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SHOULD SEN. LARRY CRAIG RESIGN?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 09:46 pm
In other words, our republic is governed by a representative democracy.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:10 pm
Yes he should resign, but he is an unfortunately perfect example of the pathological nature of people in power.

He cannot be an effective representative of his state.

He cannot be a postively contributing member of his Party.

He gives homosexuals a bad name.

He is an entirely self-absorbed individual, who puts his sense of self-importance before the interests of his country, his state, his party, and more importantly his family.

He is despicable.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:54 pm
harsh
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 12:08 am
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Yes he should resign, but he is an unfortunately perfect example of the pathological nature of people in power.

He cannot be an effective representative of his state.

He cannot be a postively contributing member of his Party.

He gives homosexuals a bad name.

He is an entirely self-absorbed individual, who puts his sense of self-importance before the interests of his country, his state, his party, and more importantly his family.

He is despicable.


Convergence.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 12:43 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
harsh


Yes, but accurate.

He gains no favor with me because he is a Republican and supports certain conservative viewpoints.

The sooner he leaves the political stage, the better for everyone --- including himself.

If this blows over (no pun intended) I'm afraid my jaded nature will have taken on an even darker green hue.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 01:49 am
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
harsh


Yes, but accurate.

He gains no favor with me because he is a Republican
and supports certain conservative viewpoints.

Decency does not permit me
to forget my gratitude for his services to personal freedom, against authoritarianism.


If he suffers from homosexuality,
it is a disorder that I am willing to forgive,
in vu of his valuable services to individualism and freedom;
( America is better off with a degenerate who votes for freedom,
than a healthy Senator who votes for authoritarianism n collectivism ).



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The sooner he leaves the political stage, the better for everyone --- including himself.

How is it better for HIM ?




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If this blows over (no pun intended)
I'm afraid my jaded nature will have taken on an even darker green hue.

Logically, he shud seek to serve his own interests,
his own well-being and contentment, rather than yours.
I suspect that he knows that.

David
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 02:04 am
Homosexuality is not a disorder although repressing your homosexuality can lead to disorders.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 10:27 pm
Its all a question of whose ox is gored.

If a collectivist-authoritarian legislator had been arrested for the same thing,
leftists on these fora wud be screaming of discrimination and persecution of homosexuals.

All I care about is the politicians leaving my liberty alone.

David
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 10:44 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
harsh


Yes, but accurate.

He gains no favor with me because he is a Republican
and supports certain conservative viewpoints.

Decency does not permit me
to forget my gratitude for his services to personal freedom, against authoritarianism.


If he suffers from homosexuality,
it is a disorder that I am willing to forgive,
in vu of his valuable services to individualism and freedom;
( America is better off with a degenerate who votes for freedom,
than a healthy Senator who votes for authoritarianism n collectivism ).



Quote:
The sooner he leaves the political stage, the better for everyone --- including himself.

How is it better for HIM ?




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If this blows over (no pun intended)
I'm afraid my jaded nature will have taken on an even darker green hue.

Logically, he shud seek to serve his own interests,
his own well-being and contentment, rather than yours.
I suspect that he knows that.

David


In what way is he a hero of American Freedom?

I couldn't care less whether he is a homosexual.

If he is, however, his public positions on homosexuality (which have been in the negative) are relevant as respects his character.

His leaving the public stage is better for him if he has a sense of himself that extends beyond the stark confines of his ego.

If the psychic well being of his family means anything to him, than he is better of giving up this pathetic ghost.

I'm all for the advancement of self-interest, but when one attempts to gain power by promising that he or she will subjugate his or her self-interest to the interests of the electorate, then I expect that person to do so.

If they cannot, then they need to leave their position of representation.

Should someone seek the power that flows from being the representative of the electorate, they should sacrifice their personal interests as the price for power. To this extent, my (as the Common Man) interests are exceedingly more important that his own.

These are the basic terms of the social contract between the governors and the governed in a free society.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 04:24 am
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
harsh


Yes, but accurate.

He gains no favor with me because he is a Republican
and supports certain conservative viewpoints.

Decency does not permit me
to forget my gratitude for his services to personal freedom, against authoritarianism.


If he suffers from homosexuality,
it is a disorder that I am willing to forgive,
in vu of his valuable services to individualism and freedom;
( America is better off with a degenerate who votes for freedom,
than a healthy Senator who votes for authoritarianism n collectivism ).



Quote:
The sooner he leaves the political stage, the better for everyone --- including himself.

How is it better for HIM ?




Quote:
If this blows over (no pun intended)
I'm afraid my jaded nature will have taken on an even darker green hue.

Logically, he shud seek to serve his own interests,
his own well-being and contentment, rather than yours.
I suspect that he knows that.

David


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In what way is he a hero of American Freedom?

