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The UN, US and Iraq IV

 
 
hobitbob
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 08:15 pm
Of course I can, I'm an elitist snob, remember? Wink
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 08:28 pm
I've read and re-read this and just don't see any reason for Bush to do back flips annd hand springs .... am I missing something?

United Nations S/RES/1511 (2003)
Security Council Distr.: General
16 October 2003
03-56391 (E)
*0356391*
Resolution 1511 (2003)
Adopted by the Security Council at its 4844th meeting, on
16 October 2003
The Security Council,
Reaffirming its previous resolutions on Iraq, including resolution 1483 (2003)
of 22 May 2003 and 1500 (2003) of 14 August 2003, and on threats to peace and security caused by terrorist acts, including resolution 1373 (2001) of 28 September 2001, and other relevant essolutions,
Underscoring that the sovereignty of Iraq resides in the State of Iraq,
reaffirming the right of the Iraqi people freely to determine their own political future and control their own natural resources, reiterating its resolve that the day when Iraqis govern themselves must come quickly, and recognizing the importance of international support, particularly that of countries in the region, Iraq's neighbours, and regional organizations, in taking forward this process expeditiously, Recognizing that international support for restoration of conditions of stability and securit y is essential to the well-being of the people of Iraq as well as to the ability of all concerned to carry out their work on behalf of the people of Iraq, and welcoming Member State contributions in this regard under resolution 1483 (2003), Welcoming the decision of the Governing Council of Iraq to form a preparatory constitutional committee to prepare for a constitutional conference that will draft a constitution to embody the aspirations of the Iraqi people, and urging it to complete this process quickly, Affirming that the terrorist bombings of the Embassy of Jordan on 7 August 2003, of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad on 19 August 2003, of the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf on 29 August 2003, and of the Embassy of Turkey on 14 October 2003, and the murder of a Spanish diplomat on 9 October 2003 are attacks on the people of Iraq, the United Nations, and the international community, and deploring the assassination of Dr. Akila al-Hashimi, who died on 25 September 2003, as an attack directed against the future of Iraq, In that context, recalling and reaffirming the statement of its President of 20 August 2003 (S/PRST/2003/13) and resolution 1502 (2003) of 26 August 2003, Determining that the situation in Iraq, although improved, continues to constitute a threat to international peace and security, 2 S/RES/1511 (2003) Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,

1. Reaffirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq, and
underscores, in that context, the temporary nature of the exercise by the Coalition Provisional Authority (Authority) of the specific responsibilities, authorities, and obligations under applicable international law recognized and set forth in resolution 1483 (2003), which will cease when an internationally recognized, representative government established by the people of Iraq is sworn in and assumes the responsibilities of the Authority, inter alia through steps envisaged in paragraphs 4 through 7 and 10 below;

2. welcomes the positive response of the international community, in fora
such as the Arab League, the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the United Nations General Assembly, and the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, to the establishment of the broadly representative Governing Council as an important step towards an internationally recognized, representative government;

3. Supports the Governing Council's efforts to mobilize the people of Iraq,
including by the appointment of a cabinet of ministers and a preparatory
constitutional committee to lead a process in which the Iraqi people will
progressively take control of their own affairs;

4. Determines that the Governing Council and its ministers are the principal bodies of the Iraqi interim administration, which, without prejudice to its further evolution, embodies the sovereignty of the State of Iraq during the transitional period until an internationally recognized, representative government is established and assumes the responsibilities of the Authority;


5. Affirms that the administration of Iraq will be progressively undertaken
by the evolving structures of the Iraqi interim administration;

6. Calls upon the Authority, in this context, to return governing
responsibilities and authorities to the people of Iraq as soon as practicable and requests the Authority, in cooperation as appropriate with the Governing Council and the Secretary-General, to report to the Council on the progress being made;

