If Clinton Wins

Bill wrote-

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Asherman wrote:
I should hope that the general election will be about competence and character.

For sure.

I thought you might be interested in Alexander Cockburn's review, (Can't have one without the other), in the Sunday Times of Sally Bedell Smith's book The Clintons in the White House

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nimh wrote:

sozobe wrote:
Does it have to be either/or?

I'd agree that the economy is at the forefront of many people's minds and is the #1 issue overall. But I think the war is also a major issue.

Of course, but EB said the election will "largely be" about the war. I think it will "largely be" about the economy. But of course other issues will play an important role too.

You said, "I think it's going to be about the economy." But you were responding to "largely," so OK.

(And yes, that's what I was referring to, thanks FreeDuck. I agree that Obama and Hillary are unlikely to be each others' VPs, engineer, and in fact made a bet with blatham about that a while ago now.)

Advocate, aside from how Bill Clinton did as president, what did you think of my post where I talk about the weird, undefined role he'd have if Hillary wins, and implications thereof?

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Advocate wrote:

Engineer, I disagree that Hillarycare was unrealistic, and wager that you can't support your statement. It was largely based on the present German system, which is highly successful. It failed to take effect due to unrelenting and distorted PR by the Reps, and self-serving HMOs, and insurance companies.

Also, you are wrong on "don't ask, don't tell." It was far from a disaster, and was a great temporary fix. I wager your can't support your claim that it made things worse for homosexuals.

Assuming that you can dicate a change for an entire healthcare system without getting the buy in from the major players was unrealistic. The system she proposed was not, the way she proposed it was.

I've seen several articles on the impact of Don't ask-don't tell on the military. If I can dredge up the time, I'll look for them, but you could do a search on your own as well. I didn't make up the claim.

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engineer wrote:

Advocate wrote:
Engineer, I disagree that Hillarycare was unrealistic, and wager that you can't support your statement. It was largely based on the present German system, which is highly successful. It failed to take effect due to unrelenting and distorted PR by the Reps, and self-serving HMOs, and insurance companies.

Also, you are wrong on "don't ask, don't tell." It was far from a disaster, and was a great temporary fix. I wager your can't support your claim that it made things worse for homosexuals.

Assuming that you can dicate a change for an entire healthcare system without getting the buy in from the major players was unrealistic. The system she proposed was not, the way she proposed it was.

I've seen several articles on the impact of Don't ask-don't tell on the military. If I can dredge up the time, I'll look for them, but you could do a search on your own as well. I didn't make up the claim.

It is pretty hard to beat the Reps when they unleash their false and vicious attacks, which was what was unleased on Hillarycare. Ask Bob Kerry about the swiftboaters. BTW, AARP, a powerful ally on anything, originally endorsed the plan, but later backed off due to tremendous pressure from the right, including right-wing members.

You made the claim about "don't ask," so you should be able to support it.

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