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Hillary Clinton for President - 2008

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 08:14 am
There are like, wow I lost count, quite a few strawmen there, but I'll give a short answer.

Watch how consistent.

I would really like to vote for:

1.) A candidate who has good ideas

who is also

2.) Skilled at conveying those ideas.

Kerry, for example, had #1 but not #2. That did him in.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 08:26 am
I thought Kerry was great relative to both counts. However, the Rep swiftboaters attacked and Kerry was too slow in responding.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 08:42 am
I think the success of the Swiftboaters had a lot to do with pre-existing problems with #2. People couldn't quite connect to Kerry, thought he was elitist and remote. I think he formed sentences fine but wasn't a communicator.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 09:48 am
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/c/1/kerry_iraq_soldiers.jpg
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:12 am
How Hillary Clinton blew a sure thing
Sadly, I agree with a lot of the opinions in this article. Many of her campaign staff failed Clinton by not recognizing and adjusting to the Obama campaign. By the time they realized what was happening, it was too late. Bill Clinton didn't help and did more harm than good. Hillary would have been a great president, much better than her husband. I still have hope, but it is fading.---BBB Crying or Very sad

How Hillary Clinton blew a sure thing
By Steven Thomma | McClatchy Newspapers
February 21, 2008

WASHINGTON ?- She had everything going for her. The most famous name in politics. A solid lead in the polls. A war chest of at least $133 million.

Yet Hillary Clinton now finds herself struggling for political survival, her once-firm grasp of the Democratic presidential nomination seemingly slipping away.

What happened?

Barack Obama, for one thing, a uniquely gifted speaker with a face that appeals deeply to the Democratic Party. He also had a better-organized campaign.

But Democrats say that Clinton, whose central theme is her readiness to be president, also made blunder after blunder. She chose an inexperienced campaign manager, crafted a message that didn't match the moment, fielded poor organizations in key states and built a budget that ran dry just when she needed money most.

"She got outmaneuvered," said Mark Mellman, a Democratic strategist who isn't aligned with any of this year's candidates. "Her campaign allowed her to be outmaneuvered on several fronts."

"To think that someone named Clinton with $130 million could end up here is amazing," another neutral Democratic strategist said. He spoke only on the condition of anonymity to permit more candor, as did many party insiders quoted here who dare not offend the still-powerful Clintons.

Clinton isn't out of it yet. Aides this week dismissed talk of mismanagement and mistakes and said that she can fight back in Ohio and Texas on March 4 and in Pennsylvania on April 22, and win the nomination at the Democratic National Convention in August.

"People have made the mistake of writing off Senator Clinton before," campaign spokesman Phil Singer said.

Yet it's undeniable that the New York senator has fallen awfully far awfully fast.

One factor is Obama, an Illinois senator.

"You've got to give credit to Barack Obama. He is a once-in-a-generation politician," Mellman said.

His soaring rhetoric and uplifting message of a more civil, less divisive politics as the key to such goals as better health care has inspired Democrats since he seized the spotlight at the party's national convention in Boston in 2004.

Also, his race strikes a chord in Democrats who hunger for the chance to nominate and elect the first African-American president, arguably a stronger ideal for some than electing the first woman.

Yet Democratic strategists and insiders think that Clinton could have bested Obama so far had she run a better campaign.

Some key points:

MESSAGE

Clinton ran most of last year on her experience, at one point surrounding herself with party icons from the past, such as former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

It was a strategy designed for wartime, presenting her as a tough, experienced leader in the mold of Margaret Thatcher, someone who could be trusted to keep the country safe.

But that made her look rooted in the past, even part of the status quo, as Obama cast himself as the voice of a new generation. Young people surged to his rallies, and helped give him his first big win, in Iowa.

"Everybody has known for a year at least that if you trade experience for change, people want change over experience 2-1. Why they put themselves on the short end of that, I don't know," said one Democrat who worked on John Kerry's 2004 campaign. "It was a bad choice."

Though she later answered Obama's rise in the polls by changing her message to say she had the experience to deliver change, this Democrat called it "too little too late."

Said a Democrat who worked on Al Gore's 2000 campaign: "A message based on experience was not going to work in that environment. It was doomed to fail."

IOWA AND THE CAUCUS STATES

Starting with Iowa, Clinton was out-hustled and out-organized in almost every state that had caucuses rather than primaries.

Her aides and surrogates criticized caucuses as unrepresentative because it's harder for voters to attend the town hall-like meetings than it is to vote in primaries. As Obama rolled up win after win, they tried to dismiss caucus results as less important than primaries.