7. Invites the Governing Council to provide to the Security Council, for its
review, no later than 15 December 2003, in cooperation with the Authority and, as circumstances permit, the Special Representative of the Secretary- eneral, a timetable and a programme for the drafting of a new constitution for Iraq and for the holding of democratic elections under that constitution;

8. Resolves that the United Nations, acting through the Secretary-General,
his Special Representative, and the United Nations Assistance Mission in Iraq, should strengthen its vital role in Iraq, including by providing humanitarian relief, promoting the economic reconstruction of and conditions for sustainable development in Iraq, and advancing efforts to restore and establish national andlocal institutions for representative government;

9. Requests that, as circumstances permit, the Secretary-General pursue the course of action outlined in paragraphs 98 and 99 of the report of the Secretary- General of 17 July 2003 (S/2003/715);3 S/RES/1511 (2003)

10. Takes note of the intention of the Governing Council to hold a
constitutional conference and, recognizing that the convening of the conference will be a milestone in the movement to the full exercise of sovereignty, calls for its preparation through national dialogue and consensus-building as soon as practicable
and requests the Special Representative of the Secretary-General, at the time of the convening of the conference or, as circumstances permit, to lend the unique expertise of the United Nations to the Iraqi people in this process of political transition, including the establishment of electoral processes;

11. Requests the Secretary-General to ensure that the resources of the United Nations and associated organizations are available, if requested by the Iraqi Governing Council and, as circumstances permit, to assist in furtherance of the programme provided by the Governing Council in paragraph 7 above, and encourages other organizations with expertise in this area to support the Iraqi Governing Council, if requested;

12. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on his
responsibilities under this resolution and the development and implementation of a timetable and programme under paragraph 7 above;

13. Determines that the provision of security and stability is essential to the successful completion of the political process as outlined in paragraph 7 above and to the ability of the United Nations to contribute effectively to that process and the implementation of resolution 1483 (2003), and authorizes a multinational force under unified command to take all necessary measures to contribute to the maintenance of security and stability in Iraq, including for the purpose of ensuring necessary conditions for the implementation of the timetable and programme as well as to contribute to the security of the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq, the Governing Council of Iraq and other institutions of the Iraqi interim administration, and key humanitarian and economic infrastructure;

14. Urges Member States to contribute assistance under this United Nations
mandate, including military forces, to the multinational force referred to in
paragraph 13 above;

15. Decides that the Council shall review the requirements and mission of the multinational force referred to in paragraph 13 above not later than one year from the date of this resolution, and that in any case the mandate of the force shall expireupon the completion of the political process as described in paragraphs 4 through 7 and 10 above, and expresses readiness to consider on that occasion any future need for the continuation of the multinational force, taking into account the views of an internationally recognized, representative government of Iraq;

16. Emphasizes the importance of establishing effective Iraqi police and
security forces in maintaining law, order, and security and combating terrorism consistent with paragraph 4 of resolution 1483 (2003), and calls upon Member States and international and regional organizations to contribute to the training and equipping of Iraqi police and security forces;

17. Expresses deep sympathy and condolences for the personal losses
suffered by the Iraqi people and by the United Nations and the families of those United Nations personnel and other innocent victims who were killed or injured in these tragic attacks; S/RES/1511 (2003)

18. Unequivocally condemns the terrorist bombings of the Embassy of Jordan on 7 August 2003, of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad on 19 August 2003, and of the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf on 29 August 2003, and of the Embassy of Turkey on 14 October 2003, the murder of a Spanish diplomat on 9 October 2003, and the assassination of Dr. Akila al-Hashimi, who died on 25 September 2003, and emphasizes that those responsible must be brought to justice;

19. Calls upon Member States to prevent the transit of terrorists to Iraq, arms for terrorists, and financing that would support terrorists, and emphasizes the importance of strengthening the cooperation of the countries of the region, particularly neighbours of Iraq, in this regard;

