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Schwarzenegger Announces : Running for CA Gov.

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 07:24 pm
That's one aspect of Ahnold's run that didn't enter my mind. Very plausible, but I think Ahnold is still in hot pursuit of the gov's mansion.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 08:22 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
The details escapes me, but I thought I read in the paper recently that a judge settled the energy penalties down to a few measely million dollars from the original billions. Maybe somebody can find that article.


It's covered in that long article from the New York Times that I only provided excerpts for.

In the meantime, here are some more dots to connect.

Full article can be found here. http://truthout.org/docs_03/100403G.shtml


Here are some excerpts:

Schwarzenegger Sows Doubt Among State Environmentalists
By Miguel Bustillo And Marla Cone
The Los Angeles Times

Friday 03 October 2003

Recent remark, later clarified by aides, about the possibility of scrapping Cal/EPA only bolsters skepticism.

When Arnold Schwarzenegger suggested this week that he would consider eliminating the California Environmental Protection Agency to cut government waste, he cemented what has emerged as a near-universal distrust of his gubernatorial candidacy among conservationists.

Schwarzenegger has made a concerted play for the environmental vote, tapping his wife's cousin, prominent conservation attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to help fashion his platform. His campaign pronouncements more closely match the environmental views of the man he wants to replace in Tuesday's recall election, Democrat Gray Davis, than those of his fellow Republican, President Bush.

Yet he has failed to sway a single major environmental organization to his side, and most conservationists continue to view the actor, famous for driving a gas-guzzling Hummer, with deep skepticism.

At the same time Schwarzenegger has pledged to strengthen environmental protections, he has also promised to reduce regulations on businesses and streamline the state bureaucracy to better mirror the federal government.

Many conservationists, who are waging war against the environmental policies of the Bush administration, see those objectives as contradictory. They fear that if Schwarzenegger is elected, he will modify the state's trend-setting environmental policies, the toughest in the nation on problems such as air pollution.

The remark in question was made Monday in the Fresno suburb of Clovis. A farmer asked Schwarzenegger why the state needed Cal/EPA when the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency already regulates many of the same things.

"What you just talked about is the waste ?- overlapping agencies. They cost a fortune," Schwarzenegger said. "We have to strip that down and get rid of some of those agencies."


Schwarzenegger's aides quickly sought to clarify the remark. They stated a day later that the candidate strongly supported Cal/EPA, which was founded by his campaign co-chairman, former Republican Gov. Pete Wilson, but wanted to cut functions that repeated things other agencies already did.

Despite the explanation, environmental groups expressed alarm ?- and spoke out at events organized by the Davis campaign. They said Schwarzenegger clearly did not understand the role of Cal/EPA, an umbrella agency formed in part to coordinate the work of existing state agencies regulating air, water and waste. They also noted that many of the state environmental agencies that industry groups deride as duplicative are more aggressive than their federal counterparts.

Over the last few decades, California has adopted some of the world's most stringent environmental regulations, particularly for air pollution. From catalytic converters in the 1960s to battery-powered cars and natural-gas buses in the 1990s, the state has driven the development of new pollution-fighting technology through its regulations.

California has led the way in part because its problems have been more acute than those of other parts of the country. Smog in the Los Angeles Basin is more often than not worse than in any other metropolitan area.

The federal Clean Air Act gives states the primary responsibility for cleaning up air pollution, and it specifically gives California, which had laws that preceded the act, the right to adopt its own stringent clean-air rules and auto emission standards. The state took advantage of that position last year, when Davis signed a landmark law that seeks to curb tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases, which contribute to global warming, despite opposition from Washington.

What may seem like overlapping regulations and agencies is actually California "stepping in to fill the void" of the federal government, said Gail Ruderman Feuer, an attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council, an environmental group that has not taken a position on the recall or any of the candidates. "It's precisely the overlap that allows the California agencies to adopt stronger rules to protect our communities. It is not a wasteful act but is necessary to protect California," Feuer said. "We have some of the most polluted cities in the country and we need unique solutions to address those problems."
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 10:09 pm
Butrflynet wrote:

What I wonder is whether or not the 11th hour surge of dirt is coming from the conservative wing of the Right in an effort to dissuade people from voting for Arnold and switch to McClintock.

