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SHOULD SEN. LARRY CRAIG RESIGN?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 12:06 am
If leftist Representative Barney Frank (homosexual Democrat of Massachusetts)
is arrested, in exactly the same circumstances,
I expect that Advocate and other leftists on this forum
will come to his DEFENSE, because of Barney' s liberal hostility against personal freedom
in matters of economic or political significance.


David
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 08:55 am
Craig's Alleged Sex Partners Approached Paper
Craig Calls Idaho Paper 'Classless' After New X-Rated Story
If the newspaper has fabricated this story about Sen. Craig, as he would have us believe, then why hasn't he filed a libel suit against the paper as well as against the gay men who have come forward with their allegations?

Non Sequitur Cartoonist Wiley Miller

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Idaho Reporter: Craig's Alleged Sex Partners Approached Paper
By Joe Strupp
Published: December 03, 2007 5:20 PM ET

The reporter who broke the story Sunday that five more men had come forward to claim sexual encounters with Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) says the claims of such trysts began within days of his previous story alleging the embattled senator's secret gay lifestyle.

Even so, reporter Dan Popkey of the Idaho Statesman in Boise told E&P today, the paper had no interest in seeking other examples of Craig's gay lifestyle, especially after he announced on Sept. 30 he was stepping down. "If he was out of office, it wasn't really relevant," Popkey said. "But then he decided to stay."

Although he was glad for the chance to back-up his previous story with more proof of Craig's actions, Popkey admitted, "I don't like writing about anal sex for people who don't want to read about it over their corn flakes."

During the week of Aug. 27, after the bombshell broke, "I had at least two of the calls and they were from two men [whose stories] we eventually published [on Sunday]," said Popkey, a reporter/columnist for The Idaho Statesman in Boise. "We started getting calls after the first story ran and his denials and we checked them out."

That first story, on Aug. 28, was Popkey's account of Craig's alleged secret gay lifestyle and claims from three unidentified men of gay encounters with the senator, including one in a Washington, D.C., train station restroom. The story was published a day after revelations that Craig had pleaded guilty to charges stemming from his alleged attempt to have a sexual encounter in a Minneapolis airport men's room in June.

Popkey had begun investigating Craig's secret relationships in early 2007 after claims were made in late 2006 on a Web site that Craig had been living a secret lifestyle of sex with other men. The Statesman drew both support and criticism after it ran his August story, which Editor Vickie Gowler said at the time was only published once word of the guilty plea was reported.

But, unlike with the August story, Popkey contends that this time he did not go looking for more men claiming sex with Craig. In addition to the two men who contacted him within days of the first story, Popkey says a third eventually approached the paper with a gay sex story involving Craig and the friend of a fourth also got in touch with Popkey about an incident.

Popkey only contacted one of the five on his own, David Phillips, whose story was previously reported on Wonkette.com. T

After Craig said in October that he had changed his mind and would remain in office, Popkey believed the other incidents became more newsworthy: "When he reversed himself, the issue became the senator's integrity and honesty."

Popkey said at least two of the five men were reluctant to be identified until Craig changed his mind about resigning: "That is when they agreed to be identified."

Although the majority of the story is based only on the five men's claims against Craig's denial, Popkey believes it was worth reporting and was properly reviewed. "There was a lot of [newsroom] discussion and I did a lot of verification," he says. "I did background checks on all of the five sources, it took a long time for the one unnamed source to be willing to do this."

Editor Vickie Gowler did not return calls seeking comment Monday.

Popkey stressed that the five new accounts were from men who did not know each other, but included enough similarities in the sexual acts to make them seem believable. "We checked out the stories," he said, adding that he even confirmed that Craig owned a Washington, D.C., home where one of the men claimed an encounter occurred.

The paper did not receive nearly the same volume of reaction on Sunday as it had for the August story, Popkey says, confirming, "e-mails and telephone calls haven't been as intense" -- this despite the fact that the story graphically described various sex acts. The Sunday story had received 147 online comments as of Monday afternoon.

Popkey said the paper's decision to post several audio interviews with the sources online "gives the listener the chance to decide."

