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The media is misreporting this. This misogynist man deserves to go to jail.

 
 
Tue 21 Jul, 2015 06:19 am
Christie Blatchford: Ruling in Twitter harassment trial could have enormous fallout for free speech

What’s believed to be the first case in Canada of alleged criminal harassment-via-Twitter is just a judge’s decision away from being over.

After hearing closing submissions Tuesday from Chris Murphy, who represents 54-year-old Gregory Alan Elliott, Ontario Court Judge Brent Knazan is expected to rule on Oct. 6.

In the balance rides enormous potential fallout for free speech online.

Elliott is charged with criminally harassing two Toronto female political activists, Steph Guthrie and Heather Reilly, in 2012.

Allegations involving a third woman were dropped.

The graphic artist and father of four lost his job shortly after his arrest, which was well-publicized online, and if convicted, could go to jail for six months.

These are astonishing repercussions given that it’s not alleged he ever threatened either woman (or any other, according to the testimony of the Toronto Police officer, Detective Jeff Bangild, who was in charge) or that he ever sexually harassed them.

Indeed, Elliott’s chief sin appears to have been that he dared to disagree with the two young feminists and political activists.

He and Guthrie, for instance, initially fell out over his refusal to endorse her plan to “sic the Internet” upon a young man in Northern Ontario who had invented a violent video game, where users could punch an image of a feminist video blogger named Anita Sarkeesian until the screen turned red.

Guthrie Tweeted at the time that she wanted the inventor’s “hatred on the Internet to impact his real-life experience” and Tweeted to prospective employers to warn them off the young man and even sent the local newspaper in his town a link to the story about the game.

Elliott disagreed with the tactic and Tweeted he thought the shaming “was every bit as vicious as the face-punch game”.

Until then, the two were collegial online, with Elliott offering to produce a free poster for Guthrie’s witopoli (Women in Toronto Politics) group.

As serious as the ramifications of a conviction could be for Elliott, so could they be dire for free speech online, Murphy suggested in his final arguments.

He said the idea that all it takes to end up charged with criminal harassment is vigorous participation in online debate with those who will not brook dissent “will have a chilling effect on people’s ability to communicate, and not just on Twitter”.

In fact, Murphy said that contrary to what Guthrie and Reilly testified to at trial, they weren’t afraid of his client — as suggested by both their spirited demeanour in the witness box and their deliberate online campaign to call Elliott out as a troll.

Rather, Murphy said, they hated Elliott and were determined to silence him — not just by “blocking” his Tweets to them, but by demanding he cease even referring to them even in making comment about heated political issues.

To all this, Guthrie pointed out once in cross-examination that feelings of fear, like all feelings, “develop over time”, and snapped that she was sorry she wasn’t “a perfect victim” who behaved like a conventional victim.

The criminal harassment charge is rooted in the alleged victim’s perception of the offending conduct.

The statute says if that conduct caused the alleged victims “reasonably, in all the circumstances, to fear for their safety”, that’s good enough.

Yet Guthrie and Reilly didn’t behave as though they were remotely frightened or intimidated: They convened a meeting of friends to discuss how Elliott should be publicly shamed; they bombarded their followers with furious tweets and retweets about him (including a grotesque suggestion from someone pretending she was a 13-year-old that he was a pedophile); they could and did dish it out.

“They were not vulnerable,” Murphy said once. “They are very accomplished, politically savvy women. If they can’t handle being mentioned in the tail end of a political discussion (on Twitter), then they’re in the wrong business.”

And, he said, of the meeting both women attended in August of 2012, to discuss how Elliott would be called out, “That was a conspiracy to commit a criminal offence … they were conspiring to go out and publicly shame Mr. Elliott.”

Murphy said the case was akin to “a high school spat, except it’s adults on the Internet”, and said it is astonishing that the court should be acting as referee in an online political debate.

“If anybody was being criminally harassed in this case,” Murphy told the judge, “it was my client, it was Mr. Elliott.”

That Reilly, who was anonymous on Twitter and who directed her own volley of hateful tweets at Elliott, should come “to this court and the police and say she’s being criminally harassed is an abuse of the system.”

Prosecutor Marnie Goldenberg made only the briefest remarks, and refused to provide Postmedia with a copy of her written arguments, saying it wasn’t her practice.

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-ruling-in-twitter-harassment-trial-could-have-enormous-fallout-for-free-speech
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whitebars
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2015 06:56 am
People have started petitions to stop him from going to jail. This is wrong. this man needs to pay for his actions.
engineer
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2015 10:42 am
@whitebars,
Aren't you the troll who was pretending to be an elementary teacher victimized by a child?
Baldimo
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2015 12:14 pm
@whitebars,
I'm sure there will be similar events here in the US. It already happens on several different levels. There is at least one person here on a2k who was talking about public shaming someone else on the site and reporting things to their employer so that they could get them fired. The next step after that is to get them thrown in jail for what they say, all based off of someone's personal views on subjects.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2015 01:25 pm
@Baldimo,
Yep, we do not value freedom of ideas, and the club is considered the right tool for every "problem". We have largely lost the ability to solve problems through our own negligence.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2015 05:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
Target is getting a lot of online **** for selling a t-shirt to women that says simply "trophy". The claim is that this is offensive and that Target needs to be shamed into not selling it. The idea that people who dont like it could simply choose to not buy it goes no where, because this is all about thin skinned bullies who are sure that they have some cosmically ordained right to tell the rest of us what we can and cannot do.

