Michelle Obama has hated America for over 40 years?

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But she is probably real proud of her church pastor and Louis Farrakhan, a man that her church said "epitomized greatness."

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Apparently Oprah Winfery is also smitten by this pastor of "greatness".

I hear the Obamas hate the USA so much they plan to rip the bible out of the Statue of Liberty's hand and melt it down to make union membership pins and complementary pentagram charms for all american kindergardeners.

I hear they plan to stop burning oil and start burning bibles for energy.

Rex, what on earth is your malfunction.

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Every so often, I get to read something that someone writes (sometimes it happens right here on A2K) that expresses my own thoughts better than I could have myself. This is from a blog by Dawn Turner Trice of the Chicago Tribune:



"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country." -- Michelle Obama

Every time Sen. Barack Obama wins a Democratic presidential primary or a caucus, my home telephone rings off the hook. As soon as the polls close and the numbers start to flow in, it's as though I'm part of a phone tree with friends and family members alerting me of some tsunami-like event.

All of the calling reminds me of what my mother used to tell me about the 1950s and 1960s when African-Americans would be on television and her neighbors would call around yelling: "Turn on the television, colored people on TV!"

But this isn't exactly about "colored" people being on television. It's about a man of color running for the highest office in the land. Last week, Obama won his 10th contest in a row. He's now prevailed in 23 states and the District of Columbia to Sen. Hillary Clinton's 13. It's been an amazing run, and it ain't over.

My callers ask: Is this real? Did you ever think we'd see this within our lifetime? Can he really go all the way? Oh, the shock and awe.

At a time when so much is competing for our attention, few things in recent memory have engaged us in the way this campaign has. And when I say "us," I'm not just referring to African-Americans. It's becoming clearer that lots of different people are excited about Obama, enough to vote for him.

But I believe the shock and awe from African-Americans is a bit different and dovetails with what the candidate's wife, Michelle Obama, said last week on the eve of the Wisconsin primary. She said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

It was that first sentence that riled quite a few people, including Cindy McCain, wife of Republican presidential contender John McCain, who snipped: "I have, and always will be, proud of my country."

To that I thought: Really? Always?

After a bit of a dust-up, Michelle Obama explained what she meant: "For the first time in my lifetime, I'm seeing people rolling up their sleeves in a way that I haven't seen and really trying to figure this out -- and that's the source of pride that I was talking about," she told a Providence, R.I., television station.

For a lot of us black folk, no explanation was necessary.

I am 42 years old. The majority of the people burning up my phone line are in their mid-30s to late 40s. We see America differently. We are the post-Civil Rights Movement generation that was to work hard to reap the rewards of the protesters' hard work. Many of us are proud and grateful to have had opportunities that eluded many in our parents' generation.

That includes deep relationships with white people -- colleagues, friends, spouses. Yet when we look at America in the aggregate -- when we look beyond those individual relationships -- we remain a bit tentative where race is concerned.

Indeed, much has changed, and that inspires pride and hope among blacks. But Hurricane Katrina was just one reminder that much more is required to fix the racial disparities that exist in income and education levels, the criminal justice system, health care outcomes, etc.

Growing up, we were told stories about more than a few not-so-prideful moments in American history.

They are so ubiquitous they are recalled with the aid of just a few words: The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment; Emmett Till; the Birmingham Church Bombing case; all that jazz about separate but equal.

For those of us who grew up in Chicago (including Michelle Obama, who is 44), we also remember our parents telling us about housing covenants restricting where blacks could live; the squalor of the tenement housing. We recall firsthand the housing projects that replaced the tenements but met a similar fate as they struggled to get even the barest of city services.

When you add to that Chicago's history of ugly race-entrenched politics, you'd have to be audacious to be hopeful about politics on any level.

Last fall, Michelle Obama told Iowans that her husband had to win there or the campaign was just a dream. She knew that it was terrific that he was polling well. Terrific that the campaign coffers were overflowing. Terrific also that he was this exotic candidate, a relatively young guy with a Harvard law degree and a disarming racial pedigree.

Still, he had to win out of the gate in this overwhelmingly white state because it would set a tone for people -- blacks, whites and others -- who were fighting skepticism about choosing a man of color for president.

Since then, Americans from every walk of life have come out and voted in droves for him. What they're saying is huge.

It hints that maybe more people (more than I ever expected) in this country can indeed transcend all that other bad racial stuff and elect a black man to the presidency.

Until recently, few of my contemporaries thought this was possible within our lifetime. We hoped it would be possible during the lifetime of our children.

This is from where the shock and awe and, yes, great pride derives. We are mindful that anything can happen in race. Still, this forever will be a unique moment in our collective history.

You underestimate M Obama. This was not about race, she does not think that small. Black folk have to understand that Obama plays to a wide audience because he is not constrained by race. He is a leader who happens to be black, he is not a black man who happens to be a leader. Blacks should dial down the black pride and wake up to the fact that America is sick of being hobbled by race problems. It is time to move on. Obama is not stuck on his blackness, that is all whites need to know to welcome him with open arms.

It's not a bible in the SoL's hands TKO. It's just a tablet.

I had to make sure that gross inaccuracy was corrected before some crazy theocrat took that to their church meeting today as another example of why America as a "Christian Nation".

... or a leftist cited it as yet another reason to hate America.

i've always hated america, that's why I live in New Mexico.

And that's why I only go there this year.

Man, wtf are you reading? Are you reading what gets writte on this thread, or just what you imagine is being said?

Fair enough.

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Should we now begin quoting the anti-semite pastors of the christian right? Robertson, Falwell, Hagee... etc. That would be kind of fun.

What do you say, okie?

We can also then go on to quote John McCain's honorifics for these fine upstanding christian jew-haters.

Shall we?

Isn't the whole thread based on what they thought Michelle Obama said?

Hawkeye falsely synthesized the totality of what Michelle was saying into "this is about black pride". That characterization is just plain wrong, and either an attempt to marginalize and minimize, or a shameful display of willful ignorance. Either way "wtf are you reading?" is a legitimate question for him.

Oh, definitely so.

I just thought it to be a question worth expanding to the entire thread.

Dawn Turner Trice made M Obama's comment all about race, when I don't think it had much of anything to do with race. Obama connects because he is not all about race, those who get all proud that a back man can get elected dig deeper into race identity when they need to let it go. Be proud that America is moving beyond race, not that a black can do so well. white's have said by voting for Obama that we are ready to move past race, blacks need to be willing to do the same. expressing black pride about Obama's success is doing the opposite.

We can be proud and progressive at the same time. There's nothing for you to feel threatened about.

I know it's a tablet. It was a joke. Rex made a thread about 6 months ago about the statue of liberty holding a bible. Rex fought tooth and nail to argu it was a bible despite numerous photos etc.

It was hilarious.

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I am not threatened, I keep hoping that blacks will be at some point ready to move on. Talk of "shock and awe" that Obama can get votes even though he is black is not a good sign. Black pride is not either. Somebody (I can't remember who) said that Obama had made a deal, he won't keep bringing up race so long as he does not feel that he is being treated poorly because of his race. This author said that many in the black community called that deal "uncle tom" or an "apologist for his race". I hope that this is wrong, because if blacks take this view that Obama is not acting black enough then it proves that blacks are not ready to move beyond race. Blacks should follow obama's example.

I could ask you the same thing? Do you think joking about something like that is really "funny"? Do you really want to trade Jesus for Mohammed?

You can laugh while Obama is sworn in on the Koran! You don't seem to be laughing now are you Deist? You can tell the world you were laughing while it all happened too! I don't think Oprah will be laughing then neither when she stripped of her cash and forced to wear a burka.