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Schwarzenegger Announces : Running for CA Gov.

 
 
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:17 pm
It should, just like it would on a job application. Apparantly getting elected to a government post isn't really a job. It's a title, like a Lord or a Prince. So Arnold already has some titles, "Conan the Barbarian" amongst them. I have no idea whether he would be a good governor or a bad governor but giving him the job to find out is rather scary.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:17 pm
Sofia wrote:
Which is why I'm amazed people are still trying to throw some lame groping and pot puffing from the 70's out, thinking it makes any difference.


lame groping Shocked

Where were you during the impeachment?

I'm sorry, dear Sofia, but this just doesn't cut it.

You conservatives can't have it both ways.

You can either denounce the same behavior in Republicans that you do in Democrats, or you can wear the scarlet 'H'.

We'll paste it across Ms. Judd's grin.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:20 pm
Wonder how many large corporations (which California is, after all) would hire on Arnold to fix their financial problems? All the big movie studios are after him to take over their operations. Yeah, right!
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:22 pm
Democrats can't have it both ways! Shocked You won the President banging the Intern half his age Sweepstakes! Congratulations! You successfully lowered the bar for all future Presidential behavior.

And, the new rules apply to everybody.

Smoke pot, and grope for tomorrow you may be President!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:24 pm
Well said, PDiddie.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:30 pm
It isn't just the groping and smoking pot -- although that's what the press will plaster all over the airwaves, the Internet and periodicals.
It's the resume for the job application for Governor. Would you hire this man for anything more than moving around furniture, which I'm sure he can handle? Let's definitely see what he has to say about issues, like getting California out of debt without raising taxes. Good luck, Arnie.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:34 pm
LW-- Your point is valid.
The point PDid is trying to make is ridiculous in the post-Clinton era of American politics. The skeleton hunting is moot, now.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:37 pm
If it's debatable ("moot"), what's wrong with raising the issue, debating it?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:40 pm
I thought you guys might like some more mud so my buddy Tim here is mixing some up for you.

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/DpCathy/MidCoast2002/Tim-coming-Thru-themud.jpg
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:40 pm
I believe the uncovering of skeletons can still be injurious to the candidate if it is piled up with other factors. Machiavelli was right and our democracy is the right to vote for what incompetant one wants to knight. It's all about power and titles, now isn't it? We fawn over or degrade those in politics, all along knowing that most of us are not the type of person who would ever want to be "in office" ourselves. The politician is a prime example of something that is neither fish nor fowl. Trouble is, most of the time they're just plain foul.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:41 pm
Since no Democrat or media spent any real time dissecting Bush's lack of character before and after the election, it is a good bet they may gloss over Arnold's bad points as well.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:42 pm
In this day of tabloid journalism and politics, I'd be highly suspiscious of anyone with a squeaky clean background.

Arnold's biggest selling point for governorship was that he wasn't Darrell Issa. Now that Issa has pulled out, Arnold has to hire the script writers, directors and producers to write the screenplay for him. He can't get by with just being the better looking stunt double, although I'm sure that being a stunt double is one of those "truly fantastic jobs" he promises for every Californian.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:43 pm
ah is that symbolic of our quagmire in Iraq? you done good cjhsa its a great metaphor.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:44 pm
Don't underestimate Arnold. He has an MBA. Just like Bush.

!!!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 04:45 pm
Laughing A stunt double! He's liable to break the back of every tax payer in the state under the guise of creating jobs. How long can he keep his plan a secret. Do you really believe he will run on issues and actually have a plan? I don't think so.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 05:05 pm
Quote:
Calif. Recall Not Just Political Novelty

Thursday August 7, 2003 11:49 PM


By MICHELLE LOCKE

Associated Press Writer

BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) - What began as yet another political novelty from the nation's most populous state has morphed into a spectacle remarkable even by California standards.

With everyone from Arnold Schwarzenegger to porn prince Larry Flynt jumping into the race to recall beleaguered Gov. Gray Davis, the reality TV show that has commandeered California politics has turned permanently, seriously weird.

``Sadly,'' Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Wednesday as she ruled out running, California is ``going to be engaged in an election that is becoming more and more like a carnival every day.''

And that was before Schwarzenegger shocked even his own closest political advisers by announcing on ``The Tonight Show'' that he was getting in the race.

It's hard to look at California's election slate without giggling - or panicking. Under the recall law, drafted during a wave of populism in 1911, it takes only $3,500 and signatures from 65 voters to run. The election is set for Oct. 7, but a slew of court challenges could delay or even call the whole thing off.

Potential candidates so far include a lady selling thong underwear and a motorcyclist who hopes to legalize pet ferrets. And the 99 Cents Only stores in Los Angeles are running a promotion promising to pay the filing fee and gather signatures for any 99-year-old who'd love to be gov.