"They seemed to give up on organization," one Democratic strategist said. "To lose every caucus but Nevada is to say we do not care about organization.

"Should he have won Idaho? Is that his demographic? No. Should he have won Maine? No. Places like Idaho and Maine were much more Clinton's demographic. But she had neither the organizational strength nor the strategy to lock down these places."

Clinton strategist Harold Ickes denied that the campaign ceded the caucus states to Obama. Instead, it chose to allocate limited resources to different places.

"Every campaign has the allocation-of-resources issue," he said. "And in the context of the resources that we had, the delegates at stake . . . we allocated our resources as we did. You know, we certainly did not cede anything, but . . . those were the factors that were at play in those decisions."

SOUTH CAROLINA

Clinton's one burst of momentum ?- after wins in New Hampshire and Nevada ?- ended in South Carolina.

"It was a terrible campaign," said a senior South Carolina Democrat who supported Clinton.

"There was never any concept of how South Carolina should be addressed in terms of identifying voters and getting them out. The skill set of people in the Clinton campaign was pretty low, and there was no central guidance or direction. They had plenty of resources; money wasn't a problem. They just didn't execute."

Worse, Bill and Hillary Clinton hit Obama heading into the South Carolina primary in terms that struck many African-Americans as racially charged.

On the day of the primary, for example, Bill Clinton appeared to dismiss Obama's victory in a state with a large black population by noting that Jesse Jackson had won there, too. That was true. But Clinton had to skip over the 20 years of white winners in South Carolina to settle on Jackson. It was as if he were saying, "a black winner here doesn't matter, because only blacks voted for him."

Well into the campaign in Virginia weeks later, elder statesmen such as Doug Wilder, the nation's first elected black governor, were still smarting over the Clinton tactics. Clinton went on to lose Virginia in a 64-35 percent landslide.

"They blew up in South Carolina," said a white Democrat who worked in the Clinton White House. "It changed everybody's perceptions of them."

POST-SUPER TUESDAY

Short of cash as the race turned toward the Super Tuesday voting Feb. 5, Clinton lent her campaign $5 million. Even as some wins Feb. 5 helped her raise $15 million, she lost ground to Obama and appeared to lack a clear strategy for how to compete after that.

She seemed to write off Virginia, for example, and didn't even comment on her loss that night, Feb. 12, by almost 30 points.

In Wisconsin, which voted Tuesday, she was outspent 4-1 and pulled out a day early to head to the next contests, in Ohio and Texas. She lost Wisconsin by 17 points.

Even looking ahead to Pennsylvania, which she considers a must-win for her comeback, Clinton aides failed to file a full slate of delegates for that April 22 primary. While they can file them later, the oversight was hardly the sign of a well-oiled machine.

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Many of Clinton's TV ads featured her talking about the issues, standard fare.

But the ads struck one Democratic consultant as a mistake, since Obama's ads also feature excerpts from his speeches. Airing the similar ads invites a comparison of the two candidates' speaking styles at the very time she's been trying to downplay her disadvantage.

"They suck," the consultant said. "The truth is he's a better speaker. He has a better speech. They don't want a side-by-side comparison, but they're making it."

MANAGEMENT

Clinton recently replaced her campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, with Maggie Williams, who served as her chief of staff when she was first lady.

Doyle got mixed reviews.

"It does seem odd to have someone at the top of the organization who has no campaign experience," one strategist said. "Bill Clinton had people who had run campaigns. Patti and Maggie were there by virtue of their personal loyalty, not their campaign experience."

But another Democrat said Doyle was singled out unfairly for blame, as often happens in Washington when a politician stumbles.

"Every decision that was made ?- whether it was spending or the message or what states to invest in ?- was a collaborative process," the other strategist said. "It's unfair to Patti to blame her. It was a ministerial position."
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William Douglas contributed to this article.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:17 am
Re: How Hillary Clinton blew a sure thing
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Sadly, I agree with a lot of the opinions in this article. Many of her campaign staff failed Clinton by not recognizing and adjusting to the Obama campaign. By the time they realized what was happening, it was too late.


Don't you think Hillary gets some of the blame for that, though? From the article:

Quote:
"It does seem odd to have someone at the top of the organization who has no campaign experience," one strategist said. "Bill Clinton had people who had run campaigns. Patti and Maggie were there by virtue of their personal loyalty, not their campaign experience."