Butrflynet<

Good analysis here. Right-wing conservatives are known for their smear campaigns.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2003 06:05 pm
How come Arnold seems to benefit from some teflon layer, that protects him against all too strict a scrutiny over ever new accusations and barely-remarked flip-flops? One answer, the NYT suggests, is his campaign's welding of the worlds of entertainment and politics, like no campaign did before. Different standards are simply applied to an actor than to a doctor or politician - plus, by purposefully keeping a "circus" element in his campaign, the Schwarzenegger promoters also ensure that the rules of "serious politics" aren't as stringently applied.

But the article points out another thing as well. Schwarzenegger has succeeded in making himself the anti-Davis candidate incarnate, not primarily through attacking him, but through cultivating the assumption that he's the best - or only - shot people have to get him out. And that is motivating whole swathes of the previously disaffected:

Quote:
[M]any [voters] are so bent on removing Mr. Davis from office that they have become vested in Mr. Schwarzenegger's success. A Field Poll released on Friday indicated that 60 percent of likely voters who intended to vote "yes" on the recall said they would also vote for Mr. Schwarzenegger. [..]

"If you look at the polls, it is clear people have settled on Arnold Schwarzenegger as the viable one," Mr. Steinberg said. "Above all, they want to get rid of Davis, and they see him as the strongest challenger." [..]

The poll, which showed Mr. Schwarzenegger with a 10 percentage point lead over Mr. Bustamante among likely voters, indicated that the recall had strong support among people who skipped the election last November or voted for someone other than Mr. Davis or Bill Simon Jr., his Republican opponent.

The Schwarzenegger camp reads the numbers as evidence that those voters who are disaffected from politics as usual see the recall as an opportunity for significant change, a point that even Davis supporters find difficult to dispute. [..]

One crucial unknown is who will show up on Tuesday. Several statewide polls have differed in the definition of likely voters, in large part because there is no precedent for such an election. The Schwarzenegger campaign takes heart in estimates that more than 270,000 new voters registered in September, with anecdotal evidence that many were motivated by the recall.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2003 06:27 pm
Exactly why I said in an earlier post that I think there will be some last minute manipulating going on, if it isn't already in progress.

Arnold has done the job that was asked of him. He got the majority of people thinking "republican". Now the Party wants him to step aside and let McClintok take it on home.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that all the previously known but ignored dirt is being recirculated in a calculated effort to force him to step.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2003 07:12 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
Arnold has done the job that was asked of him. He got the majority of people thinking "republican". Now the Party wants him to step aside and let McClintok take it on home.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that all the previously known but ignored dirt is being recirculated in a calculated effort to force him to step.


Really? That would be an extremely risky gamble to take, though, wouldnt it?

I mean - the Schwarzenegger voters would most likely scatter, in such a scenario - the non-voters, third-party voters he partly relies on are not the most likely to transfer their loyalties in orderly fashion merely because the Republican party tells them to ...

Some would go to various other candidates, some even to Bustamente. The same article above after all also notes that, in absolute numbers, more Schwarzenegger-voters call themselves middle-of-the-road or even liberal than conservative. Those can not be simply counted upon to switch to McClintock.

All in all one would need to be pretty cocksure to just gamble that, in such a scenario, enough more Schwarzenegger voters will switch to McC than to Bustamente to ensure that the former, not the latter, ends first. And this admin isn't really into just letting things happen like that and see whatll happen, is it?

Anyways, Schwarzenegger doesnt seem to be in the least fazed by the accusations, and the electoral damage they caused seems to be rather limited ... Alas.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2003 07:33 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
Exactly why I said in an earlier post that I think there will be some last minute manipulating going on, if it isn't already in progress.

Arnold has done the job that was asked of him. He got the majority of people thinking "republican". Now the Party wants him to step aside and let McClintok take it on home.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that all the previously known but ignored dirt is being recirculated in a calculated effort to force him to step.

Reminds me of the situation with Issa, who may haev been led to believe he was buying th governorship,and then had the rug pulled from under him. Then again, I'm sure many of the right wing fundys are quite uncomfortable with the thought of an Arab American governor named "Jesus."
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 12:29 am
http://www.kxtv10.com/storyfull.asp?id=5442

McClintock Calls on Schwarzenegger to Resign If Charges Prove True

State Senator Tom McClintock called on Arnold Schwarzenegger to withdraw from the race for governor if allegations of improper sexual advances prove to be true.

Asked by reporters what he would tell Schwarzenegger, McClintock said, "If those allegations are true, you should drop out of the race."