Kind of makes wrestler Jesse ``The Body'' Ventura - who did, after all, serve as a small-city mayor before becoming governor of Minnesota - look like a political veteran.

But there's serious anger underlying the festival atmosphere. This is an electorate that in recent years has endured an energy crisis and a battering of its high-tech economy and now faces the prospect of higher taxes and fees.

``California's law has turned something important into a circus,'' said Brian Rosman, a tourist from Newton, Mass., visiting San Francisco on Thursday. ``The problems are tax revenues, the huge corporate manipulation of the energy crisis a few years ago, the decline in the high-tech world. Those problems don't get solved by getting a new governor.''

The people actually running state government have struggled, too. The state went a month without a budget as lawmakers squabbled before passing a compromise bill in July that includes billions in IOUs.


Still, it's likely one-liners will trump the bottom line, at least for now.

It was a gift to headline writers and late-night comedians around the world when the the star of a movie called ``Total Recall'' turned into ``The Running Man.'' And while most politicians must content themselves with Sunday morning talk shows, all Schwarzenegger had to do was go across town to chat with fellow celebrity and pal Jay Leno.

``It's the most difficult decision I've ever made in my entire life,'' he told the ``Tonight'' host, ``except for the one in 1978 when I decided to get a bikini wax.''

Actors have turned politician before, but some students of the craft wonder whether Ah-nuld will have the off-screen charisma of former California Gov. Ronald Reagan.

``In 'Kindergarten Cop,' he played a cop who takes over a classroom full of 5- and 6-year-olds - all of whom are too silly and immature to understand they should be afraid of him,'' wrote San Francisco Chronicle movie critic Mick LaSalle in Thursday's paper. ``I imagine the press conferences in Sacramento might look something like that.''

Hustler publisher Flynt, paralyzed by a bullet from a white supremacist, also a declared candidate, urged Californians to ``vote for the smut-peddler with a heart.''

``I may be paralyzed from the waist down,'' said Flynt, ``but unlike Gray Davis, I'm not paralyzed from the neck up.''

For a while, the Democratic posse looked pretty tight. But the solidarity buckled in the face of a potential Schwarzenegger juggernaut shortly after Feinstein - who survived her own grueling recall election as mayor of San Francisco - said she wouldn't join the race. Urged on by other Democrats, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante - the state's leading Hispanic politician - announced his run.

``The Terminator'' had the opposite effect on a fellow Republican: U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, the car alarm magnate who spent $1.7 million of his own fortune to make the recall happen, bowed out Thursday, crying at what was supposed to be the official launch of his campaign.

Tourists waiting for San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to open on Thursday called the recall a circus, an aberration, ``a sad thing.''

``Coming from the East Coast, we're looking at California saying `What's going on?''' said Dina Haskal of Somerset, N.J. ``We are scratching our heads.''

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 05:11 pm
Flynt isn't even the only porn luminary to be running. Last night the local Fox affiliate (natch) did a lengthy segment on a porno actress who's also running. To say she was scantily clad would be an understatement...
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 05:14 pm
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Biographical information on Arnold Schwarzenegger, actor and gubernatorial candidate

The Associated Press Thursday, August 7, 2003

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(08-07) 02:17 PDT (AP) --

NAME: Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger

AGE-BIRTHDAY: 56. Born July 30, 1947.

HOMETOWN: Thal, Styria, Austria. Became a U.S. citizen in 1983.

EDUCATION: Graduated from University of Wisconsin-Superior, 1979.

CAREER: Worked as body builder and won Mr. Olympia title seven times, from 1970-1975 and in 1980. Starred in several films before breakout role in 1982's "Conan the Barbarian." Starred in "The Terminator" in 1984, "The Running Man" in 1987 and "True Lies" in 1994. Most recently appears in "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines."

POLITICAL EXPERIENCE: Successfully championed California Proposition 49, a state ballot initiative aimed at dedicating as much as $550 million annually to before- and after-school programs.

POLITICAL AFFILIATION: Republican. Headed President George H. W. Bush's Council on Physical Fitness.

FAMILY: Married to journalist Maria Shriver, daughter of Eunice Kennedy Shriver and former vice presidential candidate Sargent Shriver. The couple has four children, ranging in age from 5 to 13.

CHARITY WORK: Fundraiser and volunteer for Special Olympics.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 05:21 pm
Edgar -- Take a look at Gore's speech today if you want to see a serious challenge to Bush's credibility. It's available at moveon. org, and I've posted excerpts in a new thread, "Gore..."
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 05:24 pm
Just been there, done that, tart. Thanks.
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