Anyway, I'm not counting her out just yet. It's certainly looking better and better for Obama but Ohio seems stubbornly pro-Hillary (I keep shaking my head [or rattling off letters] at local coverage -- as one minor example, I was watching the local news after the Thursday debate and they said that Obama was "suddenly cordial" in it -- eh? "Suddenly?" He's been the cordial one throughout. )
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:25 am
Sozobe
Sozobe, the "buck" stops with Hillary Clinton. "She chose an inexperienced campaign manager, crafted a message that didn't match the moment, fielded poor organizations in key states and built a budget that ran dry just when she needed money most."

Another thing I don't understand is why they didn't build a better mailing list of ordinary people instead of depending on big contributors? That was a deadly elitist mistake. It also didn't encourage ordinary people to donate and campaign for her. People are more likely to volunteer in campaigns if they've donated money to her campaign. I, for example, I voted for Clinton but was never contacted by the Clinton campaign to donate or to volunteer. Big mistake.

My first choice candidate was Senator Joe Biden. I still think he was the best qualified candidate for the common good of the country.

BBB
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 12:18 pm
Hillary impaired by husband, then another man
¿Quién Es Less Macho?
By MAUREEN DOWD, New York Times Op-ed Columnist
Published: February 24, 2008

If this is truly the Decline and Fall of the Clinton Empire, it is marked by one freaky stroke of bad luck and one striking historical irony.

How likely is it that a woman who finally unfetters herself from one superstar then finds herself eclipsed by another?

And when historians trace how her inevitability dissolved, they will surely note this paradox: The first serious female candidate for president was rejected by voters drawn to the more feminine management style of her male rival.

The bullying and bellicosity of the Bush administration have left many Americans exhausted and yearning for a more nurturing and inclusive style.

Sixteen years of politicians in Washington clashing in epic if not always essential battle through culture wars, the right-wing war against the Clintons, the war-without-end on terror, and the war-with-no-end-in-sight in Iraq have spawned a desire for peace and pragmatism.

Hillary was so busy trying to prove she could be one of the boys ?- getting on the Armed Services Committee, voting to let W. go to war in Iraq, strong-arming supporters and donors, and trying to out-macho Obama ?- that she only belatedly realized that many Democratic and independent voters, especially women, were eager to move from hard-power locker-room tactics to a soft-power sewing circle approach.

Less towel-snapping and more towel color coordinating, less steroids and more sensitivity.

Business schools have begun teaching the value of a less autocratic leadership style, with an emphasis on behavior women excel at: reading emotions and social interactions, making eye contact and expressing empathy.

At the University of Texas on Thursday morning, Obama proved that he was not a cowboy in overdrive like W. when he demurred at throwing a spiral because his pass might not be as good as the Longhorn stars'.

After so many years when W. and Cheney stomped on the world and the world glared back, many Americans would like to see their government focus more on those staples of female fiction: relationships and conversation.

At first in Austin, Hillary did not channel Jane Austen. She tried once more to cast Obama as a weak sister on his willingness to talk to Raúl Castro.

Obama tapped into his inner chick and turned the other cheek. To cheers, he said, "I think that it's important for us, in undoing the damage that has been done over the last seven years, for the president to be willing to take that extra step."

Hillary tried to rough up Obama on copying his pal's language even as she copied her husband's line from 1992: "The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits that the people in this state and this country are taking every day of their lives under this administration."

While Obama looked at her warily, even fearfully, Hillary suddenly switched to her feminine side. Getting New Hampshire misty, she said she was "absolutely honored" to be there with him and that "whatever happens, we're going to be fine." (Her campaign defended the originality of the John Edwardsian sentiment, saying it had even been expressed by the likes of Lindsay Lohan). The press hailed the moment as heartfelt, but it was simply Hillary's calculated attempt to woo women and protect her future in the party ?- by seeming more collegial. She's furious that the Chicago kid got in the picture.

Her "My sister, my daughter" flip from muscular to tremulous left everyone confused. Many characterized her emulation of empathy as elegiac and submissive.

But she dispelled that Friday morning when she told Evan Smith, the editor of Texas Monthly, that she will push for Florida and Michigan delegates to be seated, despite her promise. Not for herself, mind you, but for them. "It's in large measure because both the voters and the elected officials in Michigan and Florida feel so strongly about this," she said.

Among her other cascading woes, it turns out that Hillary is not able to manage her political family's money. Like a prudent housekeeper, Obama spent the cash he raised ?- including from his continuing relationships with small donors ?- far more shrewdly, on ads rather than on himself.

