition used to shoot deer is more powerful than normal ammunition?

You've already been told that that isn't the part of the legislation that would have banned .30-30 deer hunting ammo.

You have never explained HOW that part is relevent to any ammo since you claim ALL ammo can fit into hand guns.

There is NOTHING in the amendment banning .30-.30 ammo.

There is only a distortion by you. A distortion that is beyond the pale since you ignore the bill it is being amended to.

Let me quote that bill that is NOT changed by the amendment.

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(C) The term "armor piercing ammunition" does not include shotgun shot required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target shooting, a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes, or any other projectile or projectile core which the Attorney General finds is intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge used in an oil and gas well perforating device.

Link to the law Oralloy horrendously distorted


The above is NOT amended by what you claimed bans .30-.30 ammo
Are you really going to argue that ammunition used to hunt deer is NOT used for sporting purposes? I would love to hear what you call deer hunting since it isn't a sport in your opinion.

Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.

It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2004_record&page=S1634&position=all

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2004_record&page=S1634&position=all

I direct my colleagues' attention to
the Web site of Hi-Vel, Incorporated, a
self-described exotic products distributor
and manufacturer in Delta,
UT. You can access its online catalog
on the Internet right now. Hi-Vel's
catalog lists an entry for armor-piercing
ammunition. On that page you will
find a listing for armor-piercing bullets
that can penetrate metal objects. The
bullets are available in packages of 10
for $9.95 each. Hi-Vel carries armorpiercing
bullets for both the .223 caliber
rifles such as the Bushmaster sniper
rifle used in the Washington area attacks
in October 2002, and the 7.62 caliber
assault weapons.