McClintock was careful not to condemn Schwarzenegger out of hand, but made his feelings on the issue clear. "If the allegations are true, and again coming as late as they are, I believe they need to be treated with great skepticism, that conduct is reprehensible," he said.

He went on to tell reporters that if the charges are proven, Schwarzenegger does not deserve to occupy the governor's office. "As the father of a 13-year-old daughter, I would have a great deal of trouble accepting that that kind of conduct has been elevated to the highest office in the state," he said.

The potential scandal hovering over Schwarzenegger could provide an unexpected boost for McClintock's campaign. The conservative state senator is current lagging well behind both Schwarzenegger and Democrat Cruz Bustamante in the polls.




Story last updated Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 12:29 AM
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 12:45 am
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/october/1002_mcclintock.shtml

Excerpts:

Religious Conservatives Stand Behind McClintock in Recall Race
By Jimmy Moore
Talon News
October 2, 2003

Editor's Note: Corrected comments by Mike Spence to put in proper context.

SACRAMENTO (Talon News) -- Religious conservative groups in California have begun a media campaign to help Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock get elected.

Rev. Lou Sheldon, who serves as president of TVC, says the recall was unnecessary if Schwarzenegger is elected because he is the same as Davis.

"The ultimate message is there's no difference between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gray Davis, so what's the purpose of the recall?" said the Rev. Lou Sheldon, head of the TVC's political action committee. "It reminds them to make a better choice."

Another conservative pro-family political action committee called Save California has paid for a radio advertising campaign designed to show Schwarzenegger and Bustamante do not hold favorable positions on issues regarding the family.

Randy Thomasson, spokesman for Save California, claims that Schwarzenegger would ruin the strides that the Republican Party has made to strengthen the family in the past decade.

"Arnold is for homosexual adoptions, gay 'marriage' by another name, and taxpayer-funded abortions through all nine months of pregnancy," remarked Thomasson. "The Terminator is terminating family values and is spoiling the pro-family image of the Republican Party."

In an intriguing role reversal, Save California is asking Schwarzenegger to get out of the recall election to make room for the more conservative, family-oriented McClintock. Sen. McClintock has been urged by some California Republicans to drop out of the race to make room for Schwarzenegger.

A new poll of conservative Republicans finds that close to two-thirds of McClintock's supporters are leaning towards voting "no" on the recall to prevent Schwarzenegger from being elected governor.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 06:55 am
Thats all good news in my book. Let the conservatives attack Schwarzenegger from the right - and let them especially pick up on this issue, so that the Schwarzeneggero's can no longer brush it aside as merely being Gray Davis playing more of his dirty tricks. Huzzah.

I'd bet a fine sum that Schwarzenegger will not step out; and even should he step out I think its highly unlikely that a plurality of the liberal, multi-ethnic Californian voters will vote for McClintock instead. Schwarzenegger is pulling a lot of Independents and Democrats - especially the latter wont suddenly veer to the far right.

Most likely, moreover, many of them would just stay home, as "Schwarzenegger" and "recall" have come to be equated: no Arnold, no drive to go to the recall. If Arnold should step out - which I dont think he will - even Davis might thus still have a chance.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 01:33 pm
nimh, I'm seeing a different picture from my vantage point in Silicon Valley. No matter what the bruhaha about Ahnold's sexual indescretions, he's gonna win, because of the young voters. I'm voting "no" on the recall, even though I want Davis out, but voting for Camejo (my wife's choice) who doesn't have a prayer of winning.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 05:02 pm
MOVIE PRODUCER WARNS ARNOLD NOT QUALIFIED FOR OFFICE
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON OCT 06, 2003 17:14:02 ET XXXXX
ARNOLD'S MOVIE PRODUCER WARNS HOLLYWOOD: SCHWARZENEGGER 'NO WAY QUALIFIED' FOR OFFICE

The executive producer of Arnold Schwarzenegger's recent film COLLATERAL DAMAGE is warning colleagues in a purported email: "Please be sure to vote NO on the recall. I know Arnold personally. He is in no way qualified to govern anybody or anything."

An email claimed to be written by producer Hawk Koch began circulating in top studio circles on Monday, THE DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

"Friends, Please be sure to vote on Tuesday. Please be sure to vote NO on the recall. I know Arnold personally. He is in no way qualified to govern anybody or anything.

"I spent 6 months with him, he showed ZERO leadership qualities. Even less understanding of budgets...