20. Appeals to Member States and the international financial institutions to
strengthen their efforts to assist the people of Iraq in the reconstruction and development of their economy, and urges those institutions to take immediate steps to provide their full range of loans and other financial assistance to Iraq, working with the Governing Council and appropriate Iraqi ministries;

21. Urges Member States and international and regional organizations to
support the Iraq reconstruction effort initiated at the 24 June 2003 United Nations Technical Consultations, including through substantial pledges at the 23-24 October 2003 International Donors Conference in Madrid;

22. Calls upon Member States and concerned organizations to help meet the needs of the Iraqi people by providing resources necessary for the rehabilitation and reconstruction of Iraq's economic infrastructure;

23. Emphasizes that the International Advisory and Monitoring Board
(IAMB) referred to in paragraph 12 of resolution 1483 (2003) should be established as a priority, and reiterates that the Development Fund for Iraq shall be used in a transparent manner as set out in paragraph 14 of resolution 1483 (2003);

24. Reminds all Member States of their obligations under paragraphs 19 an
23 of resolution 1483 (2003) in particular the obligation to immediately cause the transfer of funds, other financial assets and economic resources to the Developmen tFund for Iraq for the benefit of the Iraqi people;

25. Requests that the United States, on behalf of the multinational force as
outlined in paragraph 13 above, report to the Security Council on the efforts and progress of this force as appropriate and not less than every six months;

26. Decides to remain seized of the matter.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 08:34 pm
Gels, In all things politics, GWBush won, even though he didn't win anything. The "idea" is what counts on this one, not all that other important stuff..
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 09:20 pm
Bushipoo was seeking shelter from the storm ... there is no safe harbor here.

Another thing that puzzels my feeble mind.

20 billion as a loan with oil as collateral.

or

20 billion to be repaid with oil profits.

Could someone point out the difference
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 09:53 pm
tart

I'm missing your reference to Pakistan. What are you thinking?
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Kara
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 10:01 pm
Ge, anyone who reads the resolution knows that all of the problems are just being papered over temporarily. But it proves to me that the UN is anything but irrelevant, and it shows that some other countries are willing to work very hard to get the global act together and do not want to be seen as standing in the way of Iraqi reconstruction, which anyone must be in favor of if they have all of their marbles. In fact, one might almost catch a whiff of nobility or statesmanship floating around in the air, hovering over Europe. Powell and Negroponte did a remarkable job, but they were lucky that "old Europe" can still take the long view. And they are keeping their pride by putting up a hand to vote affirmation and keeping the other one firmly in the money pocket.
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Kara
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 10:03 pm
Tartarin, are you referring to Pakistan's nuclear ambitions?
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 11:10 pm
Sick and tired of war? Take a break ...
Turn on your speakers .... broadband helpfull

Click me

Select becoming human documentory ...
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2003 11:53 pm
Gelisgesti wrote:
Sick and tired of war?

Remember, according to Neo-Con doctrine, war is the natural state of humanity. Sad
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SunrayMinor
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2003 03:01 am
quote="Sofia"]Many people are under the impression that cleaning out Iraq is a huge step toward stablization of the ME, which should drastically reduce terrorism in the region, and the world.[/quote[/b]

At one time people thought the earth was flat too..
Sadaams the answer .. what was the question?
What is how can we get control of 11%of the worlds crude oil and grab a foothold in the middle east for $400 Alex..
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2003 03:05 am
Hi Sunray, welcome to A2K. Thought I'd give you a tip for fixing up the quotation in your post.

You need to move the [ B] out from the middle of the [ quote= code and place it right before the word Many. It should all work nicely after that. Smile
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2003 05:26 am
hobitbob wrote:
Gelisgesti wrote:
Sick and tired of war?

Remember, according to Neo-Con doctrine, war is the natural state of humanity. Sad


Yes but ...... under the wtf happened column hard coded into the system is:
A body once at rest tends to remain at rest unless acted on etc etc etc


WTF happened? Confused
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2003 05:31 pm
Sofia wrote:
Many people are under the impression that cleaning out Iraq is a huge step toward stablization of the ME, which should drastically reduce terrorism in the region, and the world.