****. THEM!

No wonder we cant get anything done anymore, so many people have no sense of humor and spend most of their time consumed in trivial power games.
whitebars
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 02:20 am
@engineer,
You are a misogynist. Do you really think this man is innocent?
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whitebars
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 02:21 am
@Baldimo,
Her personal views are right! Men should not be allowed to harrass women!
whitebars
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 02:22 am
@hawkeye10,
You are a rapist!
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 02:37 am
@whitebars,
You are Nonono.
whitebars
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 02:56 am
@izzythepush,
You're the nono. ? Why is it OK that this should be allowed? Sexually harrassing women on the internet is wrong.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 04:41 am
@whitebars,
Piss off troll. You don't give a **** about women.
whitebars
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 04:54 am
@izzythepush,
You have been reported for sexual harassment.
whitebars
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 05:24 am
@whitebars,
The biggest problem with our legal system is not recognizing victims feelings. PTSD is a real problem that affects women who are victims of sexual harassment everywhere. Men should not be allowed to harass women in a way that makes them uncomfortable. Misogynists get away with this everyday thanks to our patriarchy.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 05:58 am
@whitebars,
Comfort is not a right, it is an aspiration for some.

Generally speaking women would be better off if they were made uncomfortable more often.

Your argument fails.
Baldimo
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 08:55 am
@whitebars,
Her personal views have nothing to do with the law. It seems from the reading of the article that she and her friend were involved in harassment of the man.
ehBeth
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 09:31 am
@engineer,
Given this poster's history here and the commentator s/he has chosen, I'd suggest that anyone interested in this case look at a few other sources.

It is an interesting case but Ms. Blatchford is an opinion piece writer, not a simple reporter of facts.
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 09:36 am
@Baldimo,
there is more to it than Ms. Blatchford's angle

there is also more to it than the snippet below

Quote:
The 54-year-old is facing criminal harassment charges for opposing a campaign by activists Steph Guthrie and Heather Reilly in 2012 against a young man who created an online video game allowing players to simulate punching feminist blogger Anita Sarkeesian in the face.


this case ties into Gamergate

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/01/how-to-attack-a-woman-who-works-in-video-games
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 09:47 am
and just released (maybe related?)

https://time.com/3965630/men-attack-women-online-losers/

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0131613

Quote:
Insights into Sexism: Male Status and Performance Moderates Female-Directed Hostile and Amicable Behaviour

Michael M. Kasumovic , Jeffrey H. Kuznekoff

Published: July 15, 2015DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0131613


Quote:
Abstract

Gender inequality and sexist behaviour is prevalent in almost all workplaces and rampant in online environments. Although there is much research dedicated to understanding sexist behaviour, we have almost no insight into what triggers this behaviour and the individuals that initiate it.

Although social constructionist theory argues that sexism is a response towards women entering a male dominated arena, this perspective doesn’t explain why only a subset of males behave in this way.

We argue that a clearer understanding of sexist behaviour can be gained through an evolutionary perspective that considers evolved differences in intra-sexual competition.

We hypothesised that female-initiated disruption of a male hierarchy incites hostile behaviour from poor performing males who stand to lose the most status.

To test this hypothesis, we used an online first-person shooter video game that removes signals of dominance but provides information on gender, individual performance, and skill.

We show that lower-skilled players were more hostile towards a female-voiced teammate, especially when performing poorly. In contrast, lower-skilled players behaved submissively towards a male-voiced player in the identical scenario.

This difference in gender-directed behaviour became more extreme with poorer focal-player performance. We suggest that low-status males increase female-directed hostility to minimize the loss of status as a consequence of hierarchical reconfiguration resulting from the entrance of a woman into the competitive arena.

Higher-skilled players, in contrast, were more positive towards a female relative to a male teammate.

As higher-skilled players have less to fear from hierarchical reorganization, we argue that these males behave more positively in an attempt to support and garner a female player’s attention.

Our results provide the clearest picture of inter-sexual competition to date, highlighting the importance of considering an evolutionary perspective when exploring the factors that affect male hostility towards women.



not sure what I think about this - other than "more research is needed"

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/journal-information
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firefly
 
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Wed 22 Jul, 2015 10:10 am
@izzythepush,
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You are Nonono.

Actually, whitebars reminds me more of Max.
 

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