His voting record, for the most part,
favors personal freedom and disfavors socialism




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I couldn't care less whether he is a homosexual.

If he is, however, his public positions on homosexuality
(which have been in the negative) are relevant as respects his character.

Possibly; I don 't know what thay are.
I have little interest in homosexual matters.


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His leaving the public stage is better for him if he has a sense of himself
that extends beyond the stark confines of his ego.

If the psychic well being of his family means anything to him,
than he is better of giving up this pathetic ghost.

I have no information qua their sentiments.




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I'm all for the advancement of self-interest,

Logically, that is the first imperative.




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but when one attempts to gain power by promising that he or she will subjugate
his or her self-interest to the interests of the electorate,
then I expect that person to do so.

People shud keep their promises.
Did he promise that ?


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If they cannot, then they need to leave their position of representation.

People shud keep their promises.




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Should someone seek the power that flows from being the representative of the electorate,
they should sacrifice their personal interests as the price for power.

I doubt that.
Its unnatural.


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To this extent, my (as the Common Man) interests are exceedingly more important that his own.

I deny that.





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These are the basic terms of the social
contract between the governors and the governed in a free society.

Can u prove that ?

It seems to me that a free society
is one in which government leaves the individual essentially alone,
with his rights undisturbed.


David
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 07:16 am
omsig wrote
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To this extent, my (as the Common Man) interests


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If he suffers from homosexuality,
it is a disorder that I am willing to forgive,


Common Man? Omsig? Even you don't believe that. Particularly you don't believe that, which would constitute a rare agreement between us.

One imagines walking slowly past various glassed-in displays in an American museum...Lincoln in the dim gaslight of Coopers Union, crowd mesmerized...Martin Luther King leading bloodied marchers in Alabama...Louis Armstrong rushing onto the stage grinning and wiping his brow with a white hankey after smoking some good dope in the alley out back...Arthur Miller bent over his typewriter punching out Death of a Salesman with a full ashtray nearbye...an old Dodge tilted up on a jack in a driveway in Ohio, greasy overalls stick out from underneath...and then Omsig out back of his rusting mobile home, wide-eyed and aiming a gun at the inartful cardboard cutouts he has crookedly lined up against teetering old stoves and fridges, and the cutouts are labelled "COMMIE", "FAGGOT", "ATHIEST", "MEXICAN", "FLAG-BURNING SMELLY HIPPY", "ACLU", "MOTHER".
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 09:15 am
blatham wrote:
omsig wrote
Quote:
To this extent, my (as the Common Man) interests


Quote:
If he suffers from homosexuality,
it is a disorder that I am willing to forgive,


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Common Man? Omsig? Even you don't believe that.
Particularly you don't believe that,
which would constitute a rare agreement between us.

Right.
I seldom use that language,
and I did not in this forum.
I commented upon, and denied,
an utterance of Find Abuzz. (q.v.)
U falsely attributed that utterance to me.





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One imagines walking slowly past various glassed-in displays in an American museum...Lincoln in the dim gaslight of Coopers Union, crowd mesmerized...Martin Luther King leading bloodied marchers in Alabama...Louis Armstrong rushing onto the stage grinning and wiping his brow with a white hankey after smoking some good dope in the alley out back...Arthur Miller bent over his typewriter punching out Death of a Salesman with a full ashtray nearbye...an old Dodge tilted up on a jack in a driveway in Ohio, greasy overalls stick out from underneath...and then

Omsig out back of his rusting mobile home,
wide-eyed and aiming a gun at the inartful cardboard cutouts
he has crookedly lined up against teetering old stoves and fridges,
and the cutouts are labelled "COMMIE", "FAGGOT", "ATHIEST", "MEXICAN",
"FLAG-BURNING SMELLY HIPPY", "ACLU", "MOTHER"
.

U misjudge me.
I own some cars, but
I don 't have a mobile home.
I don 't live in a junk yard.
I don 't hate homosexuals.
I don 't care about atheists; ( none of my business ).
I don 't hate Mexicans ( tho I have ill will toward illegal aliens ).
I don 't hate hippies, as long as thay cause no trouble.
I don 't hate the ACLU, tho I don 't believe its doing its job.

I believe that Congress shud designate Official Flag Etiquette
to encourage dissenters to burn the Flag, as an expression of Free Speech,
( just to rile them n frustrate them ).
I had a superb mental rapport and harmony with my mother.

U have me all rong.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 09:23 am
LOL...I'm sure I do. Well, likely I have lots wrong. I live in a trailer and I have a cardboard cutout there in the back. Being a pacifist type, I throw spitballs at it. And the label on it is "Omsig". My mom and I got on well too.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 8 Dec, 2007 12:10 pm
OK; don 't get your fingers wet.
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