Asked if the paper would seek more accounts of sexual encounters with Craig, Popkey said, "I don't know; the bar is set a little higher now. If someone has photos or voice mail or a love letter, that is different. After eight of them, I don't know what else you need."
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 09:46 am
Dave, your background as a proud HUAC spy tells me that you are not for personal liberty. You would have served as a good informer, and would have thrived, in Nazi Germany.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 11:13 am
ETHICS -- EMBATTLED LARRY CRAIG ESCAPES TO BALI TO STALL GLOBAL WARMING TREATY: Currently the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation, facing continued allegations of being gay, and stripped of his leadership positions on the Veterans Affairs and Appropriations Committees, Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) is traveling to Bali this week for the U.N.-led climate change conference as the "Republican representative from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee" (EPW), led by chief global warming denier Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK). Prior to his travels, Craig -- who has long denied man-made climate change -- attacked EPW Chairwoman Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) for creating "all-pain, no-gain" climate change legislation that would call for caps on greenhouse gas emissions. It "demonstrates nothing more than her intent to revert the United States to a developing country," he asserted. Boxer is also the Chairwoman of the Senate Ethics Committee, which is investigating "allegations of sexual misconduct" by Craig. Isolated from his own party and now "a wisp of his former self in the Senate," Craig will have to rely on the support of fringe, discredited global warming deniers.

--americanprogressaction.org
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 12:12 pm
It appears the capacity for hypocrisy is limitless for Craig and his ilk.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 12:15 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
If leftist Representative Barney Frank (homosexual Democrat of Massachusetts)
is arrested, in exactly the same circumstances,
I expect that Advocate and other leftists on this forum
will come to his DEFENSE, because of Barney' s liberal hostility against personal freedom
in matters of economic or political significance.


David


Great thought process there, Om. Nothing like this could happen to Frank since he is out. And as pointed out by many "leftists" here Craig's crime has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to serve in Congress. He should run in 2008.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 12:19 pm
Wait a minute, how are global warming deniers in any way marginalized? It seems to me the opposite it true - those who believe in this false science are getting their due. How the hell can you make a truly scientific prounouncement about something that is millions of years in the making with less than 200 years of data?

I have some carbon offset credits that I'm willing to sell you if you really believe in global warming. I promise, cross my heart, hope to die, that they aren't bogus counterfeits.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 12:33 pm
cjh, Try billions of years old.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 12:58 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
cjh, Try billions of years old.


Cenozoic period started approximately 65 million years ago and is ongoing.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 01:02 pm
Quote:
How the hell can you make a truly scientific prounouncement about something that is millions of years in the making with less than 200 years of data?


Naturally, they do have ways of obtaining some data from earlier time periods.

Cycloptichorn
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 01:03 pm
Ice core samples from Antarctica have been very revealing.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 01:07 pm
Setanta wrote:
Ice core samples from Antarctica have been very revealing.


Yes they have. The show periods of warming as well as cooling.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 01:28 pm
They (the word you wanted was They, not The) provide thousands of years of data, not two hundred years. These core samples also provide data on the amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases ambient in the atmosphere, allowing useful comparisons to warming periods to determine whether or not such warming periods were the product of the levels of greenhouse gases in the air.

Of course, that's probably the point at which you get bored and lose any further interest in discussing the subject.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 01:29 pm
It must really suck to be you.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 03:44 pm
I'm fine with it . . . and, of course, don't give a rat's ass what you think of it.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 05:23 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
If leftist Representative Barney Frank (homosexual Democrat of Massachusetts)
is arrested, in exactly the same circumstances,
I expect that Advocate and other leftists on this forum
will come to his DEFENSE, because of Barney' s liberal hostility against personal freedom
in matters of economic or political significance.


David


Great thought process there, Om. Nothing like this could happen to Frank since he is out.

THAT controls his activities in public bathrooms ?

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 08:08 pm
Advocate wrote:
Dave, your background as a proud HUAC spy tells me that you are not for personal liberty.
You would have served as a good informer, and would have thrived, in Nazi Germany.

Destroying commies is fighting for personal freedom.
The nazis were hostile to personal freedom, thus I held them in abhorence;
( however, I will concede my ardent approval of how the nazis handled the commies ).

Sincerely,
David
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 08:15 pm
david wrote:
however, I will concede my ardent approval of how the nazis handled the commies
fascinating
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 08:19 pm
Rolling Eyes Dave, Dave, Dave... Rolling Eyes
You need a bigger shovel... Rolling Eyes
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 08:23 pm
to bury the commies

( Khrushchev was rong )
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