Hillaryland spent like a hedge fund manager in a flat-screen TV store. Her campaign attempted to show omnipotence by lavishing a fortune on the take-no-prisoners strategists Howard Wolfson and Mark Penn, and on having the best of everything from the set decoration at events to Four Seasons rooms. In January alone, they spent $11,000 on pizza, $1,200 on Dunkin' Donuts and $95,384 at a Des Moines Hy-Vee grocery store for get-out-the-vote sandwich platters.

But total domination in the snack arena does not cut the mustard.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 12:49 pm
Re: Sozobe
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Another thing I don't understand is why they didn't build a better mailing list of ordinary people instead of depending on big contributors? That was a deadly elitist mistake. It also didn't encourage ordinary people to donate and campaign for her. People are more likely to volunteer in campaigns if they've donated money to her campaign. I, for example, I voted for Clinton but was never contacted by the Clinton campaign to donate or to volunteer. Big mistake.

I think this is a weakness of the Clintons in general. Since B. Clinton's first term, they've always gone with the "smart" crowd and assumed that they and their allies know best. The little people have never been high on their list. The Republicans have always been good at moving the common man using fear. Fear of terrorism, fear of homosexuals, fear of immigrants, etc. Clinton tries to fight for that vote, but she really doesn't connect. She doesn't offer something to counter the fear.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 04:50 pm
sozobe wrote:
I think the success of the Swiftboaters had a lot to do with pre-existing problems with #2. People couldn't quite connect to Kerry, thought he was elitist and remote. I think he formed sentences fine but wasn't a communicator.


You may have a point. He was more in tune with those well educated and informed, and probably held in some disdain by those less educated and informed.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 05:25 pm
BBB, agreed on where the buck stops.

By the way, I was making a point with my #1 and #2 above, but for the record I'll add #3, "ability to bring good ideas to fruition." I think that Obama is the strongest there, too.

Advocate, yeah. I think Kerry would have made a good president -- certainly better than Bush! -- but he was so darn Northeastern, in all the wrong ways.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 07:29 am
Hillary has reached another new low for her sarcastic display as indicated here.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/52534.html

I do not recall Obamas message of hope including any of the "smack" this fat witch was mentioning.

I probably will not vote for Obama, however, I find him an interesting and fresh face on the scene. From the perspective of political experience, he has at least as much as the CarpetBagger from Illinois or Arkansas has.

She is boring and so is her "posse".
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 02:29 pm
Re: Hillary Clinton for President - 2008
Butrflynet wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any one place for supporters of the Hillary Clinton for President campaign to gather and discuss things on A2K.

Now there is...


ding dong the witch is dead!

or so we hope!

please Dorthey drop your house on her!!!
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 04:58 pm
I'm starting to get annoyed with the anti-Hillary speak. She's not my candidate but the overt personalized nastiness is annoying.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 06:55 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
I'm starting to get annoyed with the anti-Hillary speak. She's not my candidate but the overt personalized nastiness is annoying.


Shocked
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 06:58 pm
Quote:
"She has a real military discipline that, now that times are tough, has really kicked into gear," said Judith Hope, a friend and informal adviser to Mrs. Clinton, and a former chairwoman of the New York State Democratic Party. "When she's on the road and someone has a negative news story, she says, ?'I don't want to hear it; I don't need to hear it.' I think she wants to protect herself from that and stay focused.


Source

Cheney's modus operandi - she haz it.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 08:44 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
I'm starting to get annoyed with the anti-Hillary speak. She's not my candidate but the overt personalized nastiness is annoying.

I think you find that with just about every candidate mentioned here. It is not too hard to find anti-McCain, anti-Obama, anti_Nadar, etc threads all through the board. You have to work hard to find civil debate just about anywhere these days.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 10:37 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
Where are the Keating Five Today?
By Liz - Feb 16th, 2008 at 10:50 am EST



Introduction

Both McCain and Hillary Clinton (although not a member of the Keating Five) are survivors, few will argue that: In addition to Vietnam, McCain survived being one of the Keating Five and lived to be a candidate for the highest office in this land, and Hillary survived numerous scandals of the Clinton Administration, not to mention a few of her own (Whitewater and her 6 year s experience as a paid Board member of Wal-Mart, the largest union busting corporation in the world being two of the most outstanding). But I am one voter who hardly considers a candidate's ability to survive as a recommendation in and of itself for the office of the President of the United States of America.