But most base(d) that impression on the (apparently false) premise that Iraq was a place where global terrorism was hiding out in, in the first place.

Wouldn't it make more sense focusing on cleaning out countries that actually did foster global Muslim terrorism? Afghanistan was a fair case in point, but Iraq ...

Or is the argument more something like - to start stabilising the ME / cleaning out terrorism there, we need to have a basis to work and spread out from (like some exemplary "western" ME state we should wrest and then use as proxy to influence the region with/from) - and Iraq was the most practical target, what with WMD allegations, a dictator thats hated anyway, an already weakened regime and plenty of natural resources to fund the project with?

I mean I can actually recognize the argument for such a project - but despite its professed idealism, it's of course a deeply cynical (not to say imperialistic) argument, in a the-ends-justifies-all-means kinda way.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2003 05:34 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
Hi Sunray, welcome to A2K. Thought I'd give you a tip for fixing up the quotation in your post.

You need to move the [ B] out from the middle of the [ quote= code and place it right before the word Many. It should all work nicely after that. Smile


Eh ... and add one of those square brackets before quote] and after [quote, I think.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2003 01:36 am
McTag wrote:
I think some right-wing people placed on these threads are not independent of, and may be in the pay of, government bodies.


An article in the October 27, edition of Newsweek describes Bush's New War as
"Fed up with the gloom-and-doom coverage of the conflict, the White House is taking aim at the press".
Quote:
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2003 02:39 am
from the Newsweek article posted above,
Quote:
American officials accuse reporters of indulging in a morbid obsession with death and destruction, and ignoring how Iraq has improved since Saddam Hussein was toppled.


Doesn't the American gov't. have the Fox News Network to propigate its agenda exclusively? I guess it figures it's the only worthwhile agenda; all others should be quelled.

also,
Quote:
Now the hospitals have been declared off-limits and morgue officials turn away reporters who aren't accompanied by a Coalition escort.


Saddam also liked assigning escorts for the press reporters.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2003 04:58 am
How scripted is the Whitehouse?

"During World War II relations between Hitler and Goebbels became more intimate, especially as the war situation deteriorated and the Minister of Propaganda encouraged the German people to ever greater efforts. After the Allies insisted on unconditional surrender, Goebbels turned this to advantage, convincing his audience that there was no choice except victory or destruction. In a famous speech on February 18, 1943 in the Berlin Sportpalast, Goebbels created an atmosphere of wild emotion, winning the agreement of his listeners to mobilization for total war. Playing adroitly on German fears of the "Asiatic hordes," using his all-pervasive control of press, film and radio to maintain morale, inventing mythical "secret weapons" and impregnable fortresses in the mountains where the last stand would be made, Goebbels never lost his nerve or his fighting spirit."

Who is the Bush 'minister of propaganda?'
Is this still America?

Click here
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2003 05:15 am
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Standing on the Dead
By Marc Ash
t r u t h o u t | Essay

Wednesday 22 January 2003

"What luck for the rulers that men do not think."
--Adolf Hitler

In October of 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, the U.S. government halted operations at New York's Union Banking Corporation. A bank official was charged with "Running Nazi front groups in the United States."

His name: Prescott Bush.

Prescott Bush, father of future U.S President George Herbert Walker Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush, had been hard at work on behalf of his Nazi partners. In flagrant violation of U.S. law, Prescott Bush had worked tirelessly to launder money, procure raw materials, arrange transportation and provide guidance for the Nazi war effort and the German army he had helped to build.

In April of 2002, George W. Bush -- standing literally on the bones of the men who fell at Normandy beachhead in mortal combat with that very same Nazi army -- delivered his Memorial Day address. He said, in part, "This is a day our country has set apart to remember what was gained in our wars, and all that was lost."

