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WTF Kiwis are not australian

 
 
Dartboy
 
Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 03:47 am
In the brief about this thread or watever its called it says
"Do you like kiwis, kangaroos, Tasmanian devils and koalas?"
KIWIS are from New Zealand, not bloody australia,
I posted this just to rave because I had being mistaken for being australia or something from New Zealand being mistaken as australian.
Ur thoughts?
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 03:55 am
Geography is a very imprecise science, at least in some people's mind...

Do you know where to find Nukunonu?
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 04:05 am
Dartboy, welcome to A2K. I had no idea about the kiwi, so I searched out the image.

http://static.flickr.com/39/77924849_5a3ca67b95.jpg

Kiwi chicks hatch fully feathered with their eyes open and begin foraging for small worms and berries after their first week of life, since they receive no help from their parents.
The kiwi hatched on Monday, February 13, weighing in at 9.7 ounces (275 grams) after 64 days of incubation. Zoo staff monitored the egg each day, by weighing it and using a bright light to illuminate the egg's interior.
The National Zoo is one of just four zoos in the world to breed kiwis outside of New Zealand. In 1975 the National Zoo was the first institution outside of New Zealand to hatch a kiwi. That 30-year-old bird is still on exhibit at the zoo's Bird House.
The five recognized species of kiwis are all flightless, nocturnal, burrowing birds that are unique to New Zealand. North Island brown kiwis are listed as endangered by the International Union of Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 04:41 am
Re: WTF Kiwis are not australian
Dartboy wrote:
In the brief about this thread or watever its called it says
"Do you like kiwis, kangaroos, Tasmanian devils and koalas?"
KIWIS are from New Zealand, not bloody australia,
I posted this just to rave because I had being mistaken for being australia or something from New Zealand being mistaken as australian.
Ur thoughts?



I complained similarly at the site's inception.


Our creator said that we are considered to be all part of some entity called Oceania, or somesuch.

But..I feel your pain.






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania




http://chamorrobible.org/images/chamorrobibleproject/map-oceania-2002.jpg






http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/au.htm
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:09 am
Australia's still the name of the continent, innit?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 04:02 pm
jespah wrote:
Australia's still the name of the continent, innit?






Australia is NOT the name of any of the the countries......except...er...Australia.


Kiwis do not live in Australai, but they DO live in New Zealand.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 04:09 pm
You people just resent the Inaccurate Western view of World Geography.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 04:43 pm
I think, possibly, the geography is correct......but the effect sucketh mightily.


It's like, say, calling South America Brazil, and then referring to things that occur only in Tierra del Fuego.


Why not just call it Oceania?


It'snot like it's a big thing, but it's like a pea under all the mattresses, I suppose, for New Zilluners.
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Dartboy
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:10 am
jespah wrote:
Australia's still the name of the continent, innit?

OMG I HEAR THAT SO MUCH, if I knew where you lived id kill you, damn New Zealand isnt part of aussie, we are two different countries, its like saying japan is part of china, get it?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:19 am
Laughing And here I thought you were talking about fruit.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:22 am
Dartboy wrote:
jespah wrote:
Australia's still the name of the continent, innit?

OMG I HEAR THAT SO MUCH, if I knew where you lived id kill you, damn New Zealand isnt part of aussie, we are two different countries, its like saying japan is part of china, get it?



But even if New Zealand isn't part of Australia (the country) or Australia (the continent), Australia is still the name of both the country and of the continent. Right?
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:33 am
Quote:
Australasia is a term variably used to describe a region of Oceania: Australia, New Zealand, and neighbouring islands in the Pacific Ocean. The term was coined by Charles de Brosses in Histoire des navigations aux terres australes (1756). He derived it from the Latin for "south of Asia" and differentiated the area from Polynesia (to the east) and the southeast Pacific (Magellanica). It is also distinct from Micronesia (to the northeast).

Physiographically, Australasia includes the Australian continent (along with the Australian island-state of Tasmania), New Zealand, and Melanesia: New Guinea and neighbouring islands north and east of Australia in the Pacific Ocean. The designation is sometimes applied to all the lands and islands of the Pacific Ocean lying between the equator and latitude 47° south.

Most of Australia lies on the southern portion of the Indo-Australian Plate, flanked by the Indian Ocean to the west and the Southern Ocean to the south. Peripheral territories lie on the Eurasian Plate to the northwest, the Philippine Plate to the north, and in the Pacific Ocean - including numerous marginal seas - atop the Pacific Plate to the north and east.

Geopolitically, Australasia is sometimes used as a term for Australia and New Zealand together, in the absence of another word limited to those two countries. There are many organizations whose names are prefixed with "(Royal) Australasian Society" that are limited to just Australia and New Zealand.


Australasian Olympic FlagIn the past, Australasia has been used as a name for combined Australia/New Zealand sporting teams. Examples include tennis between 1905 and 1913, when Australia and New Zealand combined its best players to compete in the Davis Cup international tournament (and won it in 1907, 1908, 1909 and 1911), and at the Olympic Games of 1908 and 1912. Australasia also competed in the 1911 Festival of Light in London, the precursor of the Commonwealth Games.