It's interesting to see how intertwined the Clintons are with McCain as one researches deeper into the roots of the current Mortgage crisis. Its roots appear to go back to the Savings and Loan Crisis. I'm beginning to better understand what Bill Clinton means when he said that his wife and John McCain would have a most civil campaign. I imagine they would--but not necessarily for reasons that would please a REAL democrat.

WHERE ARE THE KEATING FIVE TODAY?

The three most significant players in today's terms of the Keating Five were: John McCain, John Glenn (who recently endorsed Hillary Clinton) and Dennis DeConini whom Bill Clinton in 1995 appointed to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

This is an incredibly, intellectually dishonest, but clever, attempt at reconfiguring history. The insinuation implicit in this comment is that John McCain was one of the most significant players in the Keating Five. Of course the reality is that McCain was the least significant of the Keating Five in terms (that actually matter) of questionably ethical behavior.

As the presumptive Republican nominee for the presidency in 2008, McCain is, obviously, THE most significant player IN TODAY'S TERMS. Of course this is an utterly irrelevant perspective. Because someone, IN TODAY'S TERMS, is significant has nothing to do with that person's significance in an incident that took place decades ago.

For comparison sake let's consider a hypothetical. Ten years ago a young woman is murdered in Chicago. One of the people the police question is Barrack Obama because there is a rumor that the two have had an affair. No one is ever able to prove the affair let alone that Obama had anything to do with the demise of the young woman. Now, ten years later, a journalist who is willing to scarifice her credibility for the sake of her politics writes an article that tells us that IN TODAY'S TERMS, Obama is the most significant suspect in the murder of this woman.

Well yes, in today's terms, he would be unless Bill Clinton or George Bush were also questioned.

This hypothetical exaggerates to make a point which should not be dismissed simply because McCain is a Republican.

The most significant figures among the Keating Five, by any all meaningful terms, were Democrats, and the most significant was Alan Cranston.

Yes, this author, eventually, acknowledges this, but her attempt to paint McCain and Hillary Clinton in shades of black is quite obvious.

By the author's reasoning, let's consider Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama. She, obviously, has a huge problem with Hillary accepting the endorsement of the utterly corrupt John Glenn, but apparently no problem with Obama's acceptance of the endorsement of a man who left a young woman to drown while he saved his political ass.

Since we should judge Hillary by her endorsers, let's look at Obama's: Al Sharpton - Well there's an upstanding individual. Can you say Tawana Brawley? Hulk Hogan? No problem there? John Kerry? Three Purple Hearts and never a day's sick leave.

So it's all a Republican Attack Machine - right?





Clinton's appointment was the year after DeConini had retired because of the Savings and Loan scandal and the subsequent Senate Ethics committee in 1991 that had concluded that Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle's conduct constituted substantial interference with the FHLBB's enforcement efforts and that they had done so at the behest of Charles Keating. The committee recommended censure for Cranston and criticized the other four for "questionable conduct."

Why on earth would a President such appoint a man of such questionable background to a position of influence in the financial industry? And one might just as well question the judgm ent of Hillary Clinton for accepting the endorsement of John Glenn, who was also a member of the Keating Five. Did she think that Americans would be so stupid as to only remember Glenn's history as astronaut? Part of being President of this country involves using good judgment and vetting your endorsements and people who contribute money to your campaigns.

Hillary is quick to criticize Obama on Rezko while ignoring her own lack of judgment allow a photo of herself to be taken with Rezko, and to not vet the contributions coming from Hsu a contributor to Hillary's campaign. Hsu now is facing possible jail time as is Rezko. Both candidates have returned the funds.

WHERE IS MCCAIN TODAY?

This senator is one of two from the Keating Five who was e xonerated in a declaration that his only crime was "poor judgment"--still this is not an altogether reassuring endorsement for a man who is now running for the highest office in our land.

WHERE IS JOHN GLENN TODAY?

Well this 87 year old (the third American to fly in space and the first American to orbit the Earth) lives in Ohio and has recently endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Glenn was named one of the "Keating Five" for accepting a $200,000 contribution from convicted savings and loan executive Charles H. Keating Jr., but a 1991 Senate commission declared that his only crime was "poor judgment."

Glenn and Republican Senator John McCain were the only Senators exoneratedGlenn's role in the Senate fund-raising hearings struck some observers as atypical. The normally even- tempered Glenn repeatedly lambasted majority Republicans, including committee chairman Fred Thompson, for "hardball" partisanship.