"We must stop him and that means you must do whatever you can to be sure and get to your polling place. Also call or e-mail all your like minded or on the fence friends a get them out there. Thanks Hawk."

Koch, who has donated dollars to Democrats in the past, could not be reached after repeated requests for comment.

Developing...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 05:09 pm
Hmmm.... Wonder what exactly Hawk is qualified for?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 05:10 pm
I'm no Ahnold supporter, but these "unqualified" claims is bull ****.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 05:20 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
nimh, I'm seeing a different picture from my vantage point in Silicon Valley. No matter what the bruhaha about Ahnold's sexual indescretions, he's gonna win, because of the young voters.


Yeh, eh, thats what I was saying up a post or two - I agree (alas).
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 05:23 pm
TNR launches a newest far-fetched conspiracy theory: "Did Arnold Schwarzenegger plant the woman-groping rumors against himself?" See today's item on Easterblogg.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 05:52 pm
Arnold tried to erase his past by buying Pumping Iron rights
When confronted with his Hitler statements, Arnold claimed he didn't remember saying anything like that. But, in 1991, he remember enough to buy the rights to the evidence and the right to destroy it.
---BumbleBeeBoogie


OCTOBER 6--It's unlikely that anyone will ever know for sure what Arnold Schwarzenegger had to say about Adolf Hitler since the actor bought the rights to "Pumping Iron" and all the outtakes from the 1977 film--and the July 1991 purchase agreement stipulated that Schwarzenegger can destroy the footage if he chooses.

Below you'll find excerpts from the 57-page sale document. The $1.25 million agreement between Schwarzenegger and "Pumping Iron" director George Butler allowed the star to "destroy any and all portion thereof" of the film and 90 hours of additional footage as well as still photographs owned by Butler that Schwarzenegger considered "embarrassing" or which might "reflect negatively" on the actor's "professional or private life."

The purchase agreement and accompanying deal memorandum were secret until partners of Butler's learned of the sale to Schwarzenegger and filed a lawsuit claiming that he did not have the right to sell the material. After years of litigation, Schwarzenegger settled the case with a $400,000 payment to Butler's former business associates.

As with most defendants, Schwarzenegger was not pleased to be sued over the Butler deal. In fact, when a female employee of the plaintiffs's law firm served him with legal papers during a New York fundraiser, he responded, "You ****." The vulgarity was first reported by The New York Observer in a November 1993 story about the "Pumping Iron" litigation. In fact, the young woman even testified in detail about the incident during a subsequent court "traverse hearing" regarding a defense challenge to the sufficiency of the process service. (10 pages)

Fortunately, Arnold didn't buy the rights to that 1977 Oui interview.

The rights buying document:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/arnoldpump1.html
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2003 06:00 pm
Arnold's history of strong-arming the Hollywood press
REWIND: CJR 1991
Strong-arming the Hollywood Press
BY NEAL KOCH

This story originally ran in the January/February 1991 issue of CJR (Columbia Journalism Review.)

The 1991 January/February issue of CJR. Photo by George Butler / Visions.

When it comes to strong-arming the Hollywood press, some of the biggest muscle belongs to Arnold Schwarzenegger, who hasn't hesitated to use it, says author Wendy Leigh. And few journalists have been willing to cry foul.

Leigh claims that Schwarzenegger ?- rumored to harbor national political ambitions ?- has waged a heavy-handed campaign first to suppress her book, Arnold, An Unauthorized Biography, and then to sabotage its promotion.

Some journalists have found her reporting worthy of attention. Time made it part of a profile of Schwarzenegger that ran in the magazine's May 28 international edition. And accounts of the contretemps surrounding the alleged attempts to interfere with the book appeared in New York magazine and the Chicago Tribune last May and in Newsday last July.

But for the most part, the Hollywood publicity machine rolls on, and the puffy cover stories on Schwarzenegger, timed to coincide with the release of his latest movies, continue to appear. They rarely contain more than a dismissive mention of Leigh's book, let alone an independent analysis of its content.

James Willwerth, a Time correspondent for twenty-three years and the author of Time's profile of Schwarzenegger, says he's not a fan of Leigh's gossipy type of journalism. But, he adds, after checking out her research, using her thirty-four pages of source notes on the back of the book as a guide, he came away with a respect for her thoroughness. "It was very well reported", Willwerth said, "My nose told me that the book was on target."