In speculative fiction or counterfactual historical analysis, it is used to describe an alternate history Australia and New Zealand which agreed to political union at Australian federation in 1901, rather than seeking divergent British Empire Dominion status in 1901 and 1907 respectively.

Anthropologists, although disagreeing on details, generally support theories that call for a Southeastern Asian origin of indigenous island peoples in Australasia and neighboring subregions.

From an ecological perspective the Australasia ecozone is a distinct region with a common evolutionary history and a great many unique flora and fauna. In this context, Australasia is limited to Australia, New Guinea, and neighbouring islands, including the Indonesian islands from Lombok and Sulawesi eastward. The biological dividing line from Asia is the Wallace line - Borneo and Bali lie on the western, Asian side. New Zealand comprises another ecological zone altogether, as it had been isolated from the rest of the world, including the rest of Australasia, for even longer.

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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:43 am
Dartboy wrote:
jespah wrote:
Australia's still the name of the continent, innit?

OMG I HEAR THAT SO MUCH, if I knew where you lived id kill you, damn New Zealand isnt part of aussie, we are two different countries, its like saying japan is part of china, get it?



See? Pea/mattress.

I rest my case.


old europe wrote:
Dartboy wrote:
jespah wrote:
Australia's still the name of the continent, innit?

OMG I HEAR THAT SO MUCH, if I knew where you lived id kill you, damn New Zealand isnt part of aussie, we are two different countries, its like saying japan is part of china, get it?



But even if New Zealand isn't part of Australia (the country) or Australia (the continent), Australia is still the name of both the country and of the continent. Right?



Yes.


But the country of Australia does NOT include the country, New Zealand.


This Forum, which is called Australia has names the kiwi, which is NOT an Australian bird...thus denoting that New Zealand is to be discussed under Australia.


That's like including discussions of Canada under the USA, rather than under North America.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:44 am
I was taught, in school, about Australasia and Oceania, but I'm not at all surprised at people's limited knowledge of geography...

Even from those who are so adamant about local stuff...

People from Ingushi will be very upset if you don't know their capital...
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:47 am
Francis wrote:
I was taught, in school, about Australasia and Oceania, but I'm not at all surprised at people's limited knowledge of geography...

Even from those who are so adamant about local stuff...

People from Ingushi will be very upset if you don't know their capital...





I don't think that equating New Zealand with Australia is so very local! It's a different COUNTRY! You have to FLY to it! There'd be five different countries beneath your wings before you got there, if it were the same distance travelled in Europe!



Call it Australasis, or Oceania...no beef. But calling it Australia is gonna piss off all the New Zealanders no end.




Threatening people over it is ridiculous, of course.....but it is a recipe for fireworks from time to time.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 02:56 am
dlowan wrote:
But the country of Australia does NOT include the country, New Zealand.


And apparently, neither does the continent. In fact, there seems to be a whole continent called Zealandia. Who'd've known?


dlowan wrote:
This Forum, which is called Australia has names the kiwi, which is NOT an Australian bird...thus denoting that New Zealand is to be discussed under Australia.


Now that's just rude.


dlowan wrote:
That's like including discussions of Canada under the USA, rather than under North America.


Or discussions about Austria under Germany, I suppose.


I'd be offended.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 03:02 am
Bunny, I'm able to know the differents countries of the world.

What I mean is that to the average people from Minnesota or Puglia such distinction is beyond their immediate concern..

Now, I would like Dartboy answer my initial question without further research...
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 03:06 am
old europe wrote:
dlowan wrote:
But the country of Australia does NOT include the country, New Zealand.


And apparently, neither does the continent. In fact, there seems to be a whole continent called Zealandia. Who'd've known?


dlowan wrote:
This Forum, which is called Australia has names the kiwi, which is NOT an Australian bird...thus denoting that New Zealand is to be discussed under Australia.


Now that's just rude.


dlowan wrote:
That's like including discussions of Canada under the USA, rather than under North America.


Or discussions about Austria under Germany, I suppose.


I'd be offended.



Lol! It sure feels that way...but I think Craven is technically correct. It's just that hardly anybody seems aware of the tech which he is nically in the right about.



Francis wrote:
Bunny, I'm able to know the differents countries of the world.

What I mean is that to the average people from Minnesota or Puglia such distinction is beyond their immediate concern..

Now, I would like Dartboy answer my initial question without further research...




I know you are Mr F...I was just saying that I thought your analogy was not very analogous.


But perhaps it is...sigh......
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Dartboy
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 03:12 am
Francis wrote:
Bunny, I'm able to know the differents countries of the world.

What I mean is that to the average people from Minnesota or Puglia such distinction is beyond their immediate concern..

Now, I would like Dartboy answer my initial question without further research...


you mean the "Do you know where to find Nukunonu?" well I cant say I do, why
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Francis
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 03:25 am
Well, one is not supposed to know an island of a New Zealand administered territory...

Just like people in other parts of the world don't know what Kiwis are...
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