WHERE IS DENNIS DECONINI TODAY?

Unlike Glenn and McCain, the Senate Ethics committee in 1991 concluded that Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle's conduct constituted substantial interference with the FHLBB's enforcement efforts and that they had done so at the behest of Charles Keating. Needless to say, DeConini did not get re-elected. But not to worry, Bill had a job for him. Bill Clinton in 1995 appointed to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, and many are questioning today DeConini's influence on the current mortgage crisis.

Today DeConini has his fingers in numerous pies:
On Feb 13, 2008, the Corrections Corporation of America, the largest provider of corrections management services to government agencies ann ounced that DeConcini has been elected as a member of its board of directors.

Perhaps one of the reasons why DeConini was appointed to the board of directors including his connections to the Clintons might also be the fact that DeConcini also is a Principal in the lobbyist consulting firm Parry, Romani, DeConcini & Lacy P.C. in Washington, D.C.

http://www.ibtimes.com/prnews/20080213/corrections-corporation-of-america-elects-former-senator-dennis-deconcini-to-its-board-of-directors.htm

WHERE IS ALAN CRANSTON TODAY?

He died in 2000 at the age of 86.
From WIKI: He was reprimanded by the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics for "improper conduct" on November 20, 1991 after he accepted $1 million in campaign contributions from the Lincoln Savings head, Charles Keating. Keating had wanted federal regulators to stop "hounding" his savings and loan. The committee deemed Cranston's misconduct the worst among the Keating Five. Cranston decided against running for a fifth term while he battled prostate cancer.

WHERE IS RIEGLE TODAY?

Senator Donald W. Riegle, Jr. was one of the three from the KEATING Five whose conduct was found to have constituted substantial interference with the FHLBB's enforcement efforts and that they had done so at the behest of Charles Keating. He wisely did not run for re-election to the Senate.

But if you think that his influence is DC has wained, you would be wrong. Like DeConini, Riegle too is among the many federal lobbyists who now crowd DC and peddle their influence. In 1995, he joined Weber Shandwick Public Affairs in Washington, D.C., serving as executive committee chair.

But as one who has a soft spot in her heart for Veterans, it is to Riegle's credit that he was very outspoken in asking for further investigation and recourse for war veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome.

You may remember how our government wanted to pretend that this syndrome did not exist so they could get out of paying for our veterans healthcare. And please note: This was in 1994 on Bill Clinton's watch when our Vets were being treated this way.


DO YOU BEGIN TO GET THE DRIFT OF HOW AND WHY DC IS SO CORRUPT AND RIFE WITH LOBBYISTS PEDDLING THEIR INFLUENCE IN DC? Hillary thinks this is just fine--which is but one more reason why she will not get my vote in the upcoming Texas Primary.


Link To Post: http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/elizabethberry/CtGT
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 11:37 pm
nimh wrote:
nimh wrote:
Breakfast with Chelsea? Yes, you can - if you're a superdelegate

And Bill will call you too. And John Kerry. And Madeleine Albright.



Quote:
College Junior Breakfasts With Chelsea Clinton
21-Year-Old Wisconsin Super Delegate Gets Face Time With Former First Daughter


ABC News
Feb. 11, 2008


The 21-year old in question, Jason Rae, says Marc Ambinder, has endorsed Barack Obama.


Yep. Gotta love his reason:

Quote:
He cited Obama's support from an overwhelming majority of young voters as the major reason for his decision.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/21/superdelegate-schmoozed-by-chelsea-backs-obama/

What a sheep.

Can this poli sci major think for himself? It appears that he cannot.

Doncha just love the education system that churns out such Me Toos ?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 07:01 am
This witch, Hillary, is a liar. Obviously she can not control her staff as this is not the first time someone "on her staff" leaked something negative out about Obama.

If she can not control her staff, how can she possible lead a nation?

Oh, right, I forgot, 35 years of experience. My a$$! Evil or Very Mad

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/clinton-on-phot.html

ABC News' Teddy Davis and Jacqueline Klingebiel Report: During a Monday interview with ABC's Dallas affiliate, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., did not flatly deny the DrudgeReport's charge that her campaign forwarded a photo of rival Barack Obama in traditional African dress.

She then turned the tables on her Democratic rival and accused him of using the controversy to distract the public's attention from deficiencies in his platform and experience.

"I know nothing about it," Clinton told ABC affiliate WFAA. "This is in the public domain. But let's just stop and ask yourself: 'Why are you -- why is anybody concerned about this?'"
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