Let us remember.

As the German army came crashing into Poland, spreading death and destruction in its path, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.

As German tanks rolled through the Ardennes Forest and into Paris, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.

As Allied forces fighting to defend France were forced literally into the sea at Dunkirk by the German Army, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.

As German war planes rained bombs down on London, killing 50 thousand English men, women and children, Prescott Bush continued aiding the Nazis.

As millions died at the hands of the most ruthless and violent organization the world has ever known, Prescott Bush continued aiding them.

And of course, as Hitler and the Nazis planned and carried out the extermination of Europe's Jews, Prescott Bush was an eager and active partner.

When did Bush stop? When we made him stop.

In this case, George W. Bush won't have to worry about the US Government shutting him down. That's been taken care of -- he is the US Government.

As debate rages back and forth across the Atlantic over the morality and acceptability of this assault against Iraq, it is interesting to note the German position.

It was Germany who bought most completely into the war lie during the past century. It was the German people who, with their faith in country and leadership, and even their loyalty to the Fatherland, made possible the greatest nightmare the world has ever known. It is those same German people who stand today before Europe and the world in unflinching opposition to this latest world conquering force.

How well do the German people know George W. Bush? Better than they want to.

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Sources:

Heir to the Holocaust : http://www.clamormagazine.org/features/issue14.3_feature.3.html

The Bush Nazi Connection : http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm

Gold Fillings, Auschwitz & George Bush : http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm

Or just do a search at www.google.com under " Prescott Bush Nazi UBC 1942" and take your pick of the documents that come up. (Highly recommended.)

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You can send comments to t r u t h o u t Editor Marc Ash at: [email protected]

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Kara
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2003 08:09 am
nimh said, in part:

Quote:
...and Iraq was the most practical target, what with WMD allegations, a dictator thats hated anyway, an already weakened regime and plenty of natural resources to fund the project with?


I would have added this: ...what with WMD allegations, and the probable knowledge of the administration that there were none to threaten us...
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2003 10:40 am
nimh wrote:
Sofia wrote:
Many people are under the impression that cleaning out Iraq is a huge step toward stablization of the ME, which should drastically reduce terrorism in the region, and the world.


But most base(d) that impression on the (apparently false) premise that Iraq was a place where global terrorism was hiding out in, in the first place.
Salman Pak can be spun fifty ways from Sunday... but most realistic people see it as a terrorist training ground, replete with an aircraft for terrorist training. Abu Nidal and other notorious terrorists had a haven in Iraq. While war detractors are busy finding ways to act as though none of this happened, or refuting the dots connected--there are others who come to common sense conclusions. How the mobile units are considered fluff to many war detractors is stretching common sense to me as well. Can anyone give a logical reason for these travelling chemical weapons labs?
Wouldn't it make more sense focusing on cleaning out countries that actually did foster global Muslim terrorism? Afghanistan was a fair case in point, but Iraq ...
We didn't go into Iraq cold. Saddam provided plenty of reasons. Using Iraq as a stepping stone to democracy in Iraq , was secondary once lured there by Saddam's non-compliance with the Gulf War treaty. He was also circumventing the Oil for Food Resolution, and starving his people. He found a way to dodge all of the world community's edicts.
Or is the argument more something like - to start stabilising the ME / cleaning out terrorism there, we need to have a basis to work and spread out from (like some exemplary "western" ME state we should wrest and then use as proxy to influence the region with/from) - and Iraq was the most practical target, what with WMD allegations, a dictator thats hated anyway, an already weakened regime and plenty of natural resources to fund the project with?
Yes. But his name wasn't picked out of a hat.
I mean I can actually recognize the argument for such a project - but despite its professed idealism, it's of course a deeply cynical (not to say imperialistic) argument, in a the-ends-justifies-all-means kinda way.
It does smack of imperialism, but as I said--considering everything--action was required. IMO.
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