Obama Exposed As Black

I don't know how many black Americans you know in Amsterdam or Budapest or wherever the hell you reside, but I bet I know more, and the ones I know would not bring their children to Trinity Baptist Church.

First off, I seriously doubt the accuracy of any poll that asks African-Americans to diss one of their own. As an oppressed minority, which they have every reason to believe they are, it would be unconscionable to tell The Man (in any shape or form) that they have any negative feelings towards a brother or sister. Thus such polls are entirely unreliable.

Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the notion that African-Americans have some cultural right to denigrate Whites and America is not only absurd but counter-productive.

< L dénigrātus (ptp. of dénigrāre to blacken),

I like the original King James.... more scathing somehow....


For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

Finally, I don't know how many black Americans you know in Amsterdam or Budapest or wherever the hell you reside

First off, I seriously doubt the accuracy of any poll that asks African-Americans to diss one of their own. [..] it would be unconscionable to tell The Man (in any shape or form) that they have any negative feelings towards a brother or sister. Thus such polls are entirely unreliable.

First off, I seriously doubt the accuracy of any poll that asks African-Americans to diss one of their own. [..] it would be unconscionable to tell The Man (in any shape or form) that they have any negative feelings towards a brother or sister. Thus such polls are entirely unreliable.

And no, nobody talked about the outrage of Obama's pastor having once made a lewd sexual hipshake.

This is a positively lovely video. A teacher discusses Obama's speech on race with his students at a school in the South Bronx.

The teacher (who is very gay) is adorably eager and idealistic and happy. At times his enthusiasm in embracing this, you know, chance to encourage his students' optimism is borderline awkward for a cynic like me, but boy, his students love him.

And the kids, well they're kids, and so what they say may not be the most in-depth analysis or anything, and they too are adorably (and admirably!) idealistic. But they're saying their say -- and it's about their life. And their optimism and embrace of - yes, I'm going to say it - the hope that Obama's run offers them is infectious.

And no, nobody talked about the outrage of Obama's pastor having once made a lewd sexual hipshake.

Snood, I find Shelby Steele's statement about Obama interesting, in that perhaps it sheds more light on your thread title. Steele says Obama is trying to prove he is black and has gone overboard. Hmmmm....., what dows this mean? To be black, is the definition more than what Martin Luther King said, the content of our character? Is there some kind of color of the skin identity that you must now wear in your attitude, as if you need to prove your racial identity bordering on superiority or something? Is this what black liberation theology is all about? I find all of this juvenile and more than ridiculous to tell you the truth, snood.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/03/26/the_audacity_of_rhetoric

some quotes:

"Barack Obama's own account of his life shows that he consciously sought out people on the far left fringe. In college, "I chose my friends carefully," he said in his first book, "Dreams From My Father."

These friends included "Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk rock performance poets" -- in Obama's own words -- as well as the "more politically active black students." He later visited a former member of the terrorist Weatherman underground, who endorsed him when he ran for state senator."

"In Shelby Steele's brilliantly insightful book about Barack Obama -- "A Bound Man" -- it is painfully clear that Obama was one of those people seeking a racial identity that he had never really experienced in growing up in a white world. He was trying to become a convert to blackness, as it were -- and, like many converts, he went overboard.

Nor has Obama changed in recent years. His voting record in the U.S. Senate is the furthest left of any Senator. There is a remarkable consistency in what Barack Obama has done over the years, despite inconsistencies in what he says.

The irony is that Obama's sudden rise politically to the level of being the leading contender for his party's presidential nomination has required him to project an entirely different persona, that of a post-racial leader who can heal divisiveness and bring us all together.

The ease with which he has accomplished this chameleon-like change, and entranced both white and black Democrats, is a tribute to the man's talent and a warning about his reliability."

it is very obvious that his blackness in itself is a factor that is included in a lot of people's reasoning about Obama - whether they admit it or not.

snood wrote:

it is very obvious that his blackness in itself is a factor that is included in a lot of people's reasoning about Obama - whether they admit it or not.

Is it REALLY very obvious Snood?

Basically you're saying that "a lot" of people are racist, whether or not they admit it, right?

Okie - sit down, I have to tell you something...

THE LAUNCH THREAD WAS MEANT TO BE IRONIC . Since Obama is obviously someone who identifies and is recognizable to any casual observer as an African american, to say it was "discovered", or found after "investigation" is just playing, see?

Also (and this is a little more subtle, so put on your thinking cap), it is very obvious that his blackness in itself is a factor that is included in a lot of people's reasoning about Obama - whether they admit it or not. So the thread is also meant as a little needle in the sides of those people who obviously see his race, but do a lot of acrobatic denying that they notice.