Mom and Chatty Toddler Removed From Flight

She may have been having a bad day,
she may have felt she was unable to give her safety presentation effectively,
she may have heard the mother say something that crosses the line of acceptance on an aircraft,
she may not like rambunctious boys,
she may not like mouthy mothers,
??? we have no idea what her thoughts were because we haven't heard them.

I am sorry, as a flight attendend you're a step above a waitress

JPB wrote:

She may have been having a bad day,
she may have felt she was unable to give her safety presentation effectively,
she may have heard the mother say something that crosses the line of acceptance on an aircraft,
she may not like rambunctious boys,
she may not like mouthy mothers,
??? we have no idea what her thoughts were because we haven't heard them.

I am sorry, as a flight attendend you're a step above a waitress and
your foremost concern should be the welfare of all passengers, and not
being a cowardy little bitch who sees this a payback to a mother with child
who just sat through a 11 hour delay caused by the airlines.

That's of course my opinion and not a fact (yet)

oe, have you read the entire thread?

All of this has been discussed.

1)It is standard procedure to have federal marshals escort evicted passengers off from airplanes.

2)Listening to the safety instructions is optional. Preventing others from listening to them is not.

3)I'm fairly sure kicky was being a smart-ass.

kickycan wrote:

old europe wrote:

So let's assume the kid was acting like on the plane. Or that he was acting at least as fussy as that on the plane. Would that alone have been a sufficient reason to kick mother and child off the plane?

Of course! Well, maybe not the mother, but the least they could do is strap the kid to the wing or something.

Pffft. Nonsense.

old europe wrote:

kickycan wrote:

old europe wrote:

So let's assume the kid was acting like on the plane. Or that he was acting at least as fussy as that on the plane. Would that alone have been a sufficient reason to kick mother and child off the plane?

Of course! Well, maybe not the mother, but the least they could do is strap the kid to the wing or something.

Pffft. Nonsense.

I agree completely.

JPB wrote:

oe, have you read the entire thread?

Yes, I have. Have been following it the whole time, but decided to say something now as the level of the kid's fussiness became the only focus of this thread. I mean, if we all agree that that's not what got them kicked off the plane - then why discuss it at all?

JPB wrote:

2)Listening to the safety instructions is optional. Preventing others from listening to them is not.

So fiddling with my extra large newspaper (because I happen to read, say, the Süddeutsche Zeitung, which is really extraordinarily large, compared to, say, the Wall Street Journal, and clearly not built for the limited space in an air plane) and thereby preventing you from following the safety instructions in their entirety can get me kicked off the plane? Bloody hell.

Airlines prefer to hire poised, tactful, and resourceful people who can interact comfortably with strangers and remain calm under duress. Applicants usually must be at least 18 to 21 years old, although some carriers may have higher minimum-age requirements.

Trainees learn emergency procedures such as evacuating an airplane, operating emergency systems and equipment, administering first aid, and surviving in the water. In addition, trainees are taught how to deal with disruptive passengers and with hijacking and terrorist situations.

Before the plane takes off, flight attendants instruct all passengers in the use of emergency equipment and check to see that seatbelts are fastened, seat backs are in upright positions, and all carry-on items are properly stowed. In the air, helping passengers in the event of an emergency is the most important responsibility of a flight attendant. Safety-related actions may range from reassuring passengers during rough weather to directing passengers who must evacuate a plane following an emergency landing. Flight attendants also answer questions about the flight; distribute reading material, pillows, and blankets; and help small children, elderly or disabled persons, and any others needing assistance. They may administer first aid to passengers who become ill. Flight attendants generally serve beverages and other refreshments and, on many flights, heat and distribute precooked meals or snacks. Prior to landing, flight attendants take inventory of headsets, alcoholic beverages, and moneys collected. They also report any medical problems passengers may have had, the condition of cabin equipment, and lost and found articles.

I am sorry, as a flight attendend you're a step above a waitress

Personally, I think this whole discussion could most easily be avoided if kids were transported in cages in the cargo section of the plane, similarly to how we now transport cats and dogs. Think of all the trouble that would spare us! No more crying marathons at three in the morning. No more chain reactions where one crying toddler makes another one grumpy and cry too. No more kicking into the back of my seat. Heaven!

Of course, just like Joe, I am not a parent -- but deep inside your mushy parent hearts, you all know I'm right. Good night!

it seems to be more about the parent/parents' interaction with the attendant than anything to do directly with the child

The implication isn't that only parents understand, it's that if you clearly don't understand then you probably don't have small children or don't spend a lot of time with them. That's really it.