Europe's Anti-American Obsession

Oh my ass . . . what defines "advanced?"

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ah, they are the countries in which the people are better educated, more prosperous, better informed, etc.

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So which countries in Europe do you contend have populations which are better educated than other European countries, and what is your criterion? How do you determine how well-informed the population is, as a whole? How do you define prosperity?

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Finn dAbuzz wrote:

How is this survey result meaningful?

If everything one hears or reads about the US is filtered by a government that has political reasons to cast the US in a bad light, it's pretty difficult to imagine how one might form a favorable opinion about the US.

Actually, I found that point interesting, too.

So I looked up the Worldwide Press Freedom Index 2007 and put the numbers right next to the favourability ratings.

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So, at a glance:

Of the 19 countries where more people see the influence of the United States as negative rather than positive,

- 12 have a PFI of 84 or less (upper half of the Press Freedom Index scala, more press freedom) and
- 7 have a PFI of 85 or more (lower half of the Press Freedom Index scala, less press freedom)

Of the 13 countries where more than 50 % of those polled say that the influence of the United States is negative,

- 7 have a PFI of 84 or less (more press freedom) and
- 6 have a PFI of 85 or more (less press freedom)

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On the other hand, of the 8 countries* where more people see the influence of the United States as positive rather than negative,

- 6 have a PFI of 84 or less (more press freedom) and
- 2 have a PFI of 85 or more (less press freedom)

Of the 6 countries* where more than 50 % of those polled say that the influence of the United States is positive,

- 4 have a PFI of 84 or less (more press freedom) and
- 2 have a PFI of 85 or more (less press freedom)

* 'Central America' not included

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Extraneous comment, old europe, but I love the signature line.

Quote:

I must say, I'm a little envious. If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed.

President George W Bush

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I would say that Germany is more advanced than Portugal and Italy.

You may now proceed to nitpick.

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Conscience is a word which is unfamiliar with the majoriry of the humanbeing.
UNFORTUNATELY.

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OFF topic: America's freedom index number sucks. Not that I know what goes into the number, but certainly feel that we have become a much less free nation over my lifetime, this is one of the worst failings of the baby boomer generation. An yet Americans feel free to give Europeans lectures on how to organize society.......interesting.

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Advocate
I beg to submit this.
It is not a question of Portugal or Italy.
Do we need the only soup sipping torture power?

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old europe wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Advocate wrote:
A new BBC World Service poll finds that the U.S. image abroad "has begun to improve after worsening for years, but the United States is still viewed more negatively than the European Union, Brazil, China, India and Russia." According to the new survey, 35 percent of the world believes the United States has a positive influence, but 47 percent still believe its influence is negative.

How is this survey result meaningful?

If everything one hears or reads about the US is filtered by a government that has political reasons to cast the US in a bad light, it's pretty difficult to imagine how one might form a favorable opinion about the US.

Certainly this is not the case for citizens of the European Union, Canada, Australia, Japan and other nation that have a free press, but the opinions of people about any aspect of the world outside what they directly experience are highly immaterial if their owners live in a nation where the government has strict control over the press.

Does the BBC survey break down it's results by country or even region?

Yup.

Full survey here (PDF file).

Thanks. Tough to read on a blackberry, so I'll have to suspend further comment until I can view it on my laptop.

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Advocate wrote:

Finn, do you have information that the governments in Europe, such as in the UK, control the media. I doubt this is true. Moreover, you have to admit (but you won't) that Europeans have good reason to think ill of us.

Can you read, and if you can, do you ever bother to?

You've made a fool of yourself with your rhetorical premature ejaculation.

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No verbal vomitations please.
V R here to learn

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Ramafuchs wrote:

No verbal vomitations please.
V R here to learn

In your case, I doubt that....

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Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Thanks. Tough to read on a blackberry, so I'll have to suspend further comment until I can view it on my laptop.

You're welcome!

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Old Europe
"In your case, I doubt that.."
is this not a personal observation?
If that be the case tthen I feel extremely sorry.
I am not here to find trouble or make any trouble..

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old europe wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Thanks. Tough to read on a blackberry, so I'll have to suspend further comment until I can view it on my laptop.

You're welcome!

Sorry but it doesn't satisfactorily break down the component parts

I would like to see New Europe v Old Europe and three countries in a reliable pro-America continent like Africa just doesn't impart impartiality.

Sad to say this survey reveals itself to be bogus.

A fairly large part of the world doesn't seem to have been queried.

In the final analysis I would love to see that the majority of the world's population appreciated American for the stalwart defender of freedom it is, but lazy fat cats tend to take active virtues for granted. (See Germany and Spain)

I suspect that wherever a nation has recently emerged from tyranny to rise to democracy the Pro-America points are very high.

If I am right, wouldn't that tell you something very important?

Now to a specifically unrelated but totally heart felt commentary:

If you are not an American and you want to engage in baiting the bear, good for you. Stupid or otherwise, you are at least having fun.

If you are an American and you insist on these endless deluges of criticism for your native land, what the f*ck is up?

Do you think it is cool to be a contrarian?

Do you think that somehow you evidence intelligence by pursuing an entirely one-side rant against the USA?

Do you really despise your native land?

My bet is that 99% of related posters fall within scenario # 1 and 2.

Sure this means that some of you actually despise your native land.

Sorry, but worry that bone alone in the darkness, because who the f*ck cares what you think, unless you have a stash of explosives and a homicidal mind.

Here's what it comes down to (rage and rant as your ideological perspectives require):

America is THE Big Dog

Countries fall in line or fall outside the line.

The countries that fall outside are bad ass places

The countries that have recently achieved their freedom love the heck out of us.

The countries that we saved from WWI and WWII are, institutionally grateful, but the separated seething hosts of today get to play with silly ideological checklists.

It is amazing to me that Liberals are able to formulate opinions that are entirely devoid of reality. But that's "Obama Change," ain't it?

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Finn dAbuzz wrote:

America is THE Big Dog

Great choice. America is a not a rational being that uses science and philosophy to address the hard issues of the world like a human... No my friend, we are a big dog... sorry, THE big dog who druels and shits where he pleases, and isn't affraid to show it's teeth. Great choice.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Countries fall in line or fall outside the line.

A line has no area or volume, how can something be inside it? Your analogies suck.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The countries that fall outside are bad ass places

What?

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The countries that have recently achieved their freedom love the heck out of us.

And the ones which we have economically exploited?

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The countries that we saved from WWI and WWII are, institutionally grateful, but the separated seething hosts of today get to play with silly ideological checklists.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

It is amazing to me that Liberals are able to formulate opinions that are entirely devoid of reality. But that's "Obama Change," ain't it?

Yeah let's jump head first into the-bad-ass-big-dog-republican reality void.

T
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Finn, you come across like a good dittohead. I think the right loves mindless chauvinists.

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Advocate wrote:

Finn, you come across like a good dittohead. I think the right loves mindless chauvinists.

Something reminiscent of your reflexive support of whatever Israel does.

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