In Arnold, Leigh persuasively portrays Schwarzenegger as a crude womanizer ?- perhaps a misogynist ?- of limited morals who has been given to expressions of racism, anti-Semitism, and admiration for Hitler's ability to lead.

Citing the Berlin Document Center as a source of documents which have further been authenticated by the World Jewish Congress, Leigh reports that Schwarzenegger's father, Gustav, police chief of the Austrian village of Thal, applied for membership in the Nazi party in 1938 and was subsequently accepted. And she reminds readers of Arnold's public support of Kurt Waldheim, even after revelations of the Austrian president's Nazi past.

Leigh says that Gustav was an alcoholic who raised his two sons, Arnold and Meinhard, as bullies who delighted in publicly humiliating friends as well as rivals. She notes further that Schwarzenegger owes much of his success in bodybuilding contests to an expertly honed aptitude for undermining his opponents psychologically, as well as to the use, according to fellow bodybuilders she interviewed, of anabolic steroids for many years.

Leigh says that as she began researching her book here and overseas she received "strange" late-night phone calls, "whispering that I'd better be careful." Leigh portrays Schwarzenegger as a calculating, intense salesman who at an early age set out to create an image that would propel him to wealth and international celebrity. Bodybuilding was just the first step. National political ambitions followed, with rumors that he might be angling for a run at the U.S. Senate, something that Schwarzenegger has denied. A staunch conservative Republican, he married into the Kennedy clan and was appointed chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports by George Bush, for whom he campaigned in 1988. Writes Leigh, "Arnold embraced …the ruthlessness and the dark side of the American dream."

Schwarzenegger's publicist, Charlotte Parker, calls the book inaccurate, but declined requests from CJR for specifics and cut the interview short. Schwarzenegger himself, the publicist said, was unavailable for comment.

Leigh says that as she began researching her book here and overseas she received "strange" late-night phone calls, "whispering that I'd better be careful." She says she went into hiding to write the book, sequestering documents in a bank vault and shredding papers daily.

Her publisher, Contemporary Books in Chicago, says it received phone calls from Schwarzenegger associates, already known to the publisher, offering money and a different book, to be co-authored by Schwarzenegger, if Contemporary would drop Leigh's book. Someone claiming to be connected with the publishing firm called its printing plant eight times with questions about the book, the company says. Before Arnold, Contemporary says, it hadn't had a break-in in ten years. Then it had four in one month.

Contemporary says that it moved the production schedule up three weeks, shifted the printing to a hidden location, installed security guards, and began using secret passwords and a fake title.

Leigh says that when she hit the promotional circuit, television show bookings and filmed appearances were mysteriously canceled at the last minute ?- in one case, even as TV promos ran ?- as were planned newspaper features for which she had already been interviewed. In at least one case Schwarzenegger himself turned up on the show soon after. Bruce Lynn, Leigh's former personal publicist, says that he believes that Charlotte Parker threatened producers of TV shows that they wouldn't get Schwarzenegger again if they put Leigh on the air. "People told me that," says Lynn. Lynn adds that a booker for one national program ?- which he declines to name, he says, because he still does business there ?- told him, "No way. We're doing Arnold for the movie [Total Recall], and we don't want to upset him."

"All publicists make deals," says Lynn, "but this is the first time I've ever been censored."

Time's Willwerth says the he wasn't threatened, but did receive "urgent, demanding pleas" from Parker to avoid mentioning the book. But he says that while she called it unfair, she never claimed it was inaccurate.

Parker categorically denies any efforts by Schwarzenegger or any of his associates to inhibit either the book's publication or promotional efforts on its behalf.

Schwarzenegger is pursuing a libel suit against Leigh in Britain over information she supplied about him to Rupert Murdoch's News of the World. Although the paper settled last spring by giving Schwarzenegger £30,000 and a published apology, Leigh's attorney says she will not settle because the information she gave was accurate. The attorney, who accuses the tabloid of having "embellished" her information and calls the suit against Leigh an attempt at harassment, points out that Schwarzenegger has attempted no court action in this country, where it is more difficult to successfully sue for libel.

http://cjr.org/issues/2003/5/rewind-koch.asp
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John Webb
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2003 08:44 am
Arnold must win today. After all, if he doesn't get enough votes, he can always appeal to the Republican majority in the Supreme Court. Twisted Evil Now why does that sound so familiar? Rolling Eyes
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2003 10:27 am
I get the feeling that the results of this election may not be apparent by the dawn's early light tomorrow. If you catch my drift...
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