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Schwarzenegger Announces : Running for CA Gov.

 
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 11:03 am
dyslexia wrote:
many from both sides of the political arena voted in a new govenor who, at best, will do no more damage than has already been done.


Way to stay optimistic, Dys!

I think Gray Davis should be required to hand the reins of Governorship over to Bustamante until Arnold gets sworn in. Davis is nothing but a liability to California right now.
At least Bustamante can still be held responsible for any action/inaction that occurs until that time.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 12:29 pm
That's not how it works.
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sumac
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 01:01 pm
I'm sure that the data you are interested in will become available.

BillW. - Not hardly.
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sumac
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 01:24 pm
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/votingmachines.htm
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 04:30 pm
A brief opinion.

I don't care for Davis. I don't care for Bustamante. But Kalifornia has sent a bad signal. Videocracy rules again.

On the lighter side, it's good to see a former illegal alien (who worked in the US without the papers) in such an important position. America is the land of opportunity.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 04:34 pm
Looks to me like Ahnold was ready to move on for some other reasons other than just to break into politics. "Terminator III" was suppose to bring in at least $300,000. at the box office -- it barely made over $150,000, a major dissapointment. It would be doubtful the studio would push for number IV but if they do, is Ahnold going to do the movie?
"Pirates of the Carribean" did do over $300,000.00 so perhaps we won't see Johnny Depp running for office anytime soon.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 04:35 pm
Ahnold said he's taking a break from the movie business, but not from his body building, physical fitness stuff.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 04:38 pm
Perhaps he wants to use the physical presence as an intimidation when addressing the legislature?

I just hope he drops all the movie cues -- I guess we will not be seeing him leap into a vat of molten metal after his first try at getting legislation through!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 04:42 pm
Guess what the budget was for "Terminator III."

$175,000.

Looks like a deficit to me.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 04:55 pm
What do you think of the theory that in a way, Schwarzenegger has Clinton to thank for his victory?

That theory would suggest that ten years ago, a candidate up for such an important election would never have gotten away with 'gropegate' - but that the Clinton sex scandals - and the way the far right persecuted him over them - have "desensitized" voters about such issues. They've gotten used to them. And that goes especially for the moderate democrats-MOR voters that had gone Clinton in the 90s and now failed to bolster up against Schwarzenegger.

One explanation among many, fersure, but do you think it works, at all?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 05:03 pm
I would agree that has something to do with it but I really thing it's because the voters had their mind made up to oust Davis and on name recognition alone, he had little problem garnering the votes. His campaigning was Clintonesque.

He was a producer on "Terminator III" and on the flop "Last Action Hero." With all the films he's made, they studio offered him a producer's credit on only three. Seems kinda strange -- you mean they didn't trust him to make money decisions?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 05:10 pm
That third picture, "The 6th Day" lost a bundle:

Budget: $82,000,000
Opening Weekend: $13,020,883 (USA)
Gross: $34,543,701 (USA) (12 January 2001)
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 05:27 pm
Happy Groping Sexism And A Head Like A Brick
Happy Groping Sexism And A Head Like A Brick
Mark Morford 10/8/03

Flags of intellectual acumen and nuanced understanding and general spiritual lightness were at half mast today as Californians banished much-loathed bland-as-oatmeal Gray Davis just 11 months into his second term and instead buried their heads in the sand and decided it's better to trash their state completely than let it be run by whimpering jerks, and elected mediocre action hero and rather embarrassing actor and noted sexist grope-aholic inarticulate completely inexperienced GOP lackey Arnold Schwarzenegger to replace him -- a Hollywood ending to one of the most extraordinary political melodramas in the nation's history, as well as one of the most adorably nauseating circus freakshows of all time, though the pit-of-the-stomach nausea is but a hint of the pain wrought when BushCo bought the election and drove a monosyllabic icepick into the heart of the nation.

Voters traded a career Democratic politician who became one of the state's most despised chief executives for a moderate Republican megastar who had never before run for office and who is pretty much completely unqualified in every possible way to run the most powerful state in the nation and the fifth largest economy in the world and whose happily narcotized wife looks like something a drunken plastic surgeon
practiced on with Play-Doh and squirrel parts.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2003/10/07/state2348EDT0231.DTL&nl=fix
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 06:00 pm
Another aspect of this whole womanizing bruhaha is that it was dirty politics as usual coming out just a few days before election day, and I think most people are sick and tired of it. Even women overwhelmingly voted for Ahnold.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 08:00 pm
nimh is correct. After the rapist and sexual harrasser who actually had a woman in the White House assigned to take care of "bimbo eruptions" was found to have been fellated by a young intern ten times in the Oval Office and after it was found that the president of the United States engaged in Phone sex with the same young intern and after it was found that the Governor of Arkansas had a long term affair with one Jennifer Flowers and after it was discovered that he groped Catherine Willey in the Oval Office, it was very difficult for the voters of California to vote against Arnold.

I am sure that many of them listened avidly to James Carville and Lanny Davis, Clinton's bootlickers, give the message out to the world on cable television again and again--

"The people don't care about his personal sex life, they just want him to take care of the business of running the country"

If the Democrats continue electing scumbags like Bill Clinton they may soon find that only scumbags will apply for office.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 10:48 pm
truth
It boggles the mind to realize that the world's fifth largest economy is now governed by Gonad the Barbarian.
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sumac
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 10:51 pm
nimh,
I do agree. Much desensitization and boredom have occurred. And the economic woes of California trump most other concerns. Besides, there was also the time factor. Voters had to decide fast.

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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 10:57 pm
truth
Are you guys still bent out of shape because of Clinton's pecadillos, that would not in themselves have hurt the country at all had his political enemies not jumped on them. What about the Iran-contra and Iraq deceptions? THERE you have intrinsically destructive actions that hurt the country whether or not anyone were to know of it.
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sumac
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 11:07 pm
I, for one, think that the sexual stuff is relatively unimportant in the scheme of things.

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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 11:37 pm
Nobody's Opinion is interesting. However, Judge Richard Posner, one of the country's most brilliant jurists doesn't agree with him.

Posner says in his book- "An Affair of State"

P. 266

"For those who think that authority depends on mystery, the shattering of the Presidential mystique has been a disaster for which Clinton ought of rights to have paid for with his job"

May I respectfully suggest that Judge Posner's expertise in law exceeds that of Nobody.
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