The media is misreporting this. This misogynist man deserves to go to jail.

...and you also hate French people.

Parrot Ollie, it's easier than thinking up something yourself.

I don't hate the French, they're such a brilliant source of entertainment, (and cheap booze.)

Well, if one is going to try to impersonate a feminist--and particularly a feminist who claims to have a Masters degree in gender studies--it helps if one has an actual, scholarly, in-depth, knowledge of the subject matter that would be consistent with holding such an advanced degree. That's where whitebars really proves he/she is way too dumb to pull this off.

Beyond the incredibly simplistic statement--for someone with alleged advanced academic credentials-- that "feminism is equality" , and beyond muttering about "patriarchy" and labeling other posters "misogynists", as though use of those unelaborated catch-phrases establishes any feminist creds or persona, whitebars offers nothing credible in terms of the feminist identity being alleged. When "she" alleged that mothers are better at parenting--claiming there are statistics to back up this assertion--"she" cited no references or studies to back this up--no alleged statistics were produced--and, in response to Hawkeye's post contradicting "her" assertion, "she" tried to change the subject with an irrelevant comment to Hawkeye, because she was cornered in "her" own falsehood and BS.

Someone with a Masters in gender studies would be considerably more conversant with the literature on gender and parenting than whitebars is displaying--that area has really expanded and come to the fore because of the legalization of gay marriage and the increasing numbers of same sex parents raising children. Gender and parenting is an extremely complex area, and no one with any real knowledge of the field would allege that, beyond their capacity for lactation, that mothers make inherently better parents than fathers.

whitebars is a complete phony, and lacks the smarts to pull off a successful impersonation of this type. As trolls and sockpuppets go, "she's" good at insulting other posters, and being provocative, but it's all without real intellectual substance or purpose that could lead to a meaningful discussion..

I now agree with you that this is likely nononono. Whitebars has even begun to use one of nono's pet phrases about my "shaming tactics" not working on him

An actual fact.

You don't even understand what the vagina means as a symbol to feminists as I debunked you on that rubbish here:

http://able2know.org/topic/285933-3#post-5996777



Feminism is about equality. Do you disagree with that?



Citation and proof needed. I did no such thing.



This is widely agreed upon. N.O.W. has fought for this for decades.



Who else am I? Can I be Elvis and Bigfoot too?

Do you realize how stupid that statement is? You don't even understand how much of a schmuck you sound like.


You really are too dumb to pull this act off...

I cited proof that the vagina is an important symbol in feminist artwork. What about that do you not understand?

You're lobbying baseless claims at me.

Citations and proof are required for credibility. Who? What? Where? When? Quotes, Specific posts. Otherwise all you're saying is just conjecture.

You're the one lacking credibility...nononono

A picture of troll spray does not equal citations, proof, Who? What? Where? When? Quotes, or Specific posts.

So you admit that your claims are baseless? Alright then.

"She" doesn't but we do.

I think Hawkeye might be missing a sock.

Better watch out:

I do not mind being quoted but I do not demand it.

Being called lowbrow by Olive is an endorsement in anybody's book.

That you even hav to remind Olive about this is a crying shame.

I have already explained to you that the title and context of this pic was edited out to make it look like racist, while in fact it was mocking National Front rhetoric about Taubira. Some far right asshole in there had compared Taubira to a monkey, and the Charb cartoon was just reminding the readers of that.

Here is the full, non-edited picture, with the Front National logo on the side and the caption which says: "Blue-Racist Rally", a parody of the name of a coalition of far right parties called the "Rassemblement Bleu Marine"):

http://www.people-bokay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/taubira-en-singe-charlie-hebdo-580x394.jpg

You may think it's not in good taste, but Charlie Hebdo never cared much for good taste. They cared very much for anti-racism though, and they have a stellar track-record on that. Taubira knew and understood that. She sued the FN for comparing her to a monkey, but not Charlie Hebdo. She participated in defense of free speech and in honor of the victims. She also attended the funeral service of one of the Charlie Hebdo victims, Tignous, who was her personal friend. I have proven that with a video link of her eulogy given at that occasion. Here it is again:



You are relaying lies peddled by the extreme right to justify their own racism, and by the extreme left to justify the murder of cartoonists by terrorists. All this because you are blinded by hatred, and to score cheap brownie points on an internet forum.

I have proven this beyond reasonable doubt, but you're not being reasonable, you're being a useful idiot for the far right and terrorists.

Those who don't understand jokes are destined to peddle fascist lies, I guess.


More:
https://ricochet.media/en/292/lost-in-translation-charlie-hebdo-free-speech-and-the-unilingual-left

You are peddling racist lies.

You have tried to whitewash it yes, but I have never accepted your spin. In comedy/satire there are lines one does not cross. Portraying a black person as a monkey is one line. It taps into the same thinking that allowed the slave trade to foster and boosts the extreme right.

It's never a good thing to do, it's always racist regardless of any 'noble' intentions. It's like saying 'I'm not racist but....'

Portraying white people as monkeys/apes is fine. No such negative associations exist.

And your mother smells of elderberries. I fart in your general direction.

Let me ask you 3 questions at this point, Izzy:

1. Do you think it is okay to edit a cartoon (or any text/quote) so as to exclude its caption and part of the drawing in a way that alters its meaning?

2. Do you think that you understand the French political landscape and satirical cartoon culture better than I do?

3. Do you think you understand this particular cartoon and its intent better than the very person who was depicted in it (Christiane Taubira, black French minister of justice and an ardent anti-racist)?

Yes or no answers please.

Given that he is more then willing to throw such charges around, it is amusing when another asshole does the same to him.

These are the reasons I think you're a risk to children. On a thread about a paedophile watching graphic child pornography on a plane, so graphic that witnesses needed counselling, your first response was to talk about computer security. You showed no concern for the children whatsoever, and boasted about your computer security, and how something like that could never happen to you, because of computer security, and no other reason.

You tried to belittle the material the individual was watching claiming it was just artistic Victorian style nudity where the opposite was true. You argue that that's what most child pornography is, innocuous stuff that could have been put up in a gallery twenty years ago. Blaming everything on over zealous policing and a puritanical government.

In any story about rape or abuse your sympathies always lie with the accused, never the victim. Not only that, you attack the character of the victim and belittle the ordeal. You regard viewing child pornography as a victimless crime, deny that anyone makes money out of it, and call for the sentencing of paedophiles to be more lenient, at the same time arguing that the State of Texas should execute a man before examining forensic evidence that could exonerate him.

Your ex wife took out a restraining order against you. And you were thrown out of a park for talking to children whilst carrying a box of kittens. (That's not even a cliché it's a trope)

You wanted to walk down memory lane, so there you go. I don't throw